View Full Version : baseboard profile vs wall conponent
ray salmon
2009-06-09, 06:57 PM
this is basically a wall type management issue
but bathrooms almost always have different baseboard than other living areas ussully a vinyl coves
however to accomadate this with wall types you have to really complicate things. I resorted to just a solid profile drawn around the room and around the cabinates which looks great and accurate but then is error prone feature if walls and cabinates get moved and redesigned... when is there were wall type it would just automatically adjust..but then too you all these wall types meshing into each other
which isn't easy to modify either.
any..suggest....
r
twiceroadsfool
2009-06-09, 10:23 PM
Theres a few different ways people are dealing with this issue, but none are totally without consequence:
1. Embedded Wall Sweeps- Theyre native to the wall type, but it means having a LOT of wall types. It also means splitting and configuring wall joins like crazy, where rooms juxtaposed have different bases/moldings, etc.
2. Wall Sweeps- They adjust with the walls, but if the walls run through one another, you have to drag the ends of the sweeps back to only cover the portions inside the right rooms. This often means accidentally ending up with sweeps on top of one another (deleted).
2a. Some of that can be circumvented if the Finishes are seperate walls, since then the sweeps only go the distance of the room. Then you have to figure out how to deal with Door and window frame thicknesses (manually).
3. In Place sweeps- Easiest solution to draw (arguably) but dont update with the walls and items nudging around unless you lock everything. And if you lock everything... ugh. Plus, theyre in place sweeps. All the more reason not to use them, lol.
4. Floor slab edges- Only works if you have a seperate floor in the room, and if it perfectly borders the edge of the room. Otherwise, you may need more than one, but ive used these a few times with varying success.
5. Paint the walls in Elevation, if you dont care about showing the 1/2" or whatever thickness, when theyre cut in section. This is simple if you dont mind not having the Quantities on hand as well...
6. Actually model them OUT of walls. I could see that getting ugly over time, and there is still no gaurantee that they will move with juxtaposed items, unless you associate them...
ray salmon
2009-06-10, 02:26 AM
wow, that's a pretty good answer
will try some of these, the floor idea sounds the best
yes, don't like having to split walls all over the place just to accomidate
guess there is no pure answer to this...
also I noticed that in door opening if the trim is not thicker than the baseboard the BB meets at the wrong place at the door frame not the trim edge... oh well
r
cliff collins
2009-06-10, 03:42 PM
OK--now add in a chair rail, crown moulding, etc.
Now what's the best answer?
We have been placing these in a separate Linked Interior Model,
as wall sweeps, either hosted or in-place, depending upon the wall
they go on.
cheers.............
twiceroadsfool
2009-06-10, 05:23 PM
Chair rails and crown moldings can occur in every one of those options except 5 and 6. ive done chair rails and crown moldings near the ceiling, and still had them as Floor slab edges when there were interior finish floors. Ive also done them embedded in wall types, and ive done them as wall sweeps.
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