Dealing with Graphics visibility

[sifuentes]

As you work in a view you have to change the visibility of many things; object categories, worksets, model graphics style, crop region visibility, etc. If these views are placed on sheets, and you don't change the visibility back for print, many things might not display as expected. I find it tedious to go through the views I have changed to review if visibility and apply view templates where needed, so I was wondering how other people deals with this.

Thanks,

[beegee]

Isn't that what view templates are for ?
But I appreciate VTs don't deal with all graphic aspects. If I need to make a lot of changes , I would duplicate the view, name the original - print ver, name the duplicate work ver, and do all my working on the work version, keeping the print ver intact and placed on the sheet with the correct crop extents, worksets, etc etc.

[hand471037]

I make 'working views'. Simply right-click on the view's name in the project browser, and then click 'dupilcate'. Rename it to 'working site plan' or 'working floor plan'. Then you can make whatever changes you want to this view without worrying about messing up your 'good' view. Granted, this is only when working on the model, and not the annotations over the top, but when you're working on the model it makes for it to be much faster & more convenient, for you can also change the scale and such without worry...

I commonly do this for schedules too. It's really handy for making global changes, for you can turn off 'itimize every instance' and get groups of items, which you can then make global changes to very easily...

Since a change anywhere is a change everywhere, it's no big deal to do this, and actually is a great way to work.

Then, if I know I'm not gonna need it anymore, I throw it away.

Also it helps to sort the Project Browser by Sheet. I have mine set up so that the Project Browser first lists the sheets, and then the view type & the views. That way I always know which views are 'live' and which ones are 'working', and what view is on which sheet. I've found that beyond SD I mostly work within the sheets anyways, I mean I go to the sheet that needs the changes and open the view from there, so this way works pretty naturally to me.

[Dimitri Harvalias]

View templates are ideal for this. The one shortcoming they have is their inability to control Workset visibility.

I am currently working with a 3 person team on a tower and when preparing progress sets I was annoyed to find that someone working on the curtain wall had turned off all other object categories and worksets to do their work. The solution was to create duplicate views, with a WK prefix, when working on views already assigned to a sheet. Visibility settings are changed only on the WK view and that way we know that the plotted output remains consistent.
If anyone else has a better solution please let me know.

Edit: nosed out by Jeffrey with a phone call in the middle of my reply :x

[sifuentes]

Thank you very much.

And as a collateral question; I have notticed that when you drag a view into a sheet, that view sometimes dissapears from under it's category to be found under the sheet name it goes into. But this doesn't happen all the time, sometimes I can see the view name under its category and its sheet. Can you control this somewhere?

[beegee]

And as a collateral question; I have notticed that when you drag a view into a sheet, that view sometimes dissapears from under it's category to be found under the sheet name it goes into. But this doesn't happen all the time, sometimes I can see the view name under its category and its sheet. Can you control this somewhere?
Under Settings . Browser Organisation, you have have the browser view set to show all, or show views not on sheets ( among other options .) If the view disappears from the main browser list when placed on a sheet, you have the latter setting.

[Cathy Hadley]

Hi Carlos,

This is controlled under settings>Browser Organization... If you have not on sheets selected... that is when the view only shows up under the sheet and not under view as well...

CZH