Thank you QAT!!

[patricks]

Well I'm finally working in a real project in 2010. Seems to be going smoothly with hardware acceleration turned off. Still getting used to tool locations, but I must say, I love having the Load Family button available on the QAT so I can load families with one click, even while in mid-command. :mrgreen:

[Munkholm]

I second that ! Been doing a few projects in 2010 allready, and really don´t understand all the fuss over the new UI ;-) Once we get used to it, it really makes more sence, and get us closer to dealines faster :beer:

[trombe]

Well I'm finally working in a real project in 2010. Seems to be going smoothly with hardware acceleration turned off. Still getting used to tool locations, but I must say, I love having the Load Family button available on the QAT so I can load families with one click, even while in mid-command. :mrgreen:

Yo Patricks.
"LF" keyboard shortcut, no need to use the QAT or ribbon.....and faster !
trombe

[patricks]

yeah I'm more of a on-screen button person than I am keyboard shortcuts. I use them, just not as much as other people. Plus I don't have LF set up as a shortcut, and it's not that intuitive anyway (keys too far apart, etc). I have changed things like View Properties from VP to VB in 2009 to make it easier to type. I would probably make Load Family something like FG, keys right next to each other. Doesn't really make much sense, but it's easy to type in.

Oh well, for me it's just as quick and easy to click Load Family on the QAT as it would be to look at the keyboard to type LF.

[dgillespie]

"LO" for me.

Buttons. Sooooo outdated. ;)
I'm just about to the point of not needing the ribbon and QAT. This new interface is much faster now that I'm not looking for buttons. Thanks Autodesk!! Even though this wasn't your intent...

[gaby424]

i eaven modified the basic common shortcuts in order to have 0 space beetwin keys.
copy CC
move MM
properties QQ

etc..

[need4mospd]

Project Browser = ` (<----little key next to 1 and above TAB)
"`" ribbon:"View-Windows-User Interface-Project Browser"
There's 5 or 6 of them in the shortcut file, make sure you find them all!

Even people that don't know any shortcuts want this one. Leave the Project browser undocked for the best results. Easily another 10-15% drawing space.

[patricks]

I changed Move and Copy in 2009 to be just M <spacebar> and C <spacebar>

MM is still mirror for me.

[barrie.sharp]

I work with music software and alot of companies produce their own hardware controllers.

Might be nice if a USB touchscreen ribbon was made. Best of both world then and it frees up all of the screen... Actually, there is a 3D mouse, the space pilot, that does practically that :idea: and it's a 3D mouse! In fact, if anyone has one, does it work well with Revit?

[jeffh]

Actually, there is a 3D mouse, the space pilot, that does practically that :idea: and it's a 3D mouse! In fact, if anyone has one, does it work well with Revit?

These can't be used with Revit. :-(

[aaronrumple]

Actually, there is a 3D mouse, the space pilot...

I've got a SpaceNavigator. Nice for 3D Studio and a perfect paperwight while in Revit with its very heavy metal base.

It works with over 100 aplications including almost all Autodesk applications. http://www.3dconnexion.com/solutions/cad/all_sup_app.php

(...except Revit.)

[barrie.sharp]

LOL, Revit is the most amazing CAD program I've come across and has changed everything about the way I work! It's confounding how many 'little' things it's rubbish at!!!

I have a spacenavigator PE at home which I loved using with sketchup. I can't begin to think why it wouldn't be supported by Revit (along with dual screen). :lol:

[studiodd]

I wished I was able to write my own shortcuts, like in autolisp: Layer Off All - shortcut LOA. Hope that someone will write some example routine in C# some day that we can adjust to our needs. I learned autocad commands 15 years ago, became twice as fast with that shortcut list, but had to stop working at that office when I had the same dream every night: I dreamed I lost normal speech, but could only speek in shortcuts!

Ivan

[Scott D Davis]

I wished I was able to write my own shortcuts, like in autolisp: Layer Off All - shortcut LOA. Hope that someone will write some example routine in C# some day that we can adjust to our needs. I learned autocad commands 15 years ago, became twice as fast with that shortcut list, but had to stop working at that office when I had the same dream every night: I dreamed I lost normal speech, but could only speek in shortcuts!

Ivan

what are some examples of things in Revit that you would need to write shortcuts for? In AutoCAD, it was multiple command items, like Zoom Extents, because this was actually 2 commands...Zoom, then Extents. So I'm looking for multi-command shortcuts that you might need.

[TroyGates]

I wished I was able to write my own shortcuts, like in autolisp: Layer Off All - shortcut LOA. Hope that someone will write some example routine in C# some day that we can adjust to our needs. I learned autocad commands 15 years ago, became twice as fast with that shortcut list, but had to stop working at that office when I had the same dream every night: I dreamed I lost normal speech, but could only speek in shortcuts!

Ivan

I've used AutoHotKey to combine a few keystrokes together for Revit. Its easy to code in, check it out at http://www.autohotkey.com.

[studiodd]

what are some examples of things in Revit that you would need to write shortcuts for? In AutoCAD, it was multiple command items, like Zoom Extents, because this was actually 2 commands...Zoom, then Extents. So I'm looking for multi-command shortcuts that you might need.

- First I would like to make shortcuts that 'sound' like the actual command. That makes shortcuts easier to remember. Examples from acad: loa-layer off all, lfa-layer freeze all, f0-fillet with radius 0, etc.
- Second, since it is not possible to make these kind of shortcuts in revit, I never spent time to 'develop' a shortcut system for it, so I don't have actual examples of something missing. But if I know someone can help me with C# I am willing to develop such a system, because I am sure it will speed up our Revitwork at the office. I am not behind my revit station at the moment, but (from my head) a good example would be commands for drawing walls (arced, filleted, straight, etc.), for example CWF = Create Wall Filleted, or maybe commands for hiding Categories (HWA = Hide Walls, HWI=HideWindows). As I said, I must spent a few days to develop such a shortcut system as a whole.
- Most used commands would get one keystroke, like M=Modify
- I looked at Autohotkey, but don't like the idea of depending on an external program, and the code looked a littlebit clumsy (with delays etc.)

- Not about shortcuts, but in my opinion a real timesaver would be to make the view templates 'bidirectional' and real properties of a view: change a template and all views with that template assingned change likewise.

- Scott, or someone else, do you think that such a shortcut system is possible with the API?

[aaronrumple]

...or maybe commands for hiding Categories (HWA = Hide Walls, HWI=HideWindows). As I said, I must spent a few days to develop such a shortcut system as a whole.
- Most used commands would get one keystroke, like M=Modify
- I looked at Autohotkey, but don't like the idea of depending on an external program, and the code looked a littlebit clumsy (with delays etc.)

- Not about shortcuts, but in my opinion a real timesaver would be to make the view templates 'bidirectional' and real properties of a view: change a template and all views with that template assingned change likewise.


You only need one shortcut for hiding categories. "VH". Select a couple of objects representing the things you would like to hide. Then VH. Or if you like - shorten it to H. The elegance of this is you don't need dozens of shortcut keys to do basically the same thing.

Single shortcut keys can be implemented in Revit, so knock your socks off. However this limits the functionality of a particular key. So if you have M used, you can't have MV in use. Autocad gets around this by always having the enter key at the end, so you really end up with two stroke Shortcuts in AutoCAD no matter what.

All views can be updated in one step using view templates. Just select the views in the browser. Right click and select "Apply Default View Template". It will update everything. See other posts on how this works.

Updating a view temaplte works the same way. Just make a view template and overwrite the old definition.

Dynamic view templates could be an interesting feature, but they could lead to a lot of confusion as well.

[studiodd]

You only need one shortcut for hiding categories. "VH". Select a couple of objects representing the things you would like to hide. Then VH. Or if you like - shorten it to H. The elegance of this is you don't need dozens of shortcut keys to do basically the same thing.
I know, this was just a fast example.


Single shortcut keys can be implemented in Revit, so knock your socks off. However this limits the functionality of a particular key. So if you have M used, you can't have MV in use. Autocad gets around this by always having the enter key at the end, so you really end up with two stroke Shortcuts in AutoCAD no matter what.
I know, and in my opinion this limits the use of shortcuts a lot: it limits the amount of shortcuts you can make that 'sound' like the original command. That's why I prefered the [ENTER] button in acad. But still hoping there is some kind of workaround in Revit, though.

I have attached our acad shortcut list. It was written at OMA (Office for Metropolitan Architecture / Rem Koolhaas), I think 20 years ago, and was widely copied in the Netherlands since then. Note that all off the shortcuts 'sound' like the actual commands. It took some time to learn them, but accelerated work.

[studiodd]

Maybe it is possible to write a program that brings Revit in 'shortcut mode' to achieve something described above?