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yanyan77
2009-08-06, 09:16 PM
I noticed that the cut pattern of the wall sectin looks different in different scale.
but you can not change the cut pattern from draft to model pattern.
so how will you do when you show section in differnt scale?

Dimitri Harvalias
2009-08-06, 09:29 PM
Cut patterns are drafting patterns. They will always plot at the same 'scale'. In other words, a drafting pattern that has lines 1.5mm apart will plot those lines 1.5mm apart regardless of the view scale.
Why the need to show the hatch differently at different scales?

yanyan77
2009-08-06, 09:36 PM
because when the scale is 3/8 in the section, the cut pattern looks fine.
but the scale is changed to 1 1/2 in the detail, the pattern looks too dense.

Dimitri Harvalias
2009-08-06, 10:20 PM
Assuming it is the entire wall cut pattern that you are trying to alter (not the material pattern) you could override the cut pattern setting in the detail view.

yanyan77
2009-08-07, 12:34 PM
Assuming it is the entire wall cut pattern that you are trying to alter (not the material pattern) you could override the cut pattern setting in the detail view.

there are not only one kind of pattern, it is means i have to override each one

BigBadBIM
2009-08-07, 02:20 PM
I noticed that the cut pattern of the wall sectin looks different in different scale.
but you can not change the cut pattern from draft to model pattern.
so how will you do when you show section in differnt scale?

In my opinion this is a big graphical display issue with Revit. I don't understand WHY material cut patterns are the orphan of the Revit .pat world.

What we have done (for now) is create a small and large scale drafting pattern for those patterns. The small looks fine at our most used 1/8" plan scale and looks OK at 1/4" enlarged planes, but the idea is that we will overide in view for sections and details.

Another solution we have kicked around is not having cut patterns for most wall materials. You don't really NEED them at small scale and we were thinking of maybe using a linebased detail component as a "smart" filled region to detail or sections and detail call outs.

FACTORY: Please allow us to use model patterns for material cut patterns. Please.... (major code overhaul issues aside) :)

greg.mcdowell
2009-08-07, 04:13 PM
I too wish for model cut patterns but for a different reason. I'd like to be able to show masonry joint lines in section without resorting to detail components.

In AutoCAD I would use a hatch pattern (standard 8" horizontal for CMU and a custom hatch pattern for brick with a line at 8" and two more at +/- 8/3") for the smaller scale drawings and it worked great. Would like to do the same in Revit.

dbaldacchino
2009-08-07, 06:10 PM
What I'd really like Revit to do is have materials that understand coursing and modularity. Then we won't need to resort to patterns to convey this very important aspect of building. One could then choose to show a pattern, such as in plan, or the real coursing, such as in sections and details, including plan details. So really not only understand coursing vertically, but also horizontally.

BigBadBIM
2009-08-07, 06:44 PM
I too wish for model cut patterns but for a different reason. I'd like to be able to show masonry joint lines in section without resorting to detail components.

In AutoCAD I would use a hatch pattern (standard 8" horizontal for CMU and a custom hatch pattern for brick with a line at 8" and two more at +/- 8/3") for the smaller scale drawings and it worked great. Would like to do the same in Revit.



What I'd really like Revit to do is have materials that understand coursing and modularity. Then we won't need to resort to patterns to convey this very important aspect of building. One could then choose to show a pattern, such as in plan, or the real coursing, such as in sections and details, including plan details. So really not only understand coursing vertically, but also horizontally.

AMEN!!!!!!!!