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Joef
2004-11-08, 07:08 PM
In reality a wall can host a railing (beside a stair for instance). Does Revit allow this ? I am having my doubts, but in the "model it as you would build it" philosophy of Revit I am hoping this is possible. So far I have been unable to select a wall as a host for a railing, but I could be doing something wrong.

Dimitri Harvalias
2004-11-08, 07:54 PM
Generally you wouldn't want the wall to host the railing because it is the floor, ramp or stair that you want the railing to relate to. Draw the railing line and offset it the appropriate distance from the wall so it leaves a space between the wall and the railing

Joef
2004-11-08, 09:08 PM
The railing sits on top of the wall, but I cannot get the wall to host the railing. Even when I set the railing to be hosted by the stair it still does not slope. Very frustrating. I created a sloping workplane but that is not allowed in railing creation.

Roger Evans
2004-11-08, 09:18 PM
Try a Ramp
Delete Railing One Side
Trim Ramp to wall width & embed place inside wall

Might work

Wes Macaulay
2004-11-08, 09:20 PM
One answer to this is to use a floor object with a slope on it -- define a floor object to be the cap on your wall. Use "Set Host" in the railing tool and you're good to go.

Joef
2004-11-08, 09:45 PM
I was hoping that such a common architectural feature would not require an awkward work around solution.

Joef
2004-11-08, 10:39 PM
I've been trying the ramp method. How do you get the ramp to be the same slope as the stair? There doesn't seem to be a way to give an exact slope figure to the ramp. Only a maximum. If I want the ramp to slope 9" in 12" what figure do I plug into the type? The type asks for 1/x. .75 doesn't work and neither does 9.

Roger Evans
2004-11-08, 10:43 PM
I think you'd be better off with Wes's suggestion for floor hosting the railing & you'd have more control
You could also make ramp/ floor totally transparent for wall capping

beegee
2004-11-08, 10:47 PM
1 in 1.3333. ( 12/9 )

Joef
2004-11-08, 10:50 PM
Thanks, the floor worked just fine. I still wonder why the ramp was so difficult to control.

David Conant
2004-11-09, 03:00 PM
Here is a powerpoint slide I produced to explain this trick for a tips and tricks seminar.

sbrown
2004-11-09, 06:19 PM
Wheres the file?

David Conant
2004-11-09, 07:06 PM
I guess the forum won't accept ppt files. Trying again as a pdf.

Roger Evans
2004-11-09, 07:31 PM
Um.........

Joef
2004-11-09, 07:38 PM
Thanks for the pdf. I have been unable to get the wall to attach to the floor however. I get a "cannot keep wall and target joined " message. Since the wall is angled using the "edit profile", will it really "attach" to the floor or do I instead edit the profile to match the floor?

bclarch
2004-11-09, 07:44 PM
Restore the wall to it's original profile then attach it to the floor.

mark.68887
2004-11-10, 07:03 PM
Sorry to jump in so late, but if there is a stair involved NEXT TO the sloped wall that you want the rail on.

Why not use the stair to host the rail (andthe sketch on top of it) then in your rail properties change the offset for the rails and balusters to be enough to put it on top of the wall.

Thats what we;ve done for all our homes with walls on the sides of stairs....i find it works well and I don't have to play with ramps/sloped floors/roofs to cap the wall.

Hopefully makes sense and helps you out. :D