SFB-Beams after Upgrade 1

[Alan aka cadalot]

We recently designed a structure in CSC Fasttrack using SFB Beams and when the CSC to REVIT program was run it was reported that:-

Warning Type `305SFB197’ needs to be created in Family SFB-Beams’
Warning Type `305SFB259’ needs to be created in Family SFB-Beams’
Warning Type `305SFB218’ needs to be created in Family SFB-Beams’

Slimflor Beams SFB
Serial Size SFB Mass per metre of compound section found under:-
Metric Library \ Structural \ Framing \ Steel ~ SFB-Beams include the sizes:-

356SFB732, 648, 563, 488, 435, 381, 328, 292, 267, 220, 196
305SFB365, 321, 279, 238, 217, 178, 156
254SFB258, 204, 161, 143, 127
203SFB134, 119, 108, 100, 94
152SFB79, 72, 64

This was my first inkling that the upgrade had not updated the Metric Library on the network.

On the copy I’m using at home it had installed the New SFB-Beams under Corus Advance.

Metric Library \ Structural \ Framing \ Steel \ Corus Advance ~ SFB-Beams
Included in Upgrade 1 to RST 2010 include the sizes:~

356SFB707, 624, 539, 464, 411, 358, 305, 270, 244, 220, 196,
305SFB344, 301, 259, 218, 197, 178, 156
254SFB222, 186, 161, 143, 127
203SFB176, 162, 148, 134, 119, 108, 100, 94
152SFB93, 86, 79, 72, 64

My question is, some of the sections are significantly different between the two versions now installed in my Metric Library, are the sections under Steel actually available from anywhere?

If not why does the Upgrade not remove the SFB-Beams family under Steel when it adds the SFB-Beams Family under Corus Advance?

Any takers……..

[david.bartliff]

Alan,
Yes it is frustrating that Autodesk seem to prefer putting new files in different locations rather than just correcting the original one, and that causes problems for the Fastrak import in Revit - we just look for the family in the Steel folder, not the Corus one.
Autodesk seem to have been confused by the use of 20mm and 15mm thick plates - we have allowed for both in Fastrak for historical reasons, but I think Corus only have the 15mm range on their web site now.
Also it would be really helpful in the future if you could contact CSC Support with problems like this - the first I knew about it was your post.

[Alan aka cadalot]

Hi David

My posting was more about the two versions with different content rather than the Fasttrack error message when not finding the sections in the file. As you will see from the time of the posting it was after business hours so it was not possible to contact CSC Support on this matter.

It appears that the upgrade 1 did not upgrade the Metric Library on our network so the version under Corus Advanced was not there anyway..

I have been in contact with CSC Support today to try and find out more and resolve this matter. I've also done quite a lot of reading up and invesigations on SFB Beams.

Regards

Alan

[Alan aka cadalot]

Please find attached 3 files

SFB-Beams Corus Advance.txt ~ backup of SFB-Beams from the Corus Advance folder
SFB-Beams Steel.txt ~ backup of SFB-Beams from the Steel folder
SFB-Beams.txt ~ A Combination of the two SFB-Beams.txt files.

As the Corus Advance beams are only based on a 15mm plate and there has been some minor modifications to the basic section sizes between these two files, where the same serial size existed in both files the properties of the Corus Advance has been used in my merged file.

However I have not checked the properties of the ~ SFB-Beams under Steel folder with 20 and 25mm plates which needs updating, I have just merged the two files provided by Autodesk together.

CSC Fastrak looks for the family in the Steel folder, so that is where I've placed my new merged SFB-Beams.txt file

I'm hoping that next upgrade or version that the Factory will correct the sections above 15mm plate and place a combined file in one location where Analytical Software looks for it.

In the mean time Enjoy.....