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scott.latch
2009-10-01, 02:14 PM
I was going to edit my original post about the release of Update 2, but it has been closed.

Anyway. I wanted to add to my comment about the upcoming functionality enhancements that will be available to Subscription customers in the near future. All of the fixes that are in Updates 1 & 2 will be included in the functionality enhancement release, so if you need to update a large number of seats it may be best to wait until it is released unless there is a fix that you absolutly must have.

wmullett
2009-10-01, 02:49 PM
Scott, your SP-2 link is bad.

scott.latch
2009-10-01, 02:52 PM
Scott, your SP-2 link is bad.

I'm not seeing a problem. What happens when you click on the link?

wmullett
2009-10-01, 03:19 PM
First time several people tried, the page would not load at all. That does now but now if you click on the Updates... Revit arch 2010 - it just brings you back to the same page you are on.

Steve_Stafford
2009-10-01, 03:56 PM
I've added your comment to your post Scott. The link works for me in several browsers.

TroyGates
2009-10-01, 04:33 PM
Link works for me as well, already loaded the update onto all of our 2010 installations last night. Watching today for any hiccups we might experience.

cliff collins
2009-10-01, 04:46 PM
Ditto Troy

cheers

scott.latch
2009-10-01, 05:23 PM
First time several people tried, the page would not load at all. That does now but now if you click on the Updates... Revit arch 2010 - it just brings you back to the same page you are on.

What Browser are you using? Do you have another computer you can try?

wmullett
2009-10-01, 05:30 PM
Scott... myself and others who told me were having problems were able to get it through:
http://bimboom.blogspot.com/2009/09/revit-architecture-2010-update-2-just.html

This is the page that in mozilla seems to just link you back to if you pick the Updates... Revit arch 2010:
http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/index?siteID=123112&id=2334435&linkID=9273944#section1
If that is supposed to start the download, it maybe that macafee just doesn't allow it.

Thanks

trombe
2009-10-01, 11:51 PM
Scott... myself and others who told me were having problems were able to get it through:
http://bimboom.blogspot.com/2009/09/revit-architecture-2010-update-2-just.html

This is the page that in mozilla seems to just link you back to if you pick the Updates... Revit arch 2010:
http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/index?siteID=123112&id=2334435&linkID=9273944#section1
If that is supposed to start the download, it maybe that macafee just doesn't allow it.

Thanks

WMullet.
I run Firefox (currently 3.5.2) and McAfee IS and had no trouble getting the download.
Have you tried via subscription ?
regards
trombe

Mike Hardy-Brown
2009-10-02, 06:19 AM
I was going to edit my original post about the release of Update 2, but it has been closed.

Anyway. I wanted to add to my comment about the upcoming functionality enhancements that will be available to Subscription customers in the near future. All of the fixes that are in Updates 1 & 2 will be included in the functionality enhancement release, so if you need to update a large number of seats it may be best to wait until it is released unless there is a fix that you absolutly must have.

Scott, let us have a bit of info about the subscription stuff you are talking about,
I wont tell. ;)

Sounds like you have added a few nice extras. :beer:

barathd
2009-10-02, 05:49 PM
Scott:

Near future - prior to AU? Any vague idea when?

Regards

Dick Barath

Kevin Janik
2009-10-02, 07:14 PM
What is the effect of this Update on work? Is Revit really more stable and have any of the Revit 2010 issues with changing views speed and ribbon speed and ... better?

Kevin

aaronrumple
2009-10-02, 08:38 PM
What is the effect of this Update on work? Is Revit really more stable and have any of the Revit 2010 issues with changing views speed and ribbon speed and ... better?

Kevin

I've been running it. Two crashes so far. One with save option - one without. Same as we have been having before. Click. And then Revit vanishes from screen.

Can't say I've noticed any speed improvement. We haven't turned it lose on the rest of the office.

Kevin Janik
2009-10-02, 09:28 PM
Sounds not so promising. We are pretty far into this release and the major stuff still seems to be plaguing the product with the ribbon running.

Kevin

brethomp
2009-10-06, 03:00 PM
...so if you need to update a large number of seats it may be best to wait until it is released unless there is a fix that you absolutly must have.
Scott,

Could you please give us a hint as to when this "functionality enhancements" release will be available? I'm in the situation where I have a large number of seats to update, and would like to take your advice and wait to do it only once. But, UR2 does seem to fix some bugs that are causing daily crashes with my employees.

So to help me decide between 2 installs or 1 install, could you give an estimate of how long we need to wait for the release? Is it:
A. Hours.
B. Days.
C. Weeks.
D. Months.

m.thomas
2009-10-07, 11:34 AM
or
E - Years


sorry couldn't resist !!

Andre Baros
2009-10-07, 02:49 PM
SP2 breaks the Labs Solar Radiation Tool... see the autodesk.labs blog for details.

barathd
2009-10-07, 05:22 PM
or
E - Years


sorry couldn't resist !!
Faith my man - I believe (or do I).

aaronrumple
2009-10-08, 01:40 PM
or
E - Years


sorry couldn't resist !!

F - Decades
(...almost there with the update to the elevation symbol.)

patricks
2009-10-08, 05:41 PM
F - Decades
(...almost there with the update to the elevation symbol.)

eh? Elevation symbol update? I not see this that you speak of :Oops:

ahower
2009-10-08, 05:46 PM
Maybe he just thinks the elev. symbol is ugly?

hehe

patricks
2009-10-08, 05:55 PM
oh yeah, almost a decade since Revit first came out and not once has the elevation symbol changed. :roll:

Scott D Davis
2009-10-08, 07:25 PM
oh yeah, almost a decade since Revit first came out and not once has the elevation symbol changed. :roll:

We actually have decided to never change it just to see Aaron's reaction year after year.....it's the ARET: Aaron Rumple Elevation Tag initiative. :lol:

aaronrumple
2009-10-08, 09:03 PM
We actually have decided to never change it just to see Aaron's reaction year after year.....it's the ARET: Aaron Rumple Elevation Tag initiative. :lol:

Glad to help.

cliff collins
2009-10-08, 09:35 PM
Let's see, we have probably finished about 200 projects in Revit since we first began,
all with the "terrible" square and round elevation tags, and the buildings actually got built,
the owners loved them, and they hired us back, so wer'e gonna use that dang elevation tag
again!

Point is, there are MUCH more important things which need to be changed in Revit,
like better stair tools, a tilt-wall tool, better site tools, etc.

cheers........

aaronrumple
2009-10-08, 10:06 PM
Point is, there are MUCH more important things which need to be changed in Revit,
like better stair tools, a tilt-wall tool, better site tools, etc.



You're right - and still waiting on all of those you mention in addition to a plain 'ol text editor at least as good as note pad.

barathd
2009-10-08, 10:10 PM
G. The after life.

Mike Lister
2009-10-09, 10:17 AM
Still having several crashes, approx two a day. (using it for 7 hours a day or so). Not sure what SP2 has done tbh.

clog boy
2009-10-09, 11:27 AM
We don't use those symbols... one could make a tagged detail component that's otherwise completely unreferenced, or make for consistent views.

It's funny though that they can't appear to tackle that like the Section symbol. Matter of fact, what's the harm in using sections as if they were elevation views?

luigi
2009-10-09, 01:03 PM
But at least now you can reference to a different elevation? That is some change....right?
CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN! Revit for the Nobel Peace prize!

We actually have decided to never change it just to see Aaron's reaction year after year.....it's the ARET: Aaron Rumple Elevation Tag initiative. :lol:

DonWonnSSUSA
2009-10-09, 01:08 PM
Still having several crashes, approx two a day. (using it for 7 hours a day or so). Not sure what SP2 has done tbh.

Make sure you are updating with the right file. If you are running Suite then SP2 has not been released for it yet, only for the Revit MEP package, not Revit Suite. We had the same problem with 2009. Guys in the back would update their system, running suite, with the plain package and it would cause problems.

patricks
2009-10-09, 06:30 PM
I had to install SP2 because it fixed the issue with roof fascias on the edges of joined roofs would only extend the length of the original un-joined roof. They wouldn't go the entire eave length of the joined roof. SP2 fixed that, thank goodness.

myBIMhero
2009-10-13, 11:06 PM
Anyway. I wanted to add to my comment about the upcoming functionality enhancements that will be available to Subscription customers in the near future. All of the fixes that are in Updates 1 & 2 will be included in the functionality enhancement release, so if you need to update a large number of seats it may be best to wait until it is released unless there is a fix that you absolutly must have.

We did have an inability to save to central becuas Revit said the local file was outdated. We make a local copy every time you open a file using the Make Revit Local Copy from Dave Baldacchino (http://forums.augi.com/private.php?do=showpm&pmid=122119) - awesome by the way. I am hoping this update will take care of that. Otherwise we have not been having all the crash problems I been hearing about. I have 3G RAM on a Xeon 2.4Ghz.

Always wanting to be updated, I wonder if this update will cause more problems or is it worth it?

1) Does Update 2 include the dll hotfix for wall modifications? I havent had any problems with walls, when i tried the hotfix, it made everything worse - then I was crashing. I undid the hotfix and all is fine.

2) You mention there is a third update coming. Is there a problem with Update 2 that I should wait? Any idea of a timeframe. I only have 13 machines to update but would hate to have to do that in a week or 2 all over again.


Thanks for the help

Steve_Stafford
2009-10-14, 01:05 AM
Updates have always been cumulative, meaning including previous patches/fixes etc.

The next update is rumored to include some new features. If it is a major process to deploy the software in your firm and none of the update items really match issues you are experiencing then you could opt to wait a bit more.

Wes Macaulay
2009-10-15, 12:38 AM
I think the functionality in question is a subscription-only release and I thought it was all the fixes of SP2 plus new functionality -- but not any fixes beyond SP2. If it is indeed going to have fixes that are beyond SP2 then it is like an SP3. But whatever: I installed SP2 anyway!

jpolding
2009-10-15, 06:06 PM
I installed SP2 on my machine and now my IES Toolbar is not working, as well as the radiance plugin from Labs. I'm getting an ActiveX error. Did the bug-patch switch something in the video that would cause this?

narlee
2009-10-15, 10:54 PM
Make sure you are updating with the right file. If you are running Suite then SP2 has not been released for it yet, only for the Revit MEP package, not Revit Suite. We had the same problem with 2009. Guys in the back would update their system, running suite, with the plain package and it would cause problems.

What are you referring to?/Am I understanding you right? According to the ADesk Revit download page, the update 2 is for both Revit & Suite...

timothy.bungert
2009-10-20, 06:41 PM
first little bit of news about the upcoming Revit Advantage packages for Subscription customers:

http://bimboom.blogspot.com/2009/10/revit-advantage-packs-about-to-be.html

TroyGates
2009-10-20, 06:44 PM
Here's another source:

http://autodesk-revit.blogspot.com/2009/10/revit-aec-blogger-day-revit-2010-subs.html

ron.sanpedro
2009-10-20, 07:07 PM
So if Revit can not, for technical reasons, save back to old versions, and new functionality requires a new version, as that has always been the excuse given for no saving back, then how do you do a mid stream functionality addition without breaking the ability for other (non subscription) users to work? Will there now be a 2010.5 file format, and we can't save as to the 2010 format that our non Subscription consultant can use? Or is the "functionality" improvement not about content, just (gawd forbid) UI and speed improvements? Growing ever more curious to see just what this mythical beast really is. ;)

Gordon

DaveP
2009-10-20, 07:42 PM
That's the difference between a point release and a major Version.
Major Versions include changes to the back-end database as well as new functionality and thus cannot be "Saved Back".
Point releases such as this are either exposing functions that were already in other verticals (like the Structural features) or they include "add-ins" such as a Shortcut Editor.

Things like a Shortcut Editor are not going to affect any Model Elements in the database, whereas something like Dependant Views would require a lot of effort to be backward compatible.

I'd rather put up with the short-term inconvenience of coordinating a version upgrade than the long-term pain of permanent patches like Proxy Objects

Wes Macaulay
2009-10-20, 08:02 PM
Holy cow! Wall framing? That's a VERY big chunk o' software... and a very big release item 8)

ron.sanpedro
2009-10-20, 08:09 PM
That's the difference between a point release and a major Version.
Major Versions include changes to the back-end database as well as new functionality and thus cannot be "Saved Back".
Point releases such as this are either exposing functions that were already in other verticals (like the Structural features) or they include "add-ins" such as a Shortcut Editor.

Things like a Shortcut Editor are not going to affect any Model Elements in the database, whereas something like Dependant Views would require a lot of effort to be backward compatible.

I'd rather put up with the short-term inconvenience of coordinating a version upgrade than the long-term pain of permanent patches like Proxy Objects

Hmm, if some of those structural items actually make it into RAC this will be SWEET. And if the Sortcut Editor lets us deal with ALL functions, not just the ones Autodesk THINKS we need, that also would be nice. And maybe editing of the QAT? Not nearly as excited as I am to play with that new Magic Mouse, but still looking forward to the new toys!

Gordon

P.s. Please, NEVER say "P.O." here again! It makes me have very traumatic flashbacks of being a CAD Manager. Now I need a drink! ;)

Phillip_Miller
2009-10-20, 08:36 PM
Holy cow! Wall framing? That's a VERY big chunk o' software... and a very big release item 8)

Thats what I thought. Also is it true we get access to Autodesk Image Modeler as well :). Man I can't wait to get my hands on that.

scott.latch
2009-10-20, 09:03 PM
The Subscription Release Pack (SRP) for Revit will not be like past point releases. It will not be a full install of the product. Instead, the install will be similar to the Update releases. In fact, it will include the fixes in Updates 1 & 2. The only way to know if the SRP has been installed is by checking the build number in the about box.

Also note, this release will not have a file format change.

scott.latch
2009-10-20, 09:04 PM
Thats what I thought. Also is it true we get access to Autodesk Image Modeler as well :). Man I can't wait to get my hands on that.

Yes. It includes Image Modeler.

Phillip_Miller
2009-10-20, 09:22 PM
Yes. It includes Image Modeler.

Fantastic. Scott can you tell us if we have any access through the API to any of the timber framing module?

Cheers

Phillip

scott.latch
2009-10-20, 09:26 PM
Fantastic. Scott can you tell us if we have any access through the API to any of the timber framing module?

The framing module is an external add-in using the Revit API. It does not have it's own API.

Phillip_Miller
2009-10-20, 09:35 PM
The framing module is an external add-in using the Revit API. It does not have it's own API.

Thanks for answering that question. One more.

Once you have run the Framing Module, does it store that info on that will as Parameters? If so that would be very cool as I could then work with them using our API program to calculate correct sizes etc for NZ Conditions.

http://www.kiwicodes.co.nz/SamplePages/Lintels.aspx

Thanks for your time. I can't wait untill it has been uploaded to subscription centre.

Cheers

Phillip Miller
Kiwi Codes Solutions Ltd

scott.latch
2009-10-20, 10:36 PM
Phillip,

The Framing utility basically models the framing members based on wall dimensions and openings. At this time, they do not change if the opening moves or the wall changes.

BTW...The tools you have created look great.

iankids
2009-10-21, 12:22 AM
Congrats to AutoDesk & the Factory in particular.

As with many others here, I can't wait to get my hands on some of the new goodies.

Thanks

Ian

Danny Polkinhorn
2009-10-21, 01:51 AM
Also is it true we get access to Autodesk Image Modeler as well :). Man I can't wait to get my hands on that.
I already have access to Image Modeler and some other new apps on my Subscription Downloads page. Might want to check your subscription site as I'm not sure what you have available in NZ.

HTH,

Phillip_Miller
2009-10-21, 02:08 AM
I already have access to Image Modeler and some other new apps on my Subscription Downloads page. Might want to check your subscription site as I'm not sure what you have available in NZ.

HTH,

Hi Danny. Just looked and they are not there yet. Probably a good thing as I need to get some drawings done today :)

seandburke
2009-10-21, 05:51 AM
Yes. It includes Image Modeler.
Sweet!
Hadn't seen that info anywhere else. So, how long do we have to wait? The suspense is painful.

TroyGates
2009-10-21, 03:29 PM
I heard the update is coming out on the 22nd, tomorrow.

TroyGates
2009-10-21, 06:37 PM
I heard the update is coming out on the 22nd, tomorrow.

Well the rumor I was told was wrong, the update is out now. Go to the subscription center to download.

ron.sanpedro
2009-10-21, 07:01 PM
The Feature Summary doesn't specifically say it, but I assume this should be treated as a different build from a "team in a workset enabled model" standpoint, i.e. everyone needs to be on this build. But what about consultants? Will things like beam coping cause grief for an MEP consultant who is in WU2 and linking our model? I know some folks have argued for the same build for EVERYONE, not just everyone worksharing in the model, and this being subscription only makes that a little harder thing to manage.
Just hoping for some guidance from Autodesk here, so as to avoid glee at finally having that Structural tab (Woot!) and misery on the part of consultants not on subscription or slower to upgrade. For that matter it would be good to have a difinitive answer on the issue of build number and linked files.

That said, looking forward to the new features!

Thanks Factory,
Gordon

TroyGates
2009-10-21, 07:05 PM
Also note, this release will not have a file format change.

I think this means you can work with existing 2010 installs without subscription pack.

Munkholm
2009-10-21, 07:45 PM
waiting for the downloads to complete :-) CanĀ“t hardly wait to get my fingers on these new tools :beer:

gwnelson
2009-10-21, 07:48 PM
Image Modeler not 64 bit. :cry:

TroyGates
2009-10-21, 07:53 PM
Looking at the Model Review software, nice of Autodesk to purchase it from Avatech and give it to us as part of our subscription. It will be helpful for BIM Managers.

kyle.bernhardt
2009-10-21, 08:21 PM
Looking at the Model Review software, nice of Autodesk to purchase it from Avatech and give it to us as part of our subscription. It will be helpful for BIM Managers.

Troy,
Glad you picked up on this inclusion. I was PM behind this part of the Subscription Advantage Pack, so I'll be posting a separate feedback thread on it sometime tonight (assuming my 6-week old decides to cooperate).

Cheers,
Kyle

ron.sanpedro
2009-10-21, 08:24 PM
I think this means you can work with existing 2010 installs without subscription pack.

Agreed, both WU2 and SRP will open the same file. But does worksharing on a project need SRP across the team, or are there no "bugs" being fixed and therefor no potential for a WU2 team member to reintroduce a problem that an SRP team member already eliminated. And I have seen numerous suggestions here at AUGI and other places that not only should everyone on the Architect's project team be on the same build, but all consultants who link the model need to be on the same build. Or who provide a model that we link. I am hoping the Factory can clarify if that is indeed true given that the SRP is fundamentally different from a Web Update, and in general with regards to WU builds also.
Given that we just spent a ton of time getting everyone on WU2, and will also be spending a lot of time getting the rest of the office on Windows 7 and 64 bit, I would love to know if I have the option of giving just one person per team the SRP build (likely the Job Captain who is already on Windows 7 and 64 bit), and catching up with everyone else afterwards?

Best,
Gordon

scott.latch
2009-10-21, 08:40 PM
Working in a mixed environment (Update 2 & SRP), sould not cause any problems with worksharing.

ron.sanpedro
2009-10-21, 08:57 PM
Working in a mixed environment (Update 2 & SRP), sould not cause any problems with worksharing.

Thanks Scott! Exactly what I hoped to hear. I infer that SRP includes WU2, so that we can apply SRP to a WU1 install with no problems, and also that worksharing in a WU1 & SRP environment WOULD be an issue?

Also, any chance you could clarify the WU build question? Honestly it seems to be only recently that I keep seeing the "Everyone on the same build" advice. For years it has been "Everyone Worksharing a file on the same build". There are so many subtleties, like perhaps link files on different builds are fine, but what about linked files for Copy/Monitor? Is there a build implication there, given that it falls functionally somewhat between a simple Link and full Worksharing? (Yeah, this paragraph really should be a new thread.)

Thanks!
Gordon

ahauck
2009-10-21, 09:09 PM
Hi Gordon.

SRP includes Update Release 2.

Cheers,
Anthony

Anthony Hauck
BIM Design Product Line Manager

ahauck
2009-10-21, 09:14 PM
Thanks Scott! Exactly what I hoped to hear. I infer that SRP includes WU2, so that we can apply SRP to a WU1 install with no problems, and also that worksharing in a WU1 & SRP environment WOULD be an issue?

Also, any chance you could clarify the WU build question? Honestly it seems to be only recently that I keep seeing the "Everyone on the same build" advice. For years it has been "Everyone Worksharing a file on the same build". There are so many subtleties, like perhaps link files on different builds are fine, but what about linked files for Copy/Monitor? Is there a build implication there, given that it falls functionally somewhat between a simple Link and full Worksharing? (Yeah, this paragraph really should be a new thread.)

Thanks!
Gordon

Hi Gordon.

We don't anticipate any problems tied to using Update Release 2 and SRP side by side because of the nature of the changes in SRP. If you do encounter issues, please include in the support filing which of the Revit installs was affected.

Thanks,
Anthony

Wes Macaulay
2009-10-21, 09:29 PM
Now that I'm fiddling with the KB shortcut editor...

some commands aren't broken out properly (send to front / send to back for example) so it's a little hard to figure out which command you're actually shortcutting ;-)
where are the shortcuts being stored now? The TXT file in the program directory doesn't get updated any more, and I can't an XML or TXT file in the usual places under App Data > All Users or App Data > User
the utility doesn't show conflicting shortcuts, but you can list the shortcuts out in alphabetical order, so you can find conflicts yourself

david.kingham
2009-10-21, 09:51 PM
I found the xml here Wes C:\Users\dkingham\AppData\Local\Autodesk\Revit\Autodesk Revit Architecture 2010 (on vista)

There's a log file in there as well that shows duplicates.

My problem is I can't remove shortcuts, the remove button is grayed out, now I have to edit the xml ughh

Wes Macaulay
2009-10-21, 10:02 PM
Ah yes -- Local Settings -- there it is. So using the Subscription Pack requires you to use their editor to put in your shortcuts... good to know as that took a little while to get that all set up.

Kevin Janik
2009-10-21, 10:18 PM
Their xml file also gives you alot of underlying information like CommandId.

Kevin

<ShortcutItem CommandName="Wall" CommandId="ID_OBJECTS_WALL" Shortcuts="WA" Paths="Home>Build; Structure>Structure" />

Kevin

scott.latch
2009-10-21, 10:23 PM
My problem is I can't remove shortcuts, the remove button is grayed out, now I have to edit the xml ughh

David,

You need to click on the command and then the shortcut to enable the remove button. This allows the user to select the shortcut to delete if they have multiple shortcuts.

iankids
2009-10-21, 10:40 PM
Wood Framing Walls:

I will preface my comments by saying that I have had about an hour or so using the wood framing walls extension.

For me, at the moment, it seems a have the odd glitch or two.

For the test run of the extension, I chose a simple timber framed external wall with a core thickness of 90mm (timber stud) clad externally with Hebel power panel (75mm) and lined internally with plasterboard (10mm). Wall total thickness 175mm

Having selected the wall and the ran the Wood Framing Extension, the first thing I noticed was that the generated thickness of the core (and therefore the ultimate framing) was 175mm - the total wall thickness - not the 90mm core thickness as set up in the wall system family. This nominated thickness was grayed out and unable to be altered.

Once the wal is generated, you can alter the size of stud by selecting all instance and the manually adjusting it in the element properties. The resizing however still has the center line of the stud located on the center line of the wall wall rather that the center line of the core. When I tried to move it an error message appeared saying "Unable to keep elements joined" - probably the joining of the studs and plates.

Overall, will be a good tool once the thickness issue is sorted. (assuming of course that it is not simply a user error!!)

Cheers,

Ian

Windows7 64bit 8 gb ram

hdjohnson
2009-10-21, 10:46 PM
I tried the wood framing walls, but I just get the following message:

You need to load Wood materials to the project.

What does this mean?

Howard

david.kingham
2009-10-21, 10:52 PM
David,

You need to click on the command and then the shortcut to enable the remove button. This allows the user to select the shortcut to delete if they have multiple shortcuts.

Thanks Scott, that's a bit obscure but makes sense now

aspy
2009-10-22, 02:07 AM
I tried the wood framing walls, but I just get the following message:

You need to load Wood materials to the project.

What does this mean?

Howard

Same problem, I cant get the framing tool to work, What does it mean by 'You need to load Wood materials to the project'

Thanks

mbalsom
2009-10-22, 02:18 AM
Go to Extensions Manager / Content Generator /Materials then open in tree to right,click Timber, then then check box for wood then click OK.
Then it all comes good.


Mark

DoTheBIM
2009-10-22, 06:06 PM
...has the center line of the stud located on the center line of the wall wall rather that the center line of the core.... I haven't had the chance to load it up and try it for myself, but... Sounds like some techniques were taken from MWF. One of the many reasons I choose not to explore that product further. Our panel program places wall members in relation to a "drawn edge" with offsets according to materials defined. For it work programmatically, I would think Revit would need 2 more "levels" of objects under the wall family. One for Wall Panel definition, and one for piece definitions within the wall panel within the wall family. With any luck I can have it loaded by the end of the day to see what its all about.

Kevin Janik
2009-10-22, 06:27 PM
Regarding shortcut keys, I am getting a bunch of errors when loading the standard keyboardshortcut.txt file with all the shortcut keys assigned. I did that to see what are new shortcut keys. I think some of them are not new but the keyboard shortcut keys added functionality is not working exactly correct. Below are all the errors of those items it says it can not assign noted in the log file.

Any ideas?

Path "Home-Structure-Beam-Beam" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Home-Structure-Beam-Beam System" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Home-Structure-Brace" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Home-Structure-Foundation-Wall Foundation" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Home-Structure-Foundation-Isolated Foundation" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Home-Structure-Foundation-Foundation Slab" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Annotate-Detail-Symbol" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Modify-Edit-Split" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Modify-Edit Geometry-Openings-Opening on Face" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Modify-Edit Geometry-Openings-Wall Opening" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Modify-Edit Geometry-Openings-Vertical Opening" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Modify-Edit Geometry-Openings-Shaft Opening" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Modify-Edit Geometry-Openings-Dormer Opening" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Modify-Edit-Split" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Properties-Category and Parameters" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Properties-Types" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Editor-Load into Project" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Modify-Edit-Split" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Properties-Category and Parameters" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Properties-Types" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Editor-Load into Project" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Modify-Edit-Split" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Properties-Category and Parameters" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Properties-Types" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Editor-Load into Project" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Modify-Edit-Split" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Properties-Category and Parameters" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Properties-Types" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Editor-Load into Project" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Modify-Edit-Split" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Rebar Shape Properties-Rebar Shape Parameters" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Rebar Shape Properties-Allowable Bar Types" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Rebar Shape Editor-Shape Status" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Rebar Shape Editor-Load into Project" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Modify-Edit-Split" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Properties-Category and Parameters" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Properties-Types" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Editor-Load into Project" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Modify-Edit-Split" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Conceptual Mass-Family Properties-Category and Parameters" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Conceptual Mass-Family Properties-Types" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Conceptual Mass-Family Editor-Load into Project" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Modify-Edit-Split" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Properties-Category and Parameters" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Properties-Types" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Editor-Load into Project" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Isolate Element" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Move to project" doesn't have corresponding command.

Kevin

iankids
2009-10-22, 06:50 PM
Regarding shortcut keys, I am getting a bunch of errors when loading the standard keyboardshortcut.txt file with all the shortcut keys assigned. I did that to see what are new shortcut keys. I think some of them are not new but the keyboard shortcut keys added functionality is not working exactly correct. Below are all the errors of those items it says it can not assign noted in the log file.

Any ideas?

Path "Home-Structure-Beam-Beam" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Home-Structure-Beam-Beam System" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Home-Structure-Brace" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Home-Structure-Foundation-Wall Foundation" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Home-Structure-Foundation-Isolated Foundation" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Home-Structure-Foundation-Foundation Slab" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Annotate-Detail-Symbol" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Modify-Edit-Split" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Modify-Edit Geometry-Openings-Opening on Face" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Modify-Edit Geometry-Openings-Wall Opening" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Modify-Edit Geometry-Openings-Vertical Opening" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Modify-Edit Geometry-Openings-Shaft Opening" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Modify-Edit Geometry-Openings-Dormer Opening" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Modify-Edit-Split" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Properties-Category and Parameters" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Properties-Types" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Editor-Load into Project" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Modify-Edit-Split" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Properties-Category and Parameters" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Properties-Types" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Editor-Load into Project" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Modify-Edit-Split" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Properties-Category and Parameters" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Properties-Types" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Editor-Load into Project" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Modify-Edit-Split" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Properties-Category and Parameters" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Properties-Types" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Editor-Load into Project" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Modify-Edit-Split" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Rebar Shape Properties-Rebar Shape Parameters" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Rebar Shape Properties-Allowable Bar Types" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Rebar Shape Editor-Shape Status" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Rebar Shape Editor-Load into Project" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Modify-Edit-Split" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Properties-Category and Parameters" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Properties-Types" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Editor-Load into Project" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Modify-Edit-Split" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Conceptual Mass-Family Properties-Category and Parameters" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Conceptual Mass-Family Properties-Types" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Conceptual Mass-Family Editor-Load into Project" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Modify-Edit-Split" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Properties-Category and Parameters" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Properties-Types" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Family Editor-Family Editor-Load into Project" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Isolate Element" doesn't have corresponding command.
Path "Move to project" doesn't have corresponding command.

Kevin

Hi Kevin,

The keyboard shortcut file is no longer a .txt file and is now a .xml file. Whilst one could edit it separately, it is simpler to edit it directly in revit. View Tab - User Interface - Keyboard Shortcuts.

Ian

Kevin Janik
2009-10-22, 06:59 PM
Ian,

Thanks!

I understand that but you can import your shortcut keys in from an existing .txt file and as it loads it creates a log file of those shortcuts that have problems or are duplicates. I would like to know since I used the Revit 2010 shortcut standard file, why those did not get assigned and it notes there is no command for them even though Autodesk put them in the standard shortcuts file.

Kevin

Kevin Janik
2009-11-09, 07:39 PM
Ian,

Thanks!

I understand that but you can import your shortcut keys in from an existing .txt file and as it loads it creates a log file of those shortcuts that have problems or are duplicates. I would like to know since I used the Revit 2010 shortcut standard file, why those did not get assigned and it notes there is no command for them even though Autodesk put them in the standard shortcuts file.

Kevin

Any comments on the above?

Kevin