Speedy UI 2.0 :)

[Martin P]

EDIT***
If you have the Advantage pack for Revit 2010 (or beyond) you need to go to page 5 of this thread for a working version, fixed and bugs found for later versions of Revit by MBalsom***


Ok,

I am done now. I have now combined the menus with stroke it gestures - you dont have to do that - but it speeds things up tenfold. All the 8 points of the compass will access each menu of commands (and zoom window / all)

{ALT} X
{WIN KEY} Z
and `

will run the menus as before and have the flyout option rather than using a mouse gesture.

There is a hover click option (ie no picking at all - just hover for a second and it autopicks - I have added a "hoverpads" version of the menus to give you time to look round without picking accidentally) - this means you are no more than 1 mouse pick away from any command you wish. I tried and didnt like it myself....

There is a transparency option for the menus... I also did not like this after trying it.

Both of these are separately run exe files, I cant take credit for them having taken them from Autohotkeys website and tinkering a tiny bit.....

I have added an AVI for a quick demo if you are wondering what I am on about.... it is being played at normal speed ;) Its all a bit new to me too, ie 2 days! but you can see from the video that when you get used to it - it will be extremely fast to use Revit as opposed to pick, pick picking and roaming all over the screen.... I am happy to move the whole office now onto 2010 without expecting any slow down - infact I expect we will all be faster now!


http://www.autohotkey.com/
http://www.tcbmi.com/strokeit/

PLEASE NOTE - IN STROKEIT YOU MUST DISABLE THE GLOBAL ACTIONS WHICH OVER RIDE EVERYTHING - IF YOU DO NOT IT WONT WORK!

[ron.sanpedro]

I love the fact that Autodesk ****** away some ungawdly amount of money to come up with a pisspoor embarrasment, and a user took some freeware and made a well considered tool. Well done! ;)

Gordon

[iankids]

Many Thanks Martin,

Super effort and superb result. My hat is off to you.

Cheers


Ian

[Martin P]

I love the fact that Autodesk ****** away some ungawdly amount of money to come up with a pisspoor embarrasment, and a user took some freeware and made a well considered tool. Well done! ;)

Gordon
Thanks for thumbs up for my effort, but to be honest I am not at all unhappy with the new UI myself - I have used strokeit, hotkeys, 2 key shortcuts, programmable mice etc etc for all versions of Revit. The new UI I find combined with my previous methods has helped me more than anything, I personally far prefer it to the old UI and am happy for the facelift.

I have never fully understood all the fuss, as after 6 years of using Revit as I have been IMHO you should not still be picking buttons and trawling ribbons or toolbars or menus to move or copy etc?? thats what a 2 key shortcut is for! or a programmable mouse, or fkeys or or or....... the buttons/ribbons/menus whatever come "out of the box" as I see them are for early or infrequent use, you then invest in hardware or software or time with 2 key shortcuts to move away from them - or get it free like I did ;) - or you learn and edit the 2 key shortcuts which are also free - - If you use it daily,weekly,yearly - surely it is worth a couple of days sacrifice to learn some shortcuts or programme a mouse with 30 buttons or something? The small effort or investment to do it pays back a hundred times in a very short period of time. I believe there more people happy with it than there are not, and I am certainly one of them.

You are honoured to have my first and LAST post discussing the merits or otherwise of the new UI as I swore I would never be drawn into a discussion online about it!

[draftingking]

How would you edit this to work in Revit MEP?

I modified the strokeit config to use Revit MEP instead of Revit Architecture, but I don't know what to edit to get the menu script to work with the gestures. Out of the box, only the ALT-X combo opens up a menu. Some of the command gestures work, like minimize, close, zoom all...

[Martin P]

How would you edit this to work in Revit MEP?

I modified the strokeit config to use Revit MEP instead of Revit Architecture, but I don't know what to edit to get the menu script to work with the gestures. Out of the box, only the ALT-X combo opens up a menu. Some of the command gestures work, like minimize, close, zoom all...

Sounds like it is strokeit you need to look at to make sure it recognises you are in Revit MEP - I also always disable the "global actions" part of strokeit - that is important and I should have mentioned it as it will override any settings you have.

My set up for Strokeit is as the attached image. Let me know how you get on!

[Martin P]

How would you edit this to work in Revit MEP?

I modified the strokeit config to use Revit MEP instead of Revit Architecture, but I don't know what to edit to get the menu script to work with the gestures. Out of the box, only the ALT-X combo opens up a menu. Some of the command gestures work, like minimize, close, zoom all...

Ahhhh I think I know what you have done - did you edit the REVIT 2010 - or the REVIT 2009 section in strokeit? - It HAS to be the 2010 one you use in strokeit not the 2009 version for the menus, you can just delete the 2009 one - I am pretty sure you are using the 2009 strokeit setup rather than 2010.....

[ahower]

oh wow, thanks for this stuff

I'm really digging the mouse motion menus =)

thank you thank you thank you!

[draftingking]

Ahhhh I think I know what you have done - did you edit the REVIT 2010 - or the REVIT 2009 section in strokeit? - It HAS to be the 2010 one you use in strokeit not the 2009 version for the menus, you can just delete the 2009 one - I am pretty sure you are using the 2009 strokeit setup rather than 2010.....I edited the 2010 entry but didn't turn off the global stuff...

[Henry D]

Hey Martin,

You got me into Strokeit about 3-4 year ago....and I have been a die hard user ever since. When 2010 and the new UI was introduced, I mentioned Strokeit a couple of time on this forum as it is in my opinion the fastest way to enter commands...also the most fun. I see you use some of the same gestures as I do..i.e. "Z" for split. So you have been a big influence on the way I enter commands in Revit!

[Martin P]

Hey Martin,

You got me into Strokeit about 3-4 year ago....and I have been a die hard user ever since. When 2010 and the new UI was introduced, I mentioned Strokeit a couple of time on this forum as it is in my opinion the fastest way to enter commands...also the most fun. I see you use some of the same gestures as I do..i.e. "Z" for split. So you have been a big influence on the way I enter commands in Revit!

LOL!!, yes Z is my favourite gesture too! I wonder if we could alter the mouse icons to come up with a little sword :) - and you are so right about it being the the fastest and most fun way to work.... I am delighted to hear you are using it too, the guy who made it is my personal hero of the web - he really deserves to be extremely wealthy - lets hope Autodesk make him an offer to integrate it and give hime reward he deserves :)

[patricks]

LOL!!, yes Z is my favourite gesture too! I wonder if we could alter the mouse icons to come up with a little sword :) - and you are so right about it being the the fastest and most fun way to work.... I am delighted to hear you are using it too, the guy who made it is my personal hero of the web - he really deserves to be extremely wealthy - lets hope Autodesk make him an offer to integrate it and give hime reward he deserves :)

some might call that selling out... although I'd probably take it if the price was right :lol:

[iankids]

Hi All,

I am having difficulty getting strokeit to do anything at all for me. Seems to load up ok, transferred over the file etc - but no response at all.

Windows7 64 bit.

Anyone else had problems with 64 bit?

Cheers,


Ian

[Martin P]

Hi All,

I am having difficulty getting strokeit to do anything at all for me. Seems to load up ok, transferred over the file etc - but no response at all.

Windows7 64 bit.

Anyone else had problems with 64 bit?

Cheers,


Ian

I have had to switch of the trails on a vista machine before.... in preferences you can switch off the coloured trails, strokeit website claims 64 bit windows is ok - Hope it is as I am getting a new computer next week! Let us know if you resolve this. You can also pick which button is used to start the gesture - maybe try something there, could be that? is it revit Architecture you are using? if not you will have to edit the application identifier in strokeit similar to post from "Draftingking."

[iankids]

I have had to switch of the trails on a vista machine before.... in preferences you can switch off the coloured trails, strokeit website claims 64 bit windows is ok - Hope it is as I am getting a new computer next week! Let us know if you resolve this. You can also pick which button is used to start the gesture - maybe try something there, could be that? is it revit Architecture you are using? if not you will have to edit the application identifier in strokeit similar to post from "Draftingking."


Thanks for the heads up, I will have a bit more of a play over the weekend.

I am using Revit Architecture 2010

Cheers,

Ian

[iankids]

All up and running perfectly now.

Not too sure what the exact problem was in the first instance, but a quick reboot and ensuring that SpeedieUI was active solved everything.

Cheers


Ian

[Martin P]

All up and running perfectly now.

Not too sure what the exact problem was in the first instance, but a quick reboot and ensuring that SpeedieUI was active solved everything.

Cheers


Ian

Good news..... had me worried that I would have to pass on the 64 bit computer I am eagerly awaiting to one of the other guys in the office! Now I can keep the early christmas present ;) hope you like using it.

[iankids]

Good news..... had me worried that I would have to pass on the 64 bit computer I am eagerly awaiting to one of the other guys in the office! Now I can keep the early christmas present ;) hope you like using it.

Thanks again for your effort on this, I am slowly getting the hang of it. Bit early to tell if I will stick with it, however it feels very nice with my Intuos tablet.

Enjoy the new box, 64bit 8gb ram = sweet spot!

Ian

[Martin P]

OOPS!!!! - I have just installed this from upload on here on my PC at home - the gestures for the menus appear to have been lost and I had to add them in to strokeit again at home - I am wondering I uploaded the strokeit file before I completed it?? did anyone else find this or is is just me. - ie left, right /up etc etc were not set to open the flyouts........

Anyhow, I will attach the file to show the correct gestures to open each menu if anyone else found this a problem. And I apologise if you pulled any hair out!

- Ian Kids Stick with it, well worth the effort esp on a tablet, after a week you will wonder how you did without it.

[ramon.villarias]

Martin P.

Awesome. Thanks.

I'm using Revit Structure and may have to modify some of the menus...if it's ok with you, but how do you compile it to an .exe file?


Ramon

[truevis]

but how do you compile it to an .exe file?
Install AutoHotKey and you'll have a compiler. There are other compilers around -- if you look at the AutoHotKey forum (http://www.autohotkey.com/forum/).

[patricks]

I'm intrigued with these mouse gesture shortcuts, hot keys, etc. but I'm not really familiar with AutoHotKey or StokeIt or any of this stuff. Is there any all-inclusive resource about how/what all needs to be installed to get everything to work in Revit? Sounds like you need to install certain things before other things, etc.

[iankids]

I'm intrigued with these mouse gesture shortcuts, hot keys, etc. but I'm not really familiar with AutoHotKey or StokeIt or any of this stuff. Is there any all-inclusive resource about how/what all needs to be installed to get everything to work in Revit? Sounds like you need to install certain things before other things, etc.

Hi Patrick,

Once I had downloaded both AutoHotKey and Strokeit - and installed both, I generally load the "speedyui.exe" first and then open up Strokeit. (probably work either way, but it is just my habit)

For all of the commands to work in strokeit, you need to load the strokeit file which is in Martins pack once only into the program. (File - import config)

Having worked with it for a few days now, I find myself liking it more and more, so much so, that I no longer run 2010 with the 2009 UI (although I do miss the speed),but run the ribbon with speedyui & strokeit.

Hopefully the factory can get the UI to perform better in the next iteration.

Cheers,


Ian

[Martin P]

Hi Patrick,

Once I had downloaded both AutoHotKey and Strokeit - and installed both, I generally load the "speedyui.exe" first and then open up Strokeit. (probably work either way, but it is just my habit)

For all of the commands to work in strokeit, you need to load the strokeit file which is in Martins pack once only into the program. (File - import config)

Having worked with it for a few days now, I find myself liking it more and more, so much so, that I no longer run 2010 with the 2009 UI (although I do miss the speed),but run the ribbon with speedyui & strokeit.

Hopefully the factory can get the UI to perform better in the next iteration.

Cheers,


Ian


Thats great to hear Ian :) I am glad you are enjoying using it. I am really quite into using 2010 now, having just started 2 weeks ago and am finding this a very helpful thing too, glad I did it! I am finding that some of the office seem to not get the strokeit gestures installed correctly for the AHK items? did they all work for you or did you have to edit the strokeit file to make them open the different menus?
_________________________________________________________________

INSTALLING IT

Must install these....

REVIT - you must replace the "keyboardshortcuts.txt" in Revit with the one provided

REVITSPEEDYUI.EXE - add this file to your statrup in windows, or just run it - and you are done :) - "alt X" will open the menus if you arent using mouse gestures.

____________________________________________
Additional installs....



Mouse gestures

STROKEIT - if you want mouse gestures - install this from web download.
Once installed you must import the file "revit gestures.sxp"

Note - some of the machines I installed it on did not recognise the "compass point" ie diag up down etc etc to open the flyout menus and I had to add them manually? No idea why... but edit it yourself in Strokeit to this if it happens to you.

AHK OTHERS = "\Up"
AHK VIEW = "/Up"
AHK ANNOTATE = "Right"
AHK HOME = "Left"
AHK MODIFY = "/Down"

____________________________________________

Customize menus


AUTOHOTKEYS - If you want to edit the the menus yourself open the file "Revitspeedyui.ahk". When you install Autohotkeys, in the start bar folder it adds there is an app to convert an .AHK to .EXE


____________________________________________

Additional menu options.

Transparency.exe - this makes the menus appear transparent.

Hoverpick.exe - No mouse picking in the menus, hover for a little bit and it Autopicks (if using this I have made and "hoverpads" version of the REVITSPEEDY UI, which gives you somewhere to rest the mouse without picking)

[patricks]

cool thanks. :) Think I'll pass on the transparent menus and hover picking heh.

Now I have a couple of customized keyboard shortcuts, like VD for activate/deactivate view, and VB for view properties. Also M <spacebar> for Move and C <spacebar> for copy. Can I just add those to the file you said I had to replace the original one with, in case I still want to use them?

[Martin P]

cool thanks. :) Think I'll pass on the transparent menus and hover picking heh.

Now I have a couple of customized keyboard shortcuts, like VD for activate/deactivate view, and VB for view properties. Also M <spacebar> for Move and C <spacebar> for copy. Can I just add those to the file you said I had to replace the original one with, in case I still want to use them?

Yeah, thats the bummer really - pity there wasnt a merge option! - if you have lots it may be easier to do it the other way round - ie add my 2 keys to your own as I didnt add all that many new ones.

If some of them overlap you will have to look at the editable revitspeedyui.AHK files to alter the 2 key inputs there to be the same as your own (move and copy for example) - its really easy to do - all the commands are at the bottom of the file - you would need to edit it from

cmove:
send mv
return

to

cmove:
send m{space}
return

and thats it.

[samov]

OMG .... THIS works great using a tablet pc AND a wacom pen :D

I bet this can be done by the API too...

I really have to get down and dirty with the programming skills.

[iankids]

I have had a bit over a week now with SpeedyUI and StrokeIt.

I have to say that I totally love it! I no longer have much interest in what Autodesk may or may not do with the Ribbon (although it would be nice if they can make it less resource hungry and faster!!), as pretty much 80-90% of the normal commands are either in SpeedyUI or written to a macro using JitBit macro-recorder.

Once again, my thanks to Martin for his effort, I had had a half hearted go at AutoHotKey previously and had given up, thankfully Martin persevered.

If you are ever in Oz, I owe you a beer.

Cheers,

Ian

[mbalsom]

Hi Martin
HEEEEELP !!!!!. Been using speedieUI for a couple of weeks now and totaly addidicted. Can't live or work without it. Thanks a million.
But now with "advantage pack" installed I have been disadvantaged because half my shortcuts on speedieUI dont seem to work. I have been able to change a few with new shortcut editor and get them to work but some don't seem to want to play the game ie:-
join geometry
unjoin geometry
cut geometry
uncut geometry
split
offset
extend single
extend multi
model line
view properties
zoom fit
zoom region

So far thats about all of them. Im sure you will find them all if you have the same problem.
So PLEEEESE if you can help out it would be most appreciated.

Thanks again
Mark

P.S Also all of the view context menu-
3d view
Temp hide etc..

[iankids]

Hi Martin
HEEEEELP !!!!!. Been using speedieUI for a couple of weeks now and totaly addidicted. Can't live or work without it. Thanks a million.
But now with "advantage pack" installed I have been disadvantaged because half my shortcuts on speedieUI dont seem to work. I have been able to change a few with new shortcut editor and get them to work but some don't seem to want to play the game ie:-
join geometry
unjoin geometry
cut geometry
uncut geometry
split
offset
extend single
extend multi
model line
view properties
zoom fit
zoom region

So far thats about all of them. Im sure you will find them all if you have the same problem.
So PLEEEESE if you can help out it would be most appreciated.

Thanks again
Mark

P.S Also all of the view context menu-
3d view
Temp hide etc..

Hi Mark,

I found that I had a few duplicate short cuts which stopped the command working. When you are in the shortcut command editor Ckick the word shortcuts in the bar underneath the word assignments. This will arrange all of the shortcuts together listing the alphabetically. A quick look through will find and duplicates.

You might also need to edit the Speedieui.ahk file and recompile so that it matches exactly the shortcuts xml file.

Cheers,


Ian

[mbalsom]

Hi Mark,

I found that I had a few duplicate short cuts which stopped the command working. When you are in the shortcut command editor Ckick the word shortcuts in the bar underneath the word assignments. This will arrange all of the shortcuts together listing the alphabetically. A quick look through will find and duplicates.

You might also need to edit the Speedieui.ahk file and recompile so that it matches exactly the shortcuts xml file.

Cheers,


Ian

Hi Ian
I have already tried all that with no success. Did you get all you commands to work ? If so I will have another go tonight.

Thanks
Mark

[iankids]

Hi Ian
I have already tried all that with no success. Did you get all you commands to work ? If so I will have another go tonight.

Thanks
Mark

Mmm very weird.

Having printed out the xml file, It looks like the name of the command may have been changed to simply "Cut". But having amended the .ahk file and recompiled it is still as dead as a dodo, yet the shortcut when typed in or entered via a macro works fine.

I think the issue is that the cut command is on a sub command of the modify. The xml file reads: <ShortcutItem CommandName="Cut" CommandId="ID_CUT_HOST" Shortcuts="YT" Paths="Modify>Edit Geometry" />
So I am guessing that a new sub command control needs to be added to the ahk file.

Will read up a bit more on AutoHotKeys and see if I can work it out


Ian

[mbalsom]

Hi Ian

Came to same conclusion, command ID,s have changed. Started playing around xml file and.ahk file,but end up way over my head.
Hence my plea to the GURU.
Martin where are you ???????

[Martin P]

Hi Ian

Came to same conclusion, command ID,s have changed. Started playing around xml file and.ahk file,but end up way over my head.
Hence my plea to the GURU.
Martin where are you ???????

Hi Guys,

Has there been an update to Revit or something? Not following whats changed - what is the xml file?

If you can create a shortcut to any of the commands it will be easy to fix... I am no autohotkey guru, far from it! I just learnt this stuff too! - mostly picking and editing stuff other people had done.

Edit, ah ok advantage pack....

Looks like speedy UI 3.0....... Sorry but I might not get onto this very soon, pretty busy and just got everyone going on it! We also have an office policy with (Revit) upgrades to wait 6 months before installing....... - It should be pretty easy though.... and I would be more than happy for somebody else to do the edits and take the credits though?? any offers? - save me a job later!!

EG - in speedyui.AHK file all the shortcuts are at the bottom

Mjoingeom:
send YJ
return

"YJ" is the shortcut AHK file uses for join Geometry - all you have to do is make sure that this what Revit uses in the keyboard shortcuts too.......


I expect all the ones such as below

MMatchType:
send {alt} mty
return

May also need altered..... This may be something that will have to be done each release, it has always been the case really... A shortcut migrate tool would be very handy Autodesk...?

[iankids]

Hi All,

Despite numerous attempts, I could not get the recalcitrant commands to work. I could get the command up to the last action, but Revit stubbornly refuses to acknowledge the short cut keys for some commands - most notably join and unjoin geometry plus cut and uncut geometry.

However, there is always more than one way to accomplice a task, thus, to get them working, I have used the WindowSpy program within AutoHotKey to create a mouse driven set of clicks using the x, y, coordinates on the screen.

If anyone wishes to use it, the attached .ahk file will need to be edited to suit your x and y cordodinates for the command. The fist command clicks the modify tab, the mouse is then moved to the join or cut drop down menu where it picks the appropriate points on the screen for the respective commands.

To adapt it to you own computer, simply edit the ahk file whilst running the WindowSpy program which will show you the correct x and y coordinates. Once the coordinates are corrected for your computer simply compile the ahk file and everything should be sweet.

If anyone can work out how to get them going using keys only I would be interested to understand how it should have been done.

Cheers,


Ian

[mbalsom]

Hi All,

Despite numerous attempts, I could not get the recalcitrant commands to work. I could get the command up to the last action, but Revit stubbornly refuses to acknowledge the short cut keys for some commands - most notably join and unjoin geometry plus cut and uncut geometry.



Ian

Hi Ian

You been working all weekend on this as well ?
Here's my version. I did manage to get everything working except for "edit sketch" which now seem's to "edit boundry" and also "split element". If you import my shortcut .txt file using the new ShortcutUI then updade the shortcuts for these two items using the new ShortcutUI everything works great.
I have used (EB) Edit boundry and (SL) for Split Element as per my shortcut.txt file.

Ian ,I found that there were Upper and Lower case issues in the original speedieUI.ahk. I changed all the uppercase shortcuts (in the actual shortcut commands)to lowercase and everything seemed to work. Stumbled on this by trial and error and many hours but so happy now its working.

This upper/lower case issue must be somthing to do with the new .xml fomat maybe, as it wasn,t an issue before update

I learn't so much in the process I updated to suit my needs and will definitley be a work in progress

[iankids]

Hi Ian

You been working all weekend on this as well ?
Here's my version. I did manage to get everything working except for "edit sketch" which now seem's to "edit boundry" and also "split element". If you import my shortcut .txt file using the new ShortcutUI then updade the shortcuts for these two items using the new ShortcutUI everything works great.
I have used (EB) Edit boundry and (SL) for Split Element as per my shortcut.txt file.

Ian ,I found that there were Upper and Lower case issues in the original speedieUI.ahk. I changed all the uppercase shortcuts (in the actual shortcut commands)to lowercase and everything seemed to work. Stumbled on this by trial and error and many hours but so happy now its working.

This upper/lower case issue must be somthing to do with the new .xml fomat maybe, as it wasn,t an issue before update

I learn't so much in the process I updated to suit my needs and will definitley be a work in progress

Hi Mark,

Well done, hadn't thought about whether xml files might be case sensitive, but it makes sense.

Please upload the ahk file, as I have overwritten my file so many times I will have difficulty getting it back in order.

This is a sensational tool and in my view is, particularly when using a tablet, now the most efficient method of driving common commands in Revit.

Cheers,


Ian

[mbalsom]

Hi ian
Sorry forgot the most important part.

Mark

P.S This is not the one with 3d steering wheel I will fix up later and repost

[iankids]

Hi ian
Sorry forgot the most important part.

Mark

Thanks Mark

[Martin P]

Good work guys :) I hope it was not too painful in the end, well worth the effort I think though ;) Happy that there are now at least a couple more people doing these! - and the best part of AHK is that you can make it to suit yourself.

A couple of questions, which will help me in a few months time when we install the latest service pack thing! -

What is the xml file - is that like the Keyboard shortcuts file now?

Was the entire problem that the keyboard shortcuts are now case sensitive?? Which seems a bit mad!

[iankids]

Good work guys :) I hope it was not too painful in the end, well worth the effort I think though ;) Happy that there are now at least a couple more people doing these! - and the best part of AHK is that you can make it to suit yourself.

A couple of questions, which will help me in a few months time when we install the latest service pack thing! -

What is the xml file - is that like the Keyboard shortcuts file now?

Was the entire problem that the keyboard shortcuts are now case sensitive?? Which seems a bit mad!

Yep!

The keyboardshortcuts.txt is no more. The compiled shortcuts are in an xml file. You can import the txt file to set up your current shortcuts, but as Mark has discovered, it seems they are case sensitive.

Not sure where it is housed initially, however when you export the xml file it is located in:

User\appdata\local\Autodesk\revit architecture 2010

Cheers,

Ian

[mbalsom]

OK guys here is my latest attempt with an extra menu on the down stroke. I have packaged the ,stokeit file (to add extra down stroke F9 shortcut), ahk file,hotkey.exe, keyboard shortcuts.txt file, and a copy of .XML file (for Martin.P to have a look at)
Everything is working except for two tools , but this can be fixed with new shortcutUI (check readme .txt)

Some people my think this an extreme way to work but with large screens (mines 30") it must save hundreds of kilometers of mouse travel a year

Mark

P.S Make sure (in Stroekit) the strokeit file changes AHK-Current to (gesture)Down and (Command) F9. Yuo may have to remove "Down Gesture" from "Zoom Window"

[priitl22047477]

Awesome work. Thank you.

[iankids]

OK guys here is my latest attempt with an extra menu on the down stroke. I have packaged the ,stokeit file (to add extra down stroke F9 shortcut), ahk file,hotkey.exe, keyboard shortcuts.txt file, and a copy of .XML file (for Martin.P to have a look at)
Everything is working except for two tools , but this can be fixed with new shortcutUI (check readme .txt)

Some people my think this an extreme way to work but with large screens (mines 30") it must save hundreds of kilometers of mouse travel a year

Mark

P.S Make sure (in Stroekit) the strokeit file changes AHK-Current to (gesture)Down and (Command) F9. Yuo may have to remove "Down Gesture" from "Zoom Window"

Thanks Mark,

Nice extras in the F9 down stroke

Ian

[Martin P]

thread in general copied to here...


Advantage pack additional shortcuts?
I have seen reference to there being additional shortcuts available - can anyone tell me what they are please?

Specifically I would like to know

can you now access Edit - sketch,group, wall profile etc etc via keyboard shortcuts?

can you access Finish / Quit - sketch,group, wall profile etc etc via shortcuts?

If so, what happens if you make them all have the same shortcut - does it work? ie ED for edit (whatever it is) FN for finish (whatever it is)

We have a general office policy of waiting several months to upgrade (for service packs etc to be issued) - Presumably this is a very stable release, if the above are implemented I may be able to push for it be used now....



Hi Martin
The answer is yes to all your questions. And also yes you can have the same shortcut for all modes of edit sketch or boundry.
I have all ready taken advantage of this in my latest .AHK setup, its fantastic !!!
Have a look at attatched files.
Personally I wouldn"t hold back in updating to "advantage pack" it's got some great features and so far very stable


Happy days!! that was the major thing bugging me about the AHK thing that Edit/finish/quit sketch only worked sometimes - I will get to work on overturning the "lets wait" policy, and will most likely be installing your update of the AHK / Shortcuts file - will just put my own version to zoom region on the downstroke, have done it for years now and it would drive me nuts to change now ;) - I will make your version of downstroke a "Down up" - many thanks to you for spending the time you did on it and finding the bugs with the update :)

[Martin P]

errrr...... Unless I am completely missing something - I cannot seem to access edit/finish/quit for most items through keyboard shortcuts? infact I now cannot even access them through the "ALT TT" as the new new structural tab has been assigned as "ALT T" and will not allow "ALT TT" to be be selected :( Which I could previously do when I wanted to edit an item.

With 2 key combos available to the "ALT" option and 24 letters in the alphabet - and "ALT TT" clashes with "ALT T" very high odds that this should not have been a problem really!! - but it is .... As far as I can tell, I now have much less access to edit / finish / quit options than I did before the upgrade?

Am I missing something??