Double Wall Error?

[ty_demo15]

Hi,

I have a Residental plan that I am working on in ACA 2009. The Client wants double walls in certian ares. When i draw (2) 2x4 walls side by side i get an error that displays on the wall. Does anyone know how to get rid of this?

Thanks,

[H-Angus]

Hi,

I have a Residental plan that I am working on in ACA 2009. The Client wants double walls in certian ares. When i draw (2) 2x4 walls side by side i get an error that displays on the wall. Does anyone know how to get rid of this?

Thanks,

Your best option would be to create a new wall style for the double stud walls incorporating both as different components within a single wall style.

[ty_demo15]

Thanks for the quick reply. That thought did come to mind. Do you know of a way to eliminate this error with having the (2) single walls side by side? Just curious. I think the new wall style will be the best way, but I'm always wanting to learn reasoning behind certian errors.

Thanks,

[ty_demo15]

Ok, so i sent my second Reply too soon. It has to do with the Baseline of the walls. I worked on flipping the baselines and editing the endpoints of the walls and the errors went away. Thanks for your input!

[H-Angus]

Thanks for the quick reply. That thought did come to mind. Do you know of a way to eliminate this error with having the (2) single walls side by side? Just curious. I think the new wall style will be the best way, but I'm always wanting to learn reasoning behind certian errors.

Thanks,

I guess you could play around with wall clean up radius settings, or maybe creating a couple of different clean up group definitions so the two walls side by side would not try and clean up with each other.

Another thought would be to assign one of the walls a new style and edit the component priorities to avoid clean up issues between the two wall - not sure how successful that would be.


Hands down the best and simplest option would be to create a new wall style for the double stud.

[dzatto]

Just to fortify your confidence in H'Angus, I agree that creating a new wall style is the way to go. And it's really simple to do.

[H-Angus]

Ok, so i sent my second Reply too soon. It has to do with the Baseline of the walls. I worked on flipping the baselines and editing the endpoints of the walls and the errors went away. Thanks for your input!

One thing to consider is that any doors/windows/openings etc would only be anchored and thus clean up/cut through one of the walls rather than cutting through both.


Just to fortify your confidence in H'Angus, I agree that creating a new wall style is the way to go. And it's really simple to do.

Cheers mate :):beer:

[neje]

[QUOTE=H'Angus;1016482]One thing to consider is that any doors/windows/openings etc would only be anchored and thus clean up/cut through one of the walls rather than cutting through both.

To handle this just select the second wall and add the first walls frames as interference objects and answer yes even though the frames aren't touching. You may also need to add a Y offset to balance the frame position between both walls.

[tra1133]

To expand on this subject, I agree with H'Angus on creating a new wall style. Unfortunately it doesn't always cover every situation. The issue I have is one where we are furring out an existing wall. If the existing wall is set to A-Wall-E and the new one is set to A-Wall (the shrink wrap of each), how would I incorporate them into one style? I have no problem using two separate wall styles however when I have a door or window placed in one, it won't cut through the other. I don't want to use the boundaries of each individual component either because I would end up with a muddled mess. Any ideas (see attached; ACA 2009, Project Navigator)?

[Chuckyd67]

to create a single opening in both walls, do the following:

Create a single wall style that includes both new and existing walls. Name the components so that you can easily recognize new and existing walls. Then go the display properties of the desired views and assign layers to selected components, as appropriate.

Another way to achieve the desired results is to create 3D walls as you would in real life. According to your attached sketch, the window is placed in the existing opening. Then, in the new wall you would simply place a matching opening.

If you go the two wall style method you will need to have the walls set to different cleanup groups.

[neje]

To expand on this subject, I agree with H'Angus on creating a new wall style. Unfortunately it doesn't always cover every situation. The issue I have is one where we are furring out an existing wall. If the existing wall is set to A-Wall-E and the new one is set to A-Wall (the shrink wrap of each), how would I incorporate them into one style? I have no problem using two separate wall styles however when I have a door or window placed in one, it won't cut through the other. I don't want to use the boundaries of each individual component either because I would end up with a muddled mess. Any ideas (see attached; ACA 2009, Project Navigator)?

Have you tried the interference option? This also ties it to the object rather than a completely separate opening object to the 2nd wall. So it will move with the frame.

[tra1133]

If i create a new style with existing and new, I can separate the two, however, the shrink wrap around the entire wall stays the same. We use this shrink wrap to discern the outer shell of the wall. Gives it more punch and the boundaries of the individual components are on a lighter lineweight layer.