Subscription Advantage Pack for Revit

[Alan aka cadalot]

Well Boys and Girls following on from the video conference between Active Bloggers and the Revit Product team, I’ve just attended here are the highlights of what is going to be included in the Subscription Advantage Pack for Revit 2010.

Rather than releasing separate extensions like they have done in the past, Autodesk have bundled these all up as a complete release with a number of new features which is due October 22 (2 Days time if all goes well)

improvements include:-

Enable shortcuts for additional commands
Additional shortcut commands
A new UI to control the shortcuts
Conditional formatting in all products
DWG export improvements
Text formatting – from shortcuts
Find and replace text
Model lines to Detail lines and back
Link file improvements
API improvements
Autodesk Revit Model Review
Revit DBlink
Image modeler will now be included so you can create point cloud data from images and
export this to DWG and import this into Revit
Wood Wall Framing tool

Revit Architecture gets all the features they wanted from a Revit Structure Port:

Curved beams
Beam copping
Create Trusses
Tag beam systems
Slab directions and decking
Slanted columns
Split with Gap
Revit Structure advantage features will also include:-

Insulation tool
Placing 3d beams from geometry references in imported 3d drawings
Control beam length tolerance
Wood Framing
Interferences of Reinforcing bars
Bridge Design Modules
"A" ansd "W" User defined parameters to be available in Schedule Field
Placing 3D beams from geometry references in imported 3D drawings
Countrification Content for China, Russia and Italy
ADS now available in 64 bit
Structure Extensions

Wood Framing
Interference of Reinforcing Bars
Bridge Design Modules
Revit MEP advantages features will also include:-


Temporary dimensions in layout mode
MEP performance improvements
Content Countrification for China, Russia,UK, International
New Electrical content for the US to be available as download from Subsription Centre
Communications, Fire Safety, Security, Data, Nurse Call, Power.
So who was there in no particular order:-

Autodesk:- Wai Chu ~ Revit Structure Product Manager, Anthony Hauck ~ BIM Design Product Line Manager, Scott Latch ~ Revit Architecture Product Manager, Richard Taylor ~ Platform Feature Product Manager, David Pothier ~ Revit MEP Product Manager, Betsy Werra, Armundo Darling & David Mills


Bloggers:- David Harrington, Gregory Arkin, Jeffrey Pinheiro (aka The revit Kid), James Van, David Light, Richard Taylor, Robert Manna, Kelcey Lemon, Robin Capper and Yours Truly.

Sorry if I missed anyone.....

Great Event can't wait to get my grubby little hands on the software

For screen shots of new features see http://bimboom.blogspot.com/2009/10/...ck-photos.html
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[gbrowne]

Damn. Beaten to it....

I saw it here: http://autodesk-revit.blogspot.com/

[still.james]

great news, cant wait to download

[studio3p]

great news, cant wait to download

Good news. You don't have to. I just downloaded it.

[still.james]

Good news. You don't have to. I just downloaded it.

cheers, just logged in and downloaded.

[joe.198711]

i was looking forward to seeing the Wood Framing of the walls and what that was all about. but i do not see the option for that anywhere. anybody else know anything about this?

[Wes Macaulay]

Yeah - that's the Revit Extensions, a separate download.

[joe.198711]

gotcha, thanks Wes.

[brethomp]

Check out the Type Selector. Nice improvement.

[scott.latch]

i was looking forward to seeing the Wood Framing of the walls and what that was all about. but i do not see the option for that anywhere. anybody else know anything about this?

It's part of the Revit Extensions for Autodesk Revit Architecture 2010 download.

[TroyGates]

Check out the Type Selector. Nice improvement.

Simple little fix that should improve usability and hopefully performance. I like it.

[Revit3D.com]

They're here.....Autodesk just released them all.
You must be be logged into subscription center to get them.

*Subscription Advantage Pack for Autodesk Revit MEP 2010 (http://subscription.autodesk.com/sp/servlet/download/item?siteID=11564774&id=14055384)
*Subscription Advantage Pack for Autodesk Revit Structure 2010 (http://subscription.autodesk.com/sp/servlet/download/item?siteID=11564774&id=14055424)
*Subscription Advantage Pack for AutoCAD MEP 2010 (http://subscription.autodesk.com/sp/servlet/download/item?siteID=11564774&id=14055080)
*Subscription Advantage Pack for AutoCAD 2010 (http://subscription.autodesk.com/sp/servlet/download/item?siteID=11564774&id=14055091)
*Subscription Advantage Pack for AutoCAD Structural Detailing 2010 (http://subscription.autodesk.com/sp/servlet/download/item?siteID=11564774&id=14055111)
*Subscription Advantage Pack for AutoCAD Architecture 2010 (http://subscription.autodesk.com/sp/servlet/download/item?siteID=11564774&id=14055131)
*Subscription Advantage Pack for AutoCAD Plant 3D 2010 (http://subscription.autodesk.com/sp/servlet/download/item?siteID=11564774&id=14055142)
*Subscription Advantage Pack for AutoCAD P&ID 2010 (http://subscription.autodesk.com/sp/servlet/download/item?siteID=11564774&id=14055162)
*Subscription Advantage Pack for AutoCAD Mechanical 2010 (http://subscription.autodesk.com/sp/servlet/download/item?siteID=11564774&id=14055182)
*Subscription Advantage Pack for AutoCAD Civil 2010 (http://subscription.autodesk.com/sp/servlet/download/item?siteID=11564774&id=14055202)
*Subscription Advantage Pack for Autodesk Revit Architecture 2010 (http://subscription.autodesk.com/sp/servlet/download/item?siteID=11564774&id=14055363)
*Subscription Advantage Pack for AutoCAD Map 3D 2010 (http://subscription.autodesk.com/sp/servlet/download/item?siteID=11564774&id=14055218)
*Subscription Advantage Pack for AutoCAD Civil 3D 2010 (http://subscription.autodesk.com/sp/servlet/download/item?siteID=11564774&id=14055208)

[truevis]

...MEP performance improvements...
Can anyone elucidate on that point?

[gordolake]

Great news to see some bang for our bucks.

Warning: content extraction (libraries) apply to this update, so it takes awhile to complete.

[Wes Macaulay]

The _SP3 folders that get created actually contain superceded content, not new content

[dwills.114624]

So far I like it. Seems zippier. Nice improvement to the "Type Selector". I'm getting to grips with the framing extension - not sure yet if I can make it fly 100% to Aussie standards, but I'm sure there is a way (any Aussies -- input please!) It seems to suffer from an issue common to the extensions: they don't work like Revit tools, more like Autodesk ones... :)

Love the Detail/Model line switcheroo tool!

Aaarrrggghhhh factor: some icons have taken a drunken stroll again (and changed size), just when I was getting used to where they were!

Structure tools: About ruddy time!

Slight QA issue: the Adjust Eaves Height and Overhang icons are missing in my install. Can anyone confirm?

I'll post more observances once I have some.

DW

[trombe]

So far I like it. Seems zippier. Nice improvement to the "Type Selector". I'm getting to grips with the framing extension - not sure yet if I can make it fly 100% to Aussie standards, but I'm sure there is a way (any Aussies -- input please!) It seems to suffer from an issue common to the extensions: they don't work like Revit tools, more like Autodesk ones... :)


Slight QA issue: the Adjust Eaves Height and Overhang icons are missing in my install. Can anyone confirm?..........
DW

Hi, when you select the magenta sketch line ? your align and overhang icons are gone ? -mine are there.....however.....
I do not seem to have any Wood Wall Framing Tool...where is it hidden ?
cheers
trombe

[sureshchotrani]

Where is "Image modeler will now be included so you can create point cloud data from images and export this to DWG and import this into Revit"

Can anybody find it in this service pack, as I am not getting any such tool in this service pack.

[iankids]

I posted this in "a note about update 2 from the factory" thread, but seems more appropriate here.

Wood Framing Walls:

I will preface my comments by saying that I have had about an hour or so using the wood framing walls extension.

For me, at the moment, it seems a have the odd glitch or two.

For the test run of the extension, I chose a simple timber framed external wall with a core thickness of 90mm (timber stud) clad externally with Hebel power panel (75mm) and lined internally with plasterboard (10mm). Wall total thickness 175mm

Having selected the wall and the ran the Wood Framing Extension, the first thing I noticed was that the generated thickness of the core (and therefore the ultimate framing) was 175mm - the total wall thickness - not the 90mm core thickness as set up in the wall system family. This nominated thickness was grayed out and unable to be altered.

Once the wal is generated, you can alter the size of stud by selecting all instance and the manually adjusting it in the element properties. The resizing however still has the center line of the stud located on the center line of the wall wall rather that the center line of the core. When I tried to move it an error message appeared saying "Unable to keep elements joined" - probably the joining of the studs and plates.

Overall, will be a good tool once the thickness issue is sorted. (assuming of course that it is not simply a user error!!)

Cheers,

Ian

Windows7 64bit 8 gb ram

[sureshchotrani]

Hello guys,

Can you find the tool Image modeler in this, as I am not getting this after installing. Please help.

[iankids]

Hello guys,

Can you find the tool Image modeler in this, as I am not getting this after installing. Please help.

Hi sureshchotrani,

The image modeler is a separate standalone piece of software which is downloaded independent of the Revit Upgrade. The installation codes are on the subscription page where you download it.

Cheers


Ian

[iankids]

Hi, when you select the magenta sketch line ? your align and overhang icons are gone ? -mine are there.....however.....
I do not seem to have any Wood Wall Framing Tool...where is it hidden ?
cheers
trombe

Hi Trombe,
It is part of the extensions pack and when installed is under the extensions manager in the Add-Ins tab.

Ian

[trombe]

Hi Trombe,
It is part of the extensions pack and when installed is under the extensions manager in the Add-Ins tab.

Ian

Hi Ian,

thanks man, Yes, that is what I suspected...do you think that they figured because you beat us at sport, research in medicine, great beaches, numbers of reality shows, quality of slagging at cricket etc, that you deserve to get the Wood Frame Tool and the kiwis don't.

I installed the pack into my 2010 x64 - WU-2 set up and the tool is not there, and, there does not seem to be files lying round in the Program Data area of Vista 6x either so either they took it out for me or it figured kiwis don't deserve it !.

BTW for anyone querying the others , you need to look closely on the sub site for "all Revit extensions" - there is the page with the new pack at the top of the list and all the other things available are below it one by one (DB Link, Image Modeller, Revit Extensions and so on). The main download for me was about 92 Mb....err that will be wihtouth Wood Framing extension I guess !!

Anyone got an answer ?......any kiwis have it installed under an x64 WU-2 existing install ?
trombe

[iankids]

Hi Ian,

thanks man, Yes, that is what I suspected...do you think that they figured because you beat us at sport, research in medicine, great beaches, numbers of reality shows, quality of slagging at cricket etc, that you deserve to get the Wood Frame Tool and the kiwis don't.

I installed the pack into my 2010 x64 - WU-2 set up and the tool is not there, and, there does not seem to be files lying round in the Program Data area of Vista 6x either so either they took it out for me or it figured kiwis don't deserve it !.

BTW for anyone querying the others , you need to look closely on the sub site for "all Revit extensions" - there is the page with the new pack at the top of the list and all the other things available are below it one by one (DB Link, Image Modeller, Revit Extensions and so on). The main download for me was about 92 Mb....err that will be wihtouth Wood Framing extension I guess !!

Anyone got an answer ?......any kiwis have it installed under an x64 WU-2 existing install ?
trombe

Agree about the beaches & the cricket, however NZ punches above it's weight on most other things.

Yep, the Revit extensions download is where a lot of the new goodies are.

Cheers,

Ian

PS I'd be interested to see if you can get the Wood Framing add on to work any better than I did - can't seem to get them working properly.

[dwills.114624]

With the wood framing extension, try loading and setting up the stud families/types required (structural beam families I believe) before running it. I think you can then alter the default settings/offsets to the loaded families. However, I am at home now and (stupidly) did not bring home the installer which I left at work, so I can't test this unless I DL it again.

DW

[priitl22047477]

*Subscription Advantage Pack for AutoCAD Structural Detailing 2010

Where I can find that . It tells me that this page is unavailable.

[arqt49]

*Subscription Advantage Pack for AutoCAD Structural Detailing 2010

Where I can find that . It tells me that this page is unavailable.

Keep trying.
I got the same error and eventually entered.
Everyone is downloading the files today.

[ws]

Must be overloaded - I can't even get on to the subscription center today.

[priitl22047477]

Strangely I see no reference to "*Subscription Advantage Pack for AutoCAD Structural Detailing 2010" in my subscription site. I see link to Revit and Autocad, ni special link for ASD.
Are they same for Autocad and ASD?

[twiceroadsfool]

I cant get in the subscription center either... It appears to be down all morning.

EDIT: Just managed to get in!

[david.mills]

Hi Folks,

It was a congestion issue - sorry for the inconvenience. Our IT group has been working on it this morning. I just recieved word that it is resolved now. Give it a try and let me know if the errors continue.

-Dave Mills
Autodesk Marketing

[cphubb]

Anybody else having trouble installing the Autodesk Revit Model Review?

Followed the standard install and it only installed on RAC2009. Skipped MEP and STR2009 and all the 2010 products.

I even copied the Extension information from the .ini file to the 2010 .ini with no luck.

Looking forward to this feature, hope I can get it installed.

Thanks

[TroyGates]

The model review has separate installs for 2009 and 2010.

[cphubb]

The model review has separate installs for 2009 and 2010.

Thanks,

There was only 1 link there when I downloaded yesterday.

[patricks]

The Revit 2010 Extensions EXE file keeps trying to install everything in my Revit 2009 Extensions folder. Anyone else having this problem?

[patricks]

Slight QA issue: the Adjust Eaves Height and Overhang icons are missing in my install. Can anyone confirm?



When I am editing a roof, I see the boundary line draw tools, then the Properties button (for the sketch lines, not the roof type), then the Align Eaves button, then Measure, Dimension, etc. etc.

If the eaves are all aligned, it tells you if you click on Align Eaves.

The Roof Overhang box appears in the Options bar when picking wall elements to define the roof boundary, or if you select a sketch line that is referencing a wall.

[greg.mcdowell]

Installed everything last night and it looks great... but where did the installer put all the files?

I'm looking for the Span Direction Symbol family in particular. I can't fin it in our content library so I assume it's new... but where is it?

[patricks]

probably in the same place it put the structural deck profile family... they probably didn't include one :roll:

[greg.mcdowell]

Well that's no good. So then is anyone able to use the new structural floor? Seems without that family I'm dead in the water... though I suppose I could dig through my old Revit Structural trial install for the family. Hmmm

[patricks]

Yeah it's like they're teasing us. They give us all these new structural tools, but don't include the families that are needed to use them!

I saw that some of the project template RTE files were updated in my local library. They could have put the required families in there, too.

[scott.latch]

Sorry for the confusion. I'm looking into the missing content issue.:Oops:

Stay tuned....

[Alan aka cadalot]

Hi Scott

As there is no one from Structures keeping an eye over on AUGI Revit Structure General like you and Mike have over here, can you give them a kick in the pants and ask why MIke Hacker and I are having trouble installing the Advantage Pack please......

[scott.latch]

Sorry for the confusion. I'm looking into the missing content issue.:Oops:

Stay tuned....

I'm told the content should be in C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Autodesk\RAC 2010\Imperial Library_SP3 EDIT: This was incorrect. See Posts #48 & #49 of this thread.

Let me know if it is not there.

Alan, Wai is on his way to respond. :)

[Alan aka cadalot]

Thanks Scott ~ Hope you did not scare him when you woke him up ;0)

[wai.chu]

Yup I just responded it. I think our Dev has found out the root of the issue and we (RST) are planning to re-release a patch or a new build soon. So stay tune. Once it will be available I will let users know.

Best,

Wai

[Wes Macaulay]

I'm quite sure that the delay between switching from family to project has been reduced -- can anyone confirm this? If so, great stuff -- this was a real productivity killer with the Ribbon. As others have noted, the new design of the Type Selector is way better!

[brethomp]

I'm told the content should be in C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Autodesk\RAC 2010\Imperial Library_SP3

Let me know if it is not there.

Scott,

I don't have that folder, but I think it might be because our network deployment is set to not install content, since it's all stored on a network drive. Is there somewhere I could download this new content? Or could you post it here?

Thanks
Bret

[Steven Campbell]

I'm told the content should be in C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Autodesk\RAC 2010\Imperial Library_SP3


I need to clarify, the service pack tools copies the duplicate content to the above path, then all new and updated content like the span direction symbols and metal deck profiles should be in your normal library...

Imperial Library\Annotations\Structural\Span Direction.rfa
Imperial Library\Profiles\Structural\Form Deck_Composite.rfa
etc.

Steve

[scott.latch]

I don't have that folder, but I think it might be because our network deployment is set to not install content, since it's all stored on a network drive. Is there somewhere I could download this new content? Or could you post it here?

Bret,

The instructions are in typically in the readme we post with updates, but in this case we didn't have a readme. (Shame on us). Below are the instructions:

Apply This Update to a Deployment Installation with Shared Content

Download the update and save it to any folder.
Ensure the original product installation media is available.
To update local content and program files: Find the folder where you saved the update and double-click the executable (EXE) file.
To update shared content: Click Run on the Start menu (Windows). From the Program folder of the installed product, enter following information and click OK.
Ex. C:\Program Files\Revit Architecture 2010\Program> autodesk_revit_architecture_2010_subscription_update_x86_enu.exe /rc
When the installation is completed, the following message will be displayed: “The Service Pack was successfully installed and Revit Architecture 2010 has been updated.”

[Alan aka cadalot]

Scott

Next time instead of getting us Bloggers to watch previews, why don't you get us to Beta test the web pages and the downloads before going live?

Save all that egg on your faces!

[scott.latch]

You would think we could get it right. It's not like we've never released software before.;)

Actually, for the amount of products we released updates for, a few glitches are to be expected. The Subscription Team at Autodesk deserves a big hand for the monumental effort they have done.

[sfaust]

I need to clarify, the service pack tools copies the duplicate content to the above path, then all new and updated content like the span direction symbols and metal deck profiles should be in your normal library...

Imperial Library\Annotations\Structural\Span Direction.rfa
Imperial Library\Profiles\Structural\Form Deck_Composite.rfa
etc.

Steve

First of all, kick butt tools, thanks!!! However, I'm having a few issues. I've looked for the structural content and can not find it. I looked in the above folders but no such families exist. Also I don't have a _SP3 folder in my library at all. Can someone just post the new content?

Second, I have the find and replace text tool, but when I press the button nothing happens...

any suggestions?

[trombe]

I'm quite sure that the delay between switching from family to project has been reduced -- can anyone confirm this? If so, great stuff -- this was a real productivity killer with the Ribbon. As others have noted, the new design of the Type Selector is way better!

Ha Wes,
Along with the missing Wood Framing Tool, my type selector is just the same as it was for the default 2010 factory DVD build...what is different about the Type Selector please ?
Also discovered no structural decks and missing span tags - none of these are in SP3 folder.

regards
trombe

[Wes Macaulay]

See attached. The whole Type Selector area drops down now, making it easier to click it.

[patricks]

I'm told the content should be in C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Autodesk\RAC 2010\Imperial Library_SP3

Let me know if it is not there.

Alan, Wai is on his way to respond. :)

I have an Imperial Templates_SP3 folder, but not the Library folder.


I need to clarify, the service pack tools copies the duplicate content to the above path, then all new and updated content like the span direction symbols and metal deck profiles should be in your normal library...

Imperial Library\Annotations\Structural\Span Direction.rfa
Imperial Library\Profiles\Structural\Form Deck_Composite.rfa
etc.

Steve

I have these folders, but there is no new content in them. Everything in these folders is dated March 2009, which I suspect are the original families from the initial April release.

[brethomp]

I have had no luck with the /rc switch. The patch seems to do nothing with that switch, it doesnt even install the patch. If someone has gotten the new content, could you be kind enough to post it?

[trombe]

See attached. The whole Type Selector area drops down now, making it easier to click it.

argh ! thanks Wes.
No, my Type Selector has not changed to that.
Hey the keyboard shortcut editor works though....
will check what else is missing in action .
thanks
trombe

[greg.mcdowell]

Apply This Update to a Deployment Installation with Shared Content
Download the update and save it to any folder.
Ensure the original product installation media is available.
To update local content and program files: Find the folder where you saved the update and double-click the executable (EXE) file.
To update shared content: Click Run on the Start menu (Windows). From the Program folder of the installed product, enter following information and click OK.
Ex. C:\Program Files\Revit Architecture 2010\Program> Autodesk_Revit_Architecture_2010-x86_Update 1.exe /rc
When the installation is completed, the following message will be displayed: “The Service Pack was successfully installed and Revit Architecture 2010 has been updated.”

This doesn't work for me. I presume because I've moved the content from its default location and renamed the folder to something other than Imperial. Is there something else I can do to get this content? Perhaps if Autodesk where to make another download available with just content we could take care of putting it where it belongs on our servers.

[luke.s.johnson]

Keyboard shortcuts utility is good, but it doesn't like my 'single key' shortcuts anymore. I used to be able to set 'M' then Enter to trigger the Move command...but now it wants me to use arrow keys to select the appropriate shortcut beginning with M. How do you set the 'priority' of which shortcut shows first? It used to be the 'first in the TXT' file.

Any ideas?

[twaldock]

OK, supposing we have updated the content with the first install (fingers crossed, I'm sitting watching the "content extraction" % complete inch slowly across the screen"), how do we tell all subsequent installs on other computers NOT to attempt to update the content, as we should already have it on our server by then?

[patricks]

OK, supposing we have updated the content with the first install (fingers crossed, I'm sitting watching the "content extraction" % complete inch slowly across the screen"), how do we tell all subsequent installs on other computers NOT to attempt to update the content, as we should already have it on our server by then?

I would think any program updates would only update local content on your own machine. It shouldn't ever affect content stored on a central server. Once one person installs the update, if the content is installed, then that person can copy the content to the server.

[twaldock]

I would think any program updates would only update local content on your own machine. It shouldn't ever affect content stored on a central server. Once one person installs the update, if the content is installed, then that person can copy the content to the server.

You are quite right that it won't affect content on the server. BUT I don't want the installer to spend 45 minutes downloading content, templates and help files for all the other installs. I need a switch that says "Skip content installation".
Autodesk, please can you post a "readme" file for the install on your website, so that all the other users don't have any problems.

By the way, at the end of the install I got an "Installation successfull" message that said
". . . . .update MAY include enhanced functionality . . .".
Is that a warning or a promise? ;)

[Steven Campbell]

I have an Imperial Templates_SP3 folder, but not the Library folder.



I have these folders, but there is no new content in them. Everything in these folders is dated March 2009, which I suspect are the original families from the initial April release.
The SP3 folders backup the old content into this location, then add the new content into your standard library location.

Any chance you deleted the signature file out of the library folder? The installer checks the signiture file to see what cabs it needs to update, in this case you should a file "NAImperial.cab.signature" called in the root of your library for the US Imperial install for the library files.

Also what OS and are your library files local? Just so we can start narrowing this down.
Steve

[patricks]

The SP3 folders backup the old content into this location, then add the new content into your standard library location.

Any chance you deleted the signature file out of the library folder? The installer checks the signiture file to see what cabs it needs to update, in this case you should a file "NAImperial.cab.signature" called in the root of your library for the US Imperial install for the library files.

Also what OS and are your library files local? Just so we can start narrowing this down.
Steve

I just installed the SAP on my home machine and everything went fine. RAC 2010 is installed on my C drive, but I actually keep the local library on my 1TB D drive. I checked that library and the Imperial Library_SP3 is there, the new structural content is there in the Imperial Library Folder, the NAImperial.cab.signature file was updated. I'll have to remote into my office machine to have a look at what happened on there. If nothing else I could just copy these new files on my home machine directly onto our server at the office.

*edit* just checked the work machine, and that Signature file was NOT updated when the SAP was installed. It's still dated 6.12.2009, the date of content files installed with WU1 I believe.

OS is XP Pro 32-bit at work. Library is on my local machine, but rarely used. Content is stored on our server for all to use, and any new content that comes out with new releases or updates is copied over accordingly.

[Steven Campbell]

I just installed the SAP on my home machine and everything went fine. RAC 2010 is installed on my C drive, but I actually keep the local library on my 1TB D drive. I checked that library and the Imperial Library_SP3 is there, the new structural content is there in the Imperial Library Folder, the NAImperial.cab.signature file was updated. I'll have to remote into my office machine to have a look at what happened on there. If nothing else I could just copy these new files on my home machine directly onto our server at the office.

*edit* just checked the work machine, and that Signature file was NOT updated when the SAP was installed. It's still dated 6.12.2009, the date of content files installed with WU1 I believe.

OS is XP Pro 32-bit at work. Library is on my local machine, but rarely used. Content is stored on our server for all to use, and any new content that comes out with new releases or updates is copied over accordingly.
So on your work computer you repathed the library to a network location after the original install?

[patricks]

So on your work computer you repathed the library to a network location after the original install?

Yes, the default path when loading a family is the Imperial Library location on our server.

I did look in that folder on the server, no "signature" file was found, nor any folder containing SP3 in the file name was found.

[Steven Campbell]

Yes, the default path when loading a family is the Imperial Library location on our server.

I did look in that folder on the server, no "signature" file was found, nor any folder containing SP3 in the file name was found.

That is the issue then the installer checks your path and looks for all the signature files, then updates the cabs based on the signature files it finds. Since your library on the server did not have a signature file it did not update it. I will let dev know.

I am wondering if others that posted this problem have a similar circumstance?
Steve

[Alan aka cadalot]

Yep

Had this problem with Upgrade2 because of the way it installed but did not update the Metric library on the LAN.

I had to install at home then find what was new and transfer onto the Local Area Network at work

[patricks]

So can I change the default library path back to my local machine, and re-run the SAP update?

[Mike_Maloney]

Steve or Scott,

I've installed the SP-3 twice now, and still have not been able to find the Imperial Library_Sp3. I even did a search for the individual Span direction and Form Deck_Composite rfa's, and it returned a negative result. They apparently didn't install.

Where do we go from here?

Mike Maloney
BIM Mgr
SSA

[cstanley]

I, too have had a bit of trouble with the framing extension, and I'm clearly doing something wrong.

I keep getting an error stating "You need to load Wood materials to the project."

I think I've loaded everything I can think of, including all the new profiles and elements, but no success.

Anyone have any ideas?


edit: Nevermind, I figured it out. Using the Content Generator in the external tools menu allowed me to generate wood materials...not very intuitive...


I posted this in "a note about update 2 from the factory" thread, but seems more appropriate here.

Wood Framing Walls:

...

Overall, will be a good tool once the thickness issue is sorted. (assuming of course that it is not simply a user error!!)

Cheers,

Ian

Windows7 64bit 8 gb ram

[Mike_Maloney]

Scott and Steve, anothe thing I just remembered about the updates........I only saw on the screen the download thingy for the Help file..........that was it........no content, etc as with the Extensions. Don't know if that makes a difference.

Mike Maloney
BIM Mgr
SSA

[DoTheBIM]

For those that keep getting the load wood material dialog you only need the wood "material" loaded. The extension will generate the studs/geometry whether you generated it with the content generator or not. See Video here.... Make Stud Walls video (http://screencast.com/t/uH7K6xMake Stud Walls video)

[Mike_Maloney]

Okay, I tried something else..Since all my paths were to my Content on the Server, I reset them to the D & C/All Users.....location, and re-ran the install...........After downloading the new Help File, the NA Imperial Content Library DID SHOW UP as downloading and installing. After the install was done, I went to the folder, and sure enough, the SP_3 folders appeared.

Mike Maloney
BIM Mgr
SSA

[patricks]

Autodesk needs to make it clear that your default library paths must point to your local library for this to install correctly. Of course, this really only needs to happen on one machine, so that the content can be copied to the centrally-stored library. Then it shouldn't matter if the content installs on the other machines in the office.

As for the wood framing walls, besides being pretty much useless in our office environment, you have to go to Materials and under the Physical tab for whatever material you use for the wood stud layer, and change the Material Type to Wood.

[cphubb]

Autodesk needs to make it clear that your default library paths must point to your local library for this to install correctly. Of course, this really only needs to happen on one machine, so that the content can be copied to the centrally-stored library. Then it shouldn't matter if the content installs on the other machines in the office.

As for the wood framing walls, besides being pretty much useless in our office environment, you have to go to Materials and under the Physical tab for whatever material you use for the wood stud layer, and change the Material Type to Wood.

So there is no location to download the new content by itself? Does anybody use the default location for content? Too hard to find. We use c:\RAC2010 or a network location

[patricks]

So there is no location to download the new content by itself? Does anybody use the default location for content? Too hard to find. We use c:\RAC2010 or a network location

I mean whatever the location your local content is stored.

My home machine has the OOTB content installed on my 1TB D drive, while the program is on the 250 GB C drive. I specified that location on the D drive when I first installed Revit. When I installed the SAP on that machine, everything installed perfectly.

When I changed my work machine's default library location back to that of my local OOTB library in Docs & Settings, it also installed fine.

[Wes Macaulay]

I have a custom path on my laptop to the Revit content (C:\Revit Content\Revit 2010 Content) -- so the SP3 installer ran with whatever I had in my .ini file and away it went; it worked just great. That's probably the way to go -- just the content out of a local install and copy it to your network location.

[patricks]

I have a custom path on my laptop to the Revit content (C:\Revit Content\Revit 2010 Content) -- so the SP3 installer ran with whatever I had in my .ini file and away it went; it worked just great. That's probably the way to go -- just the content out of a local install and copy it to your network location.

Correct, but everyone in our office has the default library location pointing to our server. Someone has to change to the local library before it will install correctly. And that someone was me lol.

[BecFra]

So is there an easy way to get all your old keyboard shortcuts in the .txt file to the new UI for keyboard shortcuts?

[scott.latch]

We are still investigating the content installation problem. For those havng a problem, you can download the content from:
http://revit.downloads.autodesk.com/download/2010_Q3/ContentENU/NAImperial.cab
http://revit.downloads.autodesk.com/download/2010_Q3/ContentENU/NAImperialTempl.cab

[brethomp]

So is there an easy way to get all your old keyboard shortcuts in the .txt file to the new UI for keyboard shortcuts?The Import button will allow you to import the old txt file.

[andrew.parrella]

I have these folders, but there is no new content in them. Everything in these folders is dated March 2009, which I suspect are the original families from the initial April release.[/QUOTE]

Right, the _SP3 folders contain the OLD content, not the updated content.

[cphubb]

The Import button will allow you to import the old txt file.

Really?

Mine said .xml only

[brethomp]

Really?

Mine said .xml onlyFiles of type pull-down list at the bottom of the dialog has 3 choices.

[andrew.parrella]

Regarding the issue people are having with the update of content - Let me see if I understand the problem. Is this right?

1.Install Revit RTM from deployment with content on network
2.Run service pack on client machine(s)
3.Revit is updated but content is not.

If that is true, then this is what you do (I just confirmed this works):

At the command prompt of an updated machine, run the service pack .exe with the /rc flag. For example:
"C:\Program Files\Autodesk Revit Architecture 2010\Program\Autodesk_Revit_Structure_2010_Subscription_Update_x86_ENU.EXE /rc"

This will look at the local Revit.ini and use that to determine where the content is located. You will see the content loader fire up and update the network content. Note that you don't need to have any content loaded locally for this to work. Note also that this will NOT apply the service pack to the local machine.

I understand that there can be other issues - such as deleted signature files, etc. which prevent this system working. In that case, reinstalling the RTM and then running the service pack should work. (I appreciate that is not trivial for some.) If all else fails, you can download content manually from the links Scott Latch posted earlier in this thread.

I hope that helps?

Andy

[Alan aka cadalot]

We are still investigating the content installation problem. For those havng a problem, you can download the content from:
http://revit.downloads.autodesk.com/download/2010_Q3/ContentENU/NAImperial.cab
http://revit.downloads.autodesk.com/download/2010_Q3/ContentENU/NAImperialTempl.cab

Scott ~ Can you provide links like above for Metric UK content for RST 2010?

As I posted earlier we have 3 offices that all look at their local server for the Metric Library. I tried the switch thing on a pervious install but it never worked in the end.

I had to install at home on a stand alone pc and then copy onto a flash drive to update the Metric Library on our office server.

On a Sunday the other two offices are automatically updated with what ever is new in our Metric Library.

It would be better if you could give an option that just installs the updated and new material to a specific drive. Even if this runs as a separate application from the main update.

Having a Metric Library SP_3 that contains superseded material is not what we need for the future, that’s an archive file.(It’s only use for me is to tell me what to go and copy from my hard disk onto the flash drive)

We need the ability to have a SP_3New file created somewhere as a separate operation to make things simple.


Also you guys are extremely poor in documenting why you have updated content.

What was wrong with the pervious content, what has been fixed, are there any concerns that we should have if we are not using the current content in a project in progress.

[trombe]

FWIW.

I downloaded the upgrade file and installed it again over the top of the existing stand alone 2010 x64 WU-2 + SP3 install.
The Type selector header has now changed but there are no other changes so assume that is it.
There are no structural decks of any type for Timber, Steel or Concrete either in SP3 folders or Metric Library anywhere.
The Span Direction Symbol content / family, is still missing from the folders but now, there is a tab on the Ribbon showing the tools..but they won't work.

The Wood Framing tool is still missing.
Keyboard Shortcut Editor works well - good job for my needs.

maybe another day.
trombe

[priitl22047477]

Links to Subscription Advantage Packs have disappeared from my subscription site.
Do you still have it?

[ws]

Something has changed... can't see the links that were there before certainly.

[narlee]

WOW! This looks fantastic - wish 2010 was working for me...



Well Boys and Girls following on from the video conference between Active Bloggers and the Revit Product team, I’ve just attended here are the highlights of what is going to be included in the Subscription Advantage Pack for Revit 2010.

Rather than releasing separate extensions like they have done in the past, Autodesk have bundled these all up as a complete release with a number of new features which is due October 22 (2 Days time if all goes well)

improvements include:-

Enable shortcuts for additional commands
Additional shortcut commands
A new UI to control the shortcuts
Conditional formatting in all products
DWG export improvements
Text formatting – from shortcuts
Find and replace text
Model lines to Detail lines and back
Link file improvements
API improvements
Autodesk Revit Model Review
Revit DBlink
Image modeler will now be included so you can create point cloud data from images and
export this to DWG and import this into Revit
Wood Wall Framing tool

Revit Architecture gets all the features they wanted from a Revit Structure Port:

Curved beams
Beam copping
Create Trusses
Tag beam systems
Slab directions and decking
Slanted columns
Split with Gap
Revit Structure advantage features will also include:-

Insulation tool
Placing 3d beams from geometry references in imported 3d drawings
Control beam length tolerance
Wood Framing
Interferences of Reinforcing bars
Bridge Design Modules
"A" ansd "W" User defined parameters to be available in Schedule Field
Placing 3D beams from geometry references in imported 3D drawings
Countrification Content for China, Russia and Italy
ADS now available in 64 bit
Structure Extensions

Wood Framing
Interference of Reinforcing Bars
Bridge Design Modules
Revit MEP advantages features will also include:-


Temporary dimensions in layout mode
MEP performance improvements
Content Countrification for China, Russia,UK, International
New Electrical content for the US to be available as download from Subsription Centre
Communications, Fire Safety, Security, Data, Nurse Call, Power.
So who was there in no particular order:-

Autodesk:- Wai Chu ~ Revit Structure Product Manager, Anthony Hauck ~ BIM Design Product Line Manager, Scott Latch ~ Revit Architecture Product Manager, Richard Taylor ~ Platform Feature Product Manager, David Pothier ~ Revit MEP Product Manager, Betsy Werra, Armundo Darling & David Mills


Bloggers:- David Harrington, Gregory Arkin, Jeffrey Pinheiro (aka The revit Kid), James Van, David Light, Richard Taylor, Robert Manna, Kelcey Lemon, Robin Capper and Yours Truly.

Sorry if I missed anyone.....

Great Event can't wait to get my grubby little hands on the software

For screen shots of new features see http://bimboom.blogspot.com/2009/10/...ck-photos.html
__________________

[Alan aka cadalot]

Something has changed... can't see the links that were there before certainly.

Here is a cross posting from the Structures thread


Hi All,

I would like to give you an update on this issue. We have found a fix and we are currently testing it, so we will have a new build shortly and re-post it on the Subscription Center very soon. I will let you know (in AUGI and my BIM & BEAM Blog) immediately when it will be ready for download.

Just want to give you some background and more visibility about this problem:

This issue occurs for Revit Structure product only (so RAC and RME users are not affected) and this affects mainly UK install (big sorry and apology on my part to UK users...) In fact, in Revit Structure, we have two different English:

1) ENU which is mainly for USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, etc.
2) ENG which is mainly for UK, because in RST2010 we have translate some structural usage terminology (primary beam/secondary beam/notching instead of girder/joist/coping, etc.) after I got some feedbacks from UK customers.

The current Subscription Advantage Pack can install with ENU setting successully, but will fail with the ENG setting. This is what our team is currently trying to fix.

Again ,sorry for all the inconveniences. Please feel free to contact me directly if you have other concern: wai.chu@autodesk.com

Best Regards,

Wai

[kyle.bernhardt]

WOW! This looks fantastic - wish 2010 was working for me...

Note that Autodesk Revit Model Review can be installed on Revit 2009 if that's what you're using.

Cheers,
Kyle B

[patricks]

The Type Selector drop down for Lines, both model and drafting, is still the same size as before - not the new and improved large size that we get for other model elements.

Just wanted to throw that out there.

[twiceroadsfool]

I gotta say three funny things about the new type selector:

1. I never realized how much faster i COULD get stuff if it was a "big ol' button" like that. I can zip right to it much quicker.

2. Now that i can get there with the mouse moving that much faster, i find myself still waiting for it to roll out, when the mouse is already on the selection.

3. Because of number 2, ive officially changed my mind on the "most recently used" area. Now i love it, LOL.

All in all, good stuff...

[Martin P]

May have been covered already? But a quick question....... Can you now access edit sketch (for whatever, walls, floors, filled regions etc etc ), finish sketch and quit sketch via keyboard shortcuts?

I may install this now if possible to so.

[timothy.bungert]

New Electrical content for the US to be available as download from Subsription Centre
Communications, Fire Safety, Security, Data, Nurse Call, Power.

__________________


Can't seem to find these anywhere after installation of the SAP. Not on the central server library, not on any local machine....same problem as we had with the Architecture SAP families for trusses and decking? Factory Guys: how/where can I get this new content?

[patricks]

Can't seem to find these anywhere after installation of the SAP. Not on the central server library, not on any local machine....same problem as we had with the Architecture SAP families for trusses and decking? Factory Guys: how/where can I get this new content?

Where did you hear that? I did not read anything in Autodesk's documentation of this update to include any MEP-related additions to RAC2010. It's mostly structural improvements.

[kyle.bernhardt]

Where did you hear that? I did not read anything in Autodesk's documentation of this update to include any MEP-related additions to RAC2010. It's mostly structural improvements.

Conditional Formatting was previously an MEP-specific feature. The other items listed were Family files delivered to Revit MEP users, AFAIK.

Cheers,
Kyle B

[kyle.bernhardt]

All,
On a slight tangent from this current discussion on this thread, we have started a new thread (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=109565) on the Revit Model Review Plug-in over on the Revit Platfom Forum, specifically for feedback on that tool.

I welcome all of you interested to weigh in with your feedback on that tool. We're currently identifying areas for improvement for a planned future release, and would really like to consider your ideas.

Cheers,
Kyle B

[timothy.bungert]

Where did you hear that? I did not read anything in Autodesk's documentation of this update to include any MEP-related additions to RAC2010. It's mostly structural improvements.

I had seen it posted by some of the bloggers who attended the webcast presented by Autodesk prior to the release of the SAPs. We have both RAC and MEP in our office and have installed the SAPs for both. I'm not entirely sure that there actually are new families coming, but I read it here (http://cadalot-revitlearningcurve.blogspot.com/2009/10/subscription-advantage-pack-for-revit.html), here (http://autodesk-revit.blogspot.com/2009/10/revit-aec-blogger-day-revit-2010-subs.html), and here (http://bimboom.blogspot.com/2009/10/revit-advantage-packs-about-to-be.html). It is listed near the bottom of each of these posts.

130 new electrical families would be welcomed by MEP users, as the lack of existing components for the electrical discipline is one of MEP's biggest shortcomings.

EDIT: The new MEP families are likely supposed to be a part of the MEP 2010 SAP, but I posted it here because there seems to be very little discussion about the new SAPs in the Revit MEP forum next door. I figured it may be the same problem as the "missing" trusses and deck from the RAC 2010 pack.

[darwin]

We are still investigating the content installation problem. For those havng a problem, you can download the content from:
http://revit.downloads.autodesk.com/download/2010_Q3/ContentENU/NAImperial.cab
http://revit.downloads.autodesk.com/download/2010_Q3/ContentENU/NAImperialTempl.cab

what about Metric files?

[vennix]

Help,
I have been on holiday last week.
At this moment I cannot see the advantage pack on the subscription pages. Where has it gone. I want to play with new toys too.:(

Geert

[scott.latch]

what about Metric files?


Sorry about forgetting the metric files. Rather than posting a link to every CAB (because there are many of them), I recommend going here (http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/item?siteID=123112&id=12827697) to get the CAB name.

You can then use this path to download the desired content: "http://revit.downloads.autodesk.com/download/2010_Q3/ContentENU/[CAB_NAME]"

Note: Not all of the CABs are available for the SAP because we are in the process of localizing the release. More CABs will become available when the localized versions are available. All of the English content should be available. If it is not please PM me and I will see why it is not there.

[darwin]

Sorry about forgetting the metric files. Rather than posting a link to every CAB (because there are many of them), I recommend going here (http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/item?siteID=123112&id=12827697) to get the CAB name.

You can then use this path to download the desired content: "http://revit.downloads.autodesk.com/download/2010_Q3/ContentENU/[CAB_NAME]"

Note: Not all of the CABs are available for the SAP because we are in the process of localizing the release. More CABs will become available when the localized versions are available. All of the English content should be available. If it is not please PM me and I will see why it is not there.

Thanks for tip, Scott.

The IntMetTempl.cab is downloaded, but the IntMet.cab is missing

D.

[charliep]

Can't find Subscription Advantage Pack for Revit anywhere on the subscription site.

[charliep]

Just got this:-

" We know that the advertising is already published on Subscription Center. However the advantage pack will be available only on the 23rd of November 2009.

We are really sorry for the confusion.

Have a good day!

Best Regards,
Kelly Hauser
Autodesk Business Center"

[Steven Campbell]

Thanks for tip, Scott.

The IntMetTempl.cab is downloaded, but the IntMet.cab is missing

D.
Not sure why but that one has a different path.
Try http://revit.downloads.autodesk.com/download/2010_Q3/ContentAll/IntMet.cab"

Steve

[mrice.47661]

Maybe I'm just dense and haven't been able to see it somewhere along the way ... but is the Image Modeler download that was included as part of the Subscription Package only a demo version? Or do we activate it with our Revit serial number? Or is there some mysterious serial number included in some of the documentation somewhere.

Just trying to get a sense of how functional it is.

Thanks in advance.

[mrice.47661]

Ah of course - who would ever think to look in the readme file. :)

Thanks very much.

[david.mills]

Hi,

The Image Modeler serial numbers and product key can be found on the Image Modeler download page (inside the Subscription Center).

-Dave Mills
Autodesk Marketing

[vgonzales]

The Import button will allow you to import the old txt file.

There is no command for Isolate Element in the Keyboard Shortcuts but the text file has it under View Control Bar. Why is there no option to create a shortcut for Isolate Elements but Isolate Category is present. My old keyboard shortcut for Isolate Element is "HI".

[narlee]

May have been covered already? But a quick question....... Can you now access edit sketch (for whatever, walls, floors, filled regions etc etc ), finish sketch and quit sketch via keyboard shortcuts?

I may install this now if possible to so.

OMG, Martin! I believe you/me/we have been asking for that since Revit 2.0!!! Too funny.

[vennix]

Hello fellow Europeans,

I just noticed that the subscription advantage pack is again accessible through the subscription center icon within revit.
It has been away for a while :-(

Geert

[rhys]

Hello fellow Europeans,

I just noticed that the subscription advantage pack is again accessible through the subscription center icon within revit.
It has been away for a while :-(

Geert
I can't see it - fortunately I installed before it was pulled without warning or explanation.
UK Subscription customers treated poorly yet again. Thought Autodesk had learnt their lesson on that one back at v9.1!!

[myBIMhero]

I must be missing something!! Love some some fo the new features but.........

1.Why doesn't conditional formatting show up on the schedule when placed on a sheet? Wouldnt you want the formatting to make something stand out? Makes no sense to see it in the schedule view only!

2.I cannot see how to change between model and detail lines. There is a check box under instance properties but it is greyed out. Very odd.

3.Where are the trusses???? I want to try out the truss tool!! After making 3 different ones as generic families.


THANKS!!

[Phillip_Miller]

I must be missing something!! Love some some fo the new features but.........

1.Why doesn't conditional formatting show up on the schedule when placed on a sheet? Wouldnt you want the formatting to make something stand out? Makes no sense to see it in the schedule view only!

2.I cannot see how to change between model and detail lines. There is a check box under instance properties but it is greyed out. Very odd.

3.Where are the trusses???? I want to try out the truss tool!! After making 3 different ones as generic families.


THANKS!!

I can answer number 2. Select a detail line and on the ribbon pannel "modify Lines" you will notice a button that now says "convert lines"

Cheers

Phillip

[CADMama]

Anyone else get the Home tab moved to the middle of the pack???

I don't know how it ended up there and I certainly don't know how to get it back.

OH - of course - if I post something I will figure out how to fix it within just a minute.

Pick holding the ctrl key - move tabs.

[niki_funky]

Anyone else get the Home tab moved to the middle of the pack???

I don't know how it ended up there and I certainly don't know how to get it back.

OH - of course - if I post something I will figure out how to fix it within just a minute.

Pick holding the ctrl key - move tabs.
It's a known problem. Go to Autodesk site and look for solution, how to reset Revit's Ribbon UI. As I remember you should delete 1 file and 1 registry.

best regards

[CADMama]

It's a known problem. Go to Autodesk site and look for solution, how to reset Revit's Ribbon UI. As I remember you should delete 1 file and 1 registry.

best regards

Niki - go back and look - I edited that post - I found the answer within minutes of posting that.

Holding the CTRL key pick on a tab and just haul it off whereever you want it to go!

My Home is back where it should be.

[ruthellenwilliams]

I installed the Subscription Advantage Pack before trying to install Web Update 2. The web update won't install now. Are those functions included in the advantage pack, or am I doomed to be missing something until the next release?

[timothy.bungert]

I installed the Subscription Advantage Pack before trying to install Web Update 2. The web update won't install now. Are those functions included in the advantage pack, or am I doomed to be missing something until the next release?

I believe that the Advantage Pack includes Update 2 plus all of the other goodies, so you should be caught up on all updates now.

[travismv702230]

I installed the Subscription Advantage Pack before trying to install Web Update 2. The web update won't install now. Are those functions included in the advantage pack, or am I doomed to be missing something until the next release?

I believe that WU2 was included in the Subscription Advantage Pack.

[ruthellenwilliams]

That's what I wanted to hear! Thanks!

[varvasmartin]

Just got this:-

" We know that the advertising is already published on Subscription Center. However the advantage pack will be available only on the 23rd of November 2009.

We are really sorry for the confusion.

Have a good day!

Best Regards,
Kelly Hauser
Autodesk Business Center"

Could someone in Autodesk add a little notification about the delay of Advancement Packs to the sticky of this forum, to the subscription centre and here: http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/pc/item?siteID=123112&id=13917215

I just spent 1,5h desperately looking for them until I found this topic...

[DaveP]

Simple little fix that should improve usability and hopefully performance. I like it.

One thing that had bothered me about the original Ribbon Type Selector was that it changed size. It took me a while to even figure out what the problem was, but the Type Selector used to get wider when the Type selected had a long name. The button itself grew and thus shifted everything to the right of it.

With the SAP, not only do we get the nice huge button, but it keeps a consistent size.
Much nicer.

[polyporter]

I just wanted to thank all those that contributed to this thread, really helped and now our subscription pack is working properly. Thanks

[polyporter]

One thing that I thought about today was in regards to implementing the truss feature significantlt in future porojects. My question is this:

Should we consider the roofs and floors as only sublayers and finishes without structure since we can actually model the trusses that make up the structure layer?

Before we use to assign a structure layer, give it a thickness, assign a material which is the default revit structure materials, and go with that.

So now our floor then would just be the subflooring and the finish right? Or should we just stick with how we've done it in the past and just keynote what the floors are actually created from and retaining the structure layer?

[cphubb]

One thing that I thought about today was in regards to implementing the truss feature significantlt in future porojects. My question is this:

Should we consider the roofs and floors as only sublayers and finishes without structure since we can actually model the trusses that make up the structure layer?

Before we use to assign a structure layer, give it a thickness, assign a material which is the default revit structure materials, and go with that.

So now our floor then would just be the subflooring and the finish right? Or should we just stick with how we've done it in the past and just keynote what the floors are actually created from and retaining the structure layer?

Yes that is the correct way to model. During early phases we sometimes use the structural layer to reserve space for the structure. This works well in floors where the floor thickness moves UP. However we need to offset our roofs by the distance we removed because the roof moves down. The important part is that someone looks at the location to be able to set the deck correctly.

BTW if you are working with a Structural Engineer in Revit your roofs and floors will be finish and substrate only. Struct has the decking.

[Damo]

The UK Content Extension for Autodesk® Revit® MEP 2010 software provides new content to help .... electrical engineers, drafters, create electrical designs and layouts for projects in the United Kingdom. Contents include .... electrical devices based on UK industry standard symbology.... This extension provides both UK users and those adhering to UK standards with new content based on these industry standards. Can anyone tell me whether the basic UK electrical symbols, now available in MEP, and which architects use a lot to annotate their domestic electrical layout drawings, will now become available for Revit Architecture? I don't need all the new MEP UK ducting or advanced UK electrical plant, just the basic power outlets, switches etc.

[ws]

I also wondered this.

I'll try asking my reseller anyway - you never know ;)

[MTristram]

This may have already been asked and answered, but is there any easy way of exporting the keyboard shortcuts to a txt file instead of xml?

[sfaust]

I doubt it because the keyboard shortcuts aren't text anymore, they are xml in order to allow access to a lot more capabilities (like using ctrl, shift, etc).

[trombe]

Could someone in Autodesk add a little notification about the delay of Advancement Packs to the sticky of this forum, to the subscription centre and here: http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/pc/item?siteID=123112&id=13917215

I just spent 1,5h desperately looking for them until I found this topic...


sub advan pack (note the "lower" case used here) ......it didn't work for me when it was released, the beam tag was missing, the wood / stick framing applet wasn't there either (at least) although the keyboard shortcut amendment worked OK.
I thought it was a cruel joke in the end even though they said to have fixed it later and actually lost interest real fast and have not done anything more to establish if it is even worth pursuing after all the fuss.
( that would be just more time on top of the last lot and little benefit) ....it will all be in the next release in April or whenever and I can do without it..although, if they actually make it so PDF writing is fixed properly...........I will do it in an instant.
trombe

[cadclips]

I have written up a quick review on the Wood Framing Walls Extension here > http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=114191&highlight=kids

[Gadget Man]

...I thought it was a cruel joke in the end even though they said to have fixed it later and actually lost interest real fast and have not done anything more to establish if it is even worth pursuing after all the fuss...

I couldn't agree with you more...

The whole RAC 2010 is a cruel joke and a broad light highway robbery IMHO...

[dpasa]

I couldn't agree with you more...

The whole RAC 2010 is a cruel joke and a broad light highway robbery IMHO...

But, I guess with the new ugrade policy (50% of the price) you will go for the subscription again.... As I will too... As most of us here...

[Gadget Man]

But, I guess with the new ugrade policy (50% of the price) you will go for the subscription again.... As I will too... As most of us here...

Well... unless I skip several so-called "upgrades" and simply purchase a new licence when it's actually much improved version few years down the track, I don't have any choice, really... But it doesn't mean that I can't say what I think about Autodesk and "businesses" like that...

In fact, this new policy is even more reason why just a thought of Autodesk makes my pocket knife open by itself in my pocket... Dangerous...

[MTristram]

I doubt it because the keyboard shortcuts aren't text anymore, they are xml in order to allow access to a lot more capabilities (like using ctrl, shift, etc).

If the subscription advantage pack isn't installed on all users' pc's are they still able to read the new xml format for keyboard shortcuts?
Not sure I'm too keen on every user being able to amend/alter shortcuts - we prefer an office wide standard..

[yanyan77]

could you tell me where to download this package?
I really want the find and replace tool

[Scott D Davis]

could you tell me where to download this package?
I really want the find and replace tool

It's included in Revit 2011

[jcoe]

I really want the find and replace tool

It isn't just the find and replace tool. With the subscription advantage pack, now when you select a line you get an option to "Convert Lines". With this you can convert model lines to detail lines and visa versa.

[cphubb]

could you tell me where to download this package?
I really want the find and replace tool

It is on your subscription page

[yanyan77]

It's included in Revit 2011

my office still uses 2010

[cphubb]

my office still uses 2010

2011 is not even released so 2010 is the only CURRENT option. Look in the downloads section of your subscription page