Why

[krlee_399]

Hi,

I'm still struggling with the concept of using revit and asd together.....ok so I create a steel model in revit (without any connections), them export to asd to detail up ie connections etc, but then when I export back to revit all the connections are missing....my engineer cannot then check my model in fasttrak (cxl files) for 100% efficiency as the whole model is not there....so why am I using revit?....going back and thro to each program to me does'nt seem to be a work smart approach to me

For me ASD is the one to use and I'm still questioning why we use Revit,

[krlee_399]

Thanks for the umpteen replies guys

[klausstroehl]

As long as the Revit-Platform does not contain decent detailing abilities, you do probably have to accept that Revit is a tool for modelling (fast and efficiently ;-) ) the base structure. Lots of Revit-Users really enjoy modelling with Revit. At the end of this process you just have to leave the Revit-Patform until Autodesk finally launches it´s Revit-detailing-module. Sad but true!
So if your modelling can be done with different software almost as efficiently as with Revit, there really is no point in using Revit except of speculating on a Revit-Detailing module soon ;-)!

[tedg]

* crickets *


Thanks for the umpteen replies guys

:lol:

sorry I wish I could help you.
Interesting thread tho.. we will be getting into Revit Structure soon, just to jump on the BIM train.
I'll be in here asking allot of questions my self.

:beer:

[david_peterson]

Here's the other screwing thing with ASD, it's one and done process.
After you export to be able to create the details, if you change the beam size or location, you get to start over.

[krlee_399]

As long as the Revit-Platform does not contain decent detailing abilities, you do probably have to accept that Revit is a tool for modelling (fast and efficiently ;-) ) the base structure. Lots of Revit-Users really enjoy modelling with Revit. At the end of this process you just have to leave the Revit-Patform until Autodesk finally launches it´s Revit-detailing-module. Sad but true!
So if your modelling can be done with different software almost as efficiently as with Revit, there really is no point in using Revit except of speculating on a Revit-Detailing module soon ;-)!

This is the answer I was looking for....thanks....until revit detailing is up to scratch then I think I'll leave it alone, and maybe use it for concrete only as I find the concrete detailing on there quite good (altho there are others out there and I use 2 of them already).... just needed this confirming instead of thinking I was doing something terribly wrong

Thanks again and sorry if the post was'nt too clear, I realise that my question was'nt the clearest

I really hope that Autodesk sort revit out as it is a good draughting tool, for me tho its just not quite there.

[Craig_L]

I dont agree.
Revit is quick and easy for detailing, you just need to make the switch, and get yourself some nice looking detail items. Detail items are essentially blocks which you insert in place of (for example) a wall. I find the text snaps, and the fact that half of the items are already drawn, make detailing alot easier. Also some of the other features like the dimensions which show up as you grip and drag a line, etc etc make detailing much quicker and easier than in CAD.

Here are some details done using revit which took me half the time it would have taken me in CAD.

[lucis29]

Still the same question here: Why should anybody learn Revit when you have ASD Formwork or Steel?

I'm still asking this question for 3 months now, and cant figure any answer. Usually people are proficient in using CAD, so ASD should be an AutoCad on steroids. To bad is not very stable.

karalon10:

Are those details made in 2d?

[krlee_399]

Still the same question here: Why should anybody learn Revit when you have ASD Formwork or Steel?

I'm still asking this question for 3 months now, and cant figure any answer. Usually people are proficient in using CAD, so ASD should be an AutoCad on steroids. To bad is not very stable.


Are those details made in 2d?

Lucis, I was struggling with the question I posted and to be honest still am, I still feel no need to use revit for any of my projects even after an advanced course because as a civil/structural cad designer I feel the drawings revit produce are no where near what I want them to be....I add my own style to all cad programs but with revit being almost "automatic" I feel the drawings it produces look basic and not what the site lads want..

I suppose I'll have to turn to the dark side soon tho as revit will take over acad eventually (much to my dissappointment)

Keep us posted to how you go on with revit

[lucis29]

I don't deny that using Revit seems a little faster to draw. But what can you do with the drawings?
You can export them to Robot, but you have to modify a lot of things to make the model behave like it should (maybe the same amount of time needed to build it from scratch).
Also when you export the Revit model to ASD you have to do a lot of adjustments (axes, levels, beams and columns). I am just at the begining, but I really need a strong reason to continue with Revit.
I hope someone on AUGI will show me the light.

Have a good day.

[kathy71046]

I use Revit for my Structural Drawings, but if I have the drawings supplied, I simply do the model straight in ASD.

If you are only detailing, I wouldn't bother trying to do the model in Revit first, as it's a waste of time.