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Henry D
2004-12-06, 12:36 PM
I had never used SketchUp, this only took 45 minutes to streamline the Revit model (purge, delete interior walls..etc), export to DXF, import DXF into SketchUp, learn relevant SketchUp commands, position my model, shadow settings, etc...and there it was my house model in SketchUp!

Martin P
2004-12-06, 01:03 PM
It would be interesting to see the same Revit 7.0 view with shadows and override silhoutes switched on.... though you wont get the overlapped lines at corners with revit, do you think it is worth the extra effort to get those? I have a lisp routinge for autocad called freehand we have used in the past - which does this overlapping at corners and wibbles the lines etc... I cant see us using it much now though with the shadows etc in Revit.

Roger Evans
2004-12-06, 01:05 PM
Nice feel to this I like it .. but curious to know where is the real advantage? over say 3d view non rendered or even producing rendered accurender?

BillyGrey
2004-12-06, 08:33 PM
One advantage I know of right off the bat is that SU renders look cool IMO, and clientele I have shared them with love them. They work.

Nice that Revit is moving into that area with shadows. Next, overshoot lines, then export to Epix, and SU is history for me.

BillyGrey
2004-12-06, 08:34 PM
Oh yea Henry, nice bungalow :)

Roger Evans
2004-12-06, 08:53 PM
I can agree totally that clients respond more favourably to hand drawn sketches (real or false) but it would still be nice to see direct comparison with what can now be done in revit 7 ~ same view etc

Cheers

Henry D
2004-12-28, 10:27 PM
Thanks for all your comments. Well, I liked the little Sketchup drawing but my lady client liked a colored rendering better (she wants a pink house with a gold roof!...well as they say..."different strokes for different folks"). Here is the same view rendered.

SkiSouth
2004-12-28, 10:49 PM
Henry, will you do the hidden line with shadows for a comparison as has been suggested. Would really like to see a direct comparison with sketchup. I find it not time effective to switch, but really would like to see the two side by side. (your su vs 70 rendering)

Henry D
2004-12-28, 11:05 PM
OK..this is it. no extra work very fast. Yes I'm not sure it's worth the extra effort to export to Sketchup.


PS Ski...I'm still keen on doing your tutorial..I just haven't had time.

beegee
2004-12-28, 11:20 PM
I like the fact that Revit has produced shadows on the interior wall faces, thus adding a better feel for depth.

SketchUp doesn't do that ?

Roger Evans
2004-12-28, 11:34 PM
Like the comparison ~ not much to choose between the sketch up version & the Revit 7 last one & I actually prefer both to the rendered version

Here's a scribbled hand coloured version

BG ~ the internal walls were deleted for import to sketch up (don't know why though)

Thomas Cummings
2004-12-29, 12:29 AM
Nice Images!

I would add, for those who do not already know, that SketchUp is the gateway to Piranesi for Revit.

Here is a SketchUp model exported to Piranesi for a pen and ink/ color wash effect.

Happy New Year!

Dimitri Harvalias
2004-12-29, 01:48 AM
It does do that Beegee, but only if you assign a transparent material to the window. I assume that the other model taken and dumped into SU didn't have any materials assigned. You can also control which faces will cast and receive shadows.

beegee
2004-12-29, 02:13 AM
So, if you need to spend time assigning materials prior to export to SU, then Revit's shadows would seem a better way to go ?

SkiSouth
2004-12-29, 02:34 AM
OK..this is it. no extra work very fast. Yes I'm not sure it's worth the extra effort to export to Sketchup.


PS Ski...I'm still keen on doing your tutorial..I just haven't had time.

Definitely a nice bungalow. couldn't resist though. A quick run through Photoshop doesn't
really enhance your presentation. I was just goofing off. I like the Black and White (like you have it) better..

Roger Evans
2004-12-29, 03:47 AM
Ski can you alter the direction lines in the shadow in Pshop? ~ they always look better when coming from apparent light source

I've tried playing again ~ Here's the pencil given oil paint in MGI Photosuite ~ It would be nice to be able to overlay a sharp image over ~ also I think Clapboard lines on Henry's original would have improved it

SkiSouth
2004-12-29, 11:40 AM
Ski can you alter the direction lines in the shadow in Pshop? ~ they always look better when coming from apparent light source



My lazy streak coming out again. Yes, depending on which filter you use, you can change the direction lines. I just took that last setting I had used. Once again, justa lazy ole' dog.. NIce images. I agree, needs some clean edges over the effect.

Roger Evans
2004-12-29, 01:18 PM
Occurred to me later that I could just select panels for individual paint effect treatment
so front entrance section remains sharper

Would not like to do this wholescale as too time consuming but its nice to know something can be done ~ not too bad for a very cheap paint program

SkiSouth
2004-12-29, 01:28 PM
way to go - Very nice indeed.

Henry D
2004-12-31, 06:18 PM
That does it ...from now on I'm just going sit back and to get you guys to do my work for me!

Very nice...thanks for showing me all these different presentation approaches.

SkiSouth
2004-12-31, 07:32 PM
Don't count on it. Like I said, I still like the b&W you did..