Revit 2011 - Bug Reports

[Matt Brennan]

Hey Everyone,

I don't know if this thread has been already started but let's start a post in which we place all bugs in this one post for the new Revit 2011.

Things appear to be so far, so good here. Thoughts anyone?

[dzatto]

Hey Everyone,

I don't know if this thread has been already started but let's start a post in which we place all bugs in this one post for the new Revit 2011.

Things appear to be so far, so good here. Thoughts anyone?
Dude! You just jinxed it. Way to go. :mrgreen:

[cliff collins]

The 1st bug I have to report.................

see attached


cheers

[dzatto]

I must spread some rep around before giving it to Cliff Collins again.

Oh well, I tried. lol

[Paul Monsef]

The 1st bug I have to report.................

see attached


cheers
Ahh you beat me...

EDIT: It's kinda a pain to find the green check to finish an inplace family (it disappears). When I added the BUG as a linked DWG, the bug had to actually be selected to see the "Finish Model" button.
Seems to happen when switching views while editing.

[Munkholm]

Paul !

You have WAY too much spare time on your hands ! :-) And let´s hope, that those kinda bugs will stay at your place ;-)

[jzee.101345]

1. Type properties panel often has to be scrolled horizontally with no reason for that.
2. Dont know if it is issue of Revit or Max 2011 but during fbx export some Autodesk material properties do not retain. For example transparancy and reflectivity for glazing.

[Phil Read]

Envoking ambient lighting in virtualization locks up both guest and host os. Nasty. I've had an app lock the Guest OS. This requires a hard reboot. Ouch.

[Phil Read]

Undocked panels reset into the dock upon Finish Sketch. Angry Drunken Leprechean. ;)

[AP23]

Dude, you need a Dell (not a fruit).

[Lashers]

Paul, That's not a Bug! Its a feature!

[arqt49]

As some of you, I have started working in the new RAC2011.
I was editing a group, and I connot find the old Edit group tab in the ribbon.
So, I opened RAC2010 and found out that the shortcut is FG, and that did the finish group command.
But the edit group tab still isn't showing.
Am I missing something?

[cliff collins]

I hope you mean Revit 2011?

[arqt49]

Yes, cliff. I meant 2011. Just corrected the post :P
But about what I just wrote,do you see that tab?

[Paul Monsef]

Maybe Al should be the new mascott for the ribbon in Revit 2011? Everytime I report a ribbon bug, Al is stuck on the side of my building.

[jeffh]

Yes, cliff. I meant 2011. Just corrected the post :P
But about what I just wrote,do you see that tab?

When editing a group in 2011 the defult is for the edit group ribbon pannel to be "torn off" of the Ribbon and placed in the upper left corner of the canvas. This can be dragged and positioned elsewhere on the screen. Perhaps it is opening off screen somewhere, or positioned where you are not seeing it?

[DaveP]

. Angry Drunken Leprechean. ;)
Hey, Phil!
I've been wondering what your impression of the "New! Improved!" Ribbon would be.

I was hoping for maybe Sober Leprechaun, or at least Hungover Leprechaun.

[arqt49]

When editing a group in 2011 the defult is for the edit group ribbon pannel to be "torn off" of the Ribbon and placed in the upper left corner of the canvas. This can be dragged and positioned elsewhere on the screen. Perhaps it is opening off screen somewhere, or positioned where you are not seeing it?

Just created a new project and edit a group.
The edit group ribbon is there.
But not in the project I am working on and just upgraded from RAC2010.

Edit1: Forget it. I just went back to the upgraded project and the group now is there.
Magic?

Edit 2: First crash!

[twiceroadsfool]

Were experiencing a pretty big bug with content that has Instance yes/no parameters, which are driving formulas in the Family. Changing the value of the parameter in the project environment causes Revit to go wild, and you can no longer see your selection window. Sometimes clicking soemthing else or tabbing to another opened project alleviates the display issue, but it PUTS THE PARAMETER BACK to the other value.

Its very strange, but weve made the Factory aware. Will post updates as we get them. Unfortunately for us, that means a great deal of our library cannot be used, ergo we cannot upgrade right now.

EDIT: This only happens with using the Properties palette and then clicking back to the modeling window. if you use the apply button, it doesnt happen and Revit behaves as normal. Kudos to Robert Manna for the find. :)

[dzatto]

1. Type properties panel often has to be scrolled horizontally with no reason for that.
2. Dont know if it is issue of Revit or Max 2011 but during fbx export some Autodesk material properties do not retain. For example transparancy and reflectivity for glazing.
I found this on the new features site:

Increased interoperability with 3ds Max through:

Export of FBX files to Max with Protein 2 appearances
Import of DWG files and ADSK files with Protein 2 appearancesNote3ds Max/Design 2011 is required for materials to transfer.

[Phil Read]

Hey, Phil!
I've been wondering what your impression of the "New! Improved!" Ribbon would be.

I was hoping for maybe Sober Leprechaun, or at least Hungover Leprechaun.

Sober Leprechaun Mode. Terrific improvement over 2010. Damn Leprechaun insists on hiding my tools. But at least they're in the same place. ;) The consistency is wonderful.

Being able to move an entire tab below or to the side of the Ribbon will improve things again. Not just panels - which overly complicates matters and is broken anyway (the panels redock when you finish a sketch mode...stupid bug). I'm still of the modest and humble ;) opinion that entirely contextual menus are stupid, lame, lazy, metaphors from an "innovative" company for designing a building that requires a polyphony of information. A ribbon is a contradiction to holistic workflow. I expect better design, implementation and timing.

2011 is an improvement in the sense that if the ribbon in 2010 was like viewing Revit through a straw, 2011 is like viewing it through a paper towel tube. I hope the factory doesn't rest with this effort!

As much as marketing claimed the Ribbon saves space - they can't really argue the claim with a straight face and and 1/2 a beer. There's so much wasted space to the right of the ribbon with reasonably large monitors in landscape mode. Being able to undock entire tabs from this ribbon will save more space and clicks. And the drunken leprechaun will finally sober up. ;)

-Phil

[gaby424]

well at the first point(1) i think is a bug...or i miss something.


1.
I`ve opened the Basic Sample Project that is listed in the start page of application.
.I opened the default 3D view of the model and the Section Box is active(it`s effect is there
) but the wire of it`s box is not visible. It is not hidden. If you unchek and recheck it`s visibility properties in the properties box you lost it`s cuting effect too. In new projects everything is ok with section box.

2.
When walking with navigation well in a building that have a direct light that go on a floor through a window(realistic and oclusion activated) it`s sometime happen that the spot of the light from the floor is moving relative to your moving (it not remaining fixed on the floor like in real world). Maybe is a video driver issue.

3.
sometime after you activate realistic and oclusion for the first time in that view, when you move the mouse over geometry the items remain highlited even if your mouse has gone. To refresh you need to zoom in and out.

[jeffh]

1.
I`ve opened the Basic Sample Project that is listed in the start page of application.
.I opened the default 3D view of the model and the Section Box is active(it`s effect is there
) but the wire of it`s box is not visible. It is not hidden. If you unchek and recheck it`s visibility properties in the properties box you lost it`s cuting effect too. In new projects everything is ok with section box.

The visibility of the section box is turned off in the view (visibility toggled by element rather than by category.) Use the reveal hidden elements tool on the view control bar and you will see it shown in magenta. Un-checking and rechecking the section box toggle in the view properties resets the section box to the model extents (hence it does not cut).

[gaby424]

well i know i was missing something :)

[Phil Read]

While Editing an in-place mass, you can assign a Component to the Pattern you've selected for the face of the mass. So far so good.

You can also tab through and select the assigned Component - and then open it in the Family Editor to edit the Component.

When you load the component back into the project, you'll still be in in-place mass editing mode. But you'll lose the ability to Finish editing the mass leave in-place Edit In-Place mode.

Bottom Line: Don't open and edit the pattern based component while in Edit In-Place mode.

-Phil

[bulletproofdesign]

Weeeeeee this is a very nice surprise compared to 2010!!

The help file suggests that the texture alignment button is on the 'render appearance' tab of the materials dialogue... It is in fact on the 'Graphics' Tab

That was quick!!

[jeffh]

Weeeeeee this is a very nice surprise compared to 2010!!

The help file suggests that the texture alignment button is on the 'render appearance' tab of the materials dialogue... It is in fact on the 'Graphics' Tab

That was quick!!

The help file references it correctly in one place:

http://docs.autodesk.com/REVIT/2011/ENU/filesUsersGuide/WS73099cc142f48755-76cbc98212711ff6639-7bbd.htm

and incorrectly in the other:

http://docs.autodesk.com/REVIT/2011/ENU/filesUsersGuide/WS73099cc142f48755-76cbc98212711ff6639-7bb7.htm

I will pass this along to the writers to be fixed. One of the advantages of Web based help is this can be corrected pretty easily.

Thanks for pointing it out.

[bulletproofdesign]

Great Jeff,

The help I am using is in the installer.....

Naughty ADSK!!

[samov]

Envoking ambient lighting in virtualization locks up both guest and host os. Nasty. I've had an app lock the Guest OS. This requires a hard reboot. Ouch.

Bugs in the "mac world".

[samov]

The new ribbom is NEW... i got lost for the first 4 hours. But it IS better. The icons are at least bigger. Autodesk finally realized that BIG ICONS are better than small icons + text.




Hey, Phil!
I've been wondering what your impression of the "New! Improved!" Ribbon would be.

I was hoping for maybe Sober Leprechaun, or at least Hungover Leprechaun.

[domglam]

Does anybody get an error when trying to download content extraction during the revit 2011 install?


It tells me the server replied with error code 0.(see attachment) I am unable to download this content(apart from templates) from anywhere.

This includes :
ENUsetupDocs
samplesRAC
ENUhelp
NewZealtemplates
IESthanks,

Dominic

[Phil Read]

Bugs in the "mac world".

Yup. I think Parallels attempt to maintain ambient lighting is causing the crash. What I didn't expect was the hard reboot.

-Phil

[still.james]

i think im going mad, but unless i have a 90 degree corner i cant get any hatch patterns for walls to join up (even in 2010 now.)

[bill.231942]

I have come across the same group editing toolbar missing. This is a real problem because although the fg shortcut ends model groups it does not end detail groups...

has anyone worked out what makes it dissapear and how i can get it back?

[eric.piotrowicz]

i think im going mad, but unless i have a 90 degree corner i cant get any hatch patterns for walls to join up (even in 2010 now.)
My first guess would be that the pattern settings were changed. Edit the wall assembly and pick on the offending material then pick the "..." radio button for the Cut Pattern, click the Edit button and in the middle of the Modify Pattern Properties window there is a pulldown. One of the three options should get you back to clean joins, probably Orient To View.

[m.augi]

Creating a Deployment on win 7 x64 . Page 4 of 8 where you specify where the paths are for the default template. if you change it to your company and then also add any library paths, etc these do not stick if you go to NEXT and come BACK to this screen.
Also if you do not go back to change there it will stick the values. BUT If you modify the path of the library, lets say instead of \Imperial Library I want my company it will change that in Revit.ini (provided you do not do NEXT/BACK) but in CONTENT.RCL (which expands the content.cab files) it still shows the default \Imperial Library

[Wes Macaulay]

I have come across the same group editing toolbar missing. This is a real problem because although the fg shortcut ends model groups it does not end detail groups...

has anyone worked out what makes it dissapear and how i can get it back?
I have also seen this. Everyone experiencing this: please create a support request for the bug.

[still.james]

My first guess would be that the pattern settings were changed. Edit the wall assembly and pick on the offending material then pick the "..." radio button for the Cut Pattern, click the Edit button and in the middle of the Modify Pattern Properties window there is a pulldown. One of the three options should get you back to clean joins, probably Orient To View.

i tried that also, made no difference...can anyone else test?

[iankids]

i think im going mad, but unless i have a 90 degree corner i cant get any hatch patterns for walls to join up (even in 2010 now.)

Hi,

I have found no problems with hatch pattern joins with walls regardless of angle between walls

I set up a few brick walls at varying degrees straight out of the box - all brick hatching joined correctly at all wall intersections. I then painted new material on to each wall with different hatch patterns. In all cases it worked fine.

ATI HD 4600 Video Card - Latest drivers - Hardware acceleration On - Win7 8gb Ram

Hope it helps


Ian

[bill.231942]

I have also seen this. Everyone experiencing this: please create a support request for the bug.

is the only way to submit a support request through the subscruption centre as i cant find it mentioned anywhere in the revit programme?

i ask as in my subscruption centre support request it does not give me 2011 as an option and thus i cannot submit a request...

thanks

[truevis]

...i ask as in my subscruption centre support request it does not give me 2011 as an option and thus i cannot submit a request...I suggest you submit a bug report about not being able to submit a bug report. Oh, wait :?

[pjensen]

I have come across the same group editing toolbar missing. This is a real problem because although the fg shortcut ends model groups it does not end detail groups...

has anyone worked out what makes it dissapear and how i can get it back?

This solved the problem for me with an upgraded project:

Create a new project using the default template.
Create a simple group & enter edit mode.
Dock the group edit toolbar to the ribbon.
Save & close project.
Open your upgraded project & Revit should remember the toolbar location in the ribbon.

[ws]

Annoying but harmless since installing RAC 2011

Wacom Intuos 4 tablet, latest driver 6.15-3a_int on Win 7 64 bit.

Exiting from RAC 2011 the cursor will lock up nearly every time.

It locks up every time after running batch update on RAC 2011.

Ctr+Alt+Del to open Task Manager frees the cursor.

[Wes Macaulay]

Yup - you do it through Subscription Center

:beer:

[Adrian Esdaile]

I don't know if this is a bug or change-by-design, but:

Render Appearance color selector has little functionality compared to 2010 release.

Manage tab, Materials icon -> Materials window -> Render Appearance tab -> Color selector only contains 'basic' color selector by default, with no Pantone support. "advanced' color selctor is available, but only after second click and still has no Pantone.

Compare with color selector that appears from Graphics tab, click on color swatch - color window now shows full HSL and RGB inputs, 'rainbow' panel and Pantone selector. This is what I would expect to see in the Render Appearance color selector too.

I'd also mention that 'colour' is consistently spelled wrong too, but that would be the action of a Commonwealth-born pedant! :-D

[Adrian Esdaile]

BUG UPDATE

Ok, this really is a bug now.... :-(

If you put your favourite colors into the custom colors panel of the color selector, either by entering them by hand or editing the revit.ini file under the [colors] section, the next time you start Revit there is a translation bug reading the hex color codes that transposes Red for Blue, so for example 6907ff becomes ff0769 on opening. NOT GOOD!

If you open Revit a second time, the colors are transposed back to the correct values, when you open a third time they are transposed again, etc. Must remember to open Revit twice so my colors display correctly? YIKES

I would submit this as a bug report through subscription, but I can't as there is no entry yet for Revit 2011. That's probably a bug too, huh? :-D

[ws]

Just looked at that and you are right - the colour changes in the favourites although what you have assigned the colour to doesn't.

I hope that they just forgot to include the Pantone option in the render appearance colour options - you can save the colour in graphics appearance then assign it via the favourites to the render appearance so it doesn't make sense not to have the Pantone palette as an option in render appearance.

[ford347]

I am experiencing a problem with 2011 that only developed yesterday. I installed 2011 the day it was available.

When I select an element, the ribbon will jump two or three times and will physically move the element I ty to select. I filed a support request and received this response:


Thank you for choosing Autodesk Support.

I understand in Revit Architecture 2011 your options bar is showing up as multiple green bars, and when you click on an object, you see more gray bars added moving the project down.

This is a known issue; please go through the steps in the following document resolve this issue:
Revit Options bar duplicates or moves objects when selected
http://usa.autodesk.com/getdoc/id=TS14997251

I would appreciate it if you would let me know if this resolves this issue. If it doesn't, please reply with more information about what you are trying to do so that I can give you a better answer.

It sounds like my only option at this point is un-checking the press and drag button. I've done that and it fixes the problem with the object moving, but the option bar is still jumping around every time I select an element and consequently the drawing is very jumpy. It makes for a very poor work environment with the screen jumping around every time you click something.

Josh

[bregnier]

I am experiencing a problem with 2011 that only developed yesterday. I installed 2011 the day it was available.

When I select an element, the ribbon will jump two or three times and will physically move the element I ty to select.

Josh

This is a fairly common problem, and frustrating as it can apparently be caused by a number of things, possibly necessitating a lengthy troubleshooting process.

You might start with this augi thread

http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=111281&highlight=RIBBON+JUMPING

FWIW when I had this issue with RAC2010 i fixed it by making my revit monitor the primary monitor in a double monitor system.

Also in my opinion Press+Drag is best left off all the time anyway.

Best

Ben

[ford347]

FWIW when I had this issue with RAC2010 i fixed it by making my revit monitor the primary monitor in a double monitor system.

When you say 'primary display', that makes sense when you are just on Windows, or just on OS X, but in my case, I have my center display as my primary display for OSX but I have parallels open up and stay on the left monitor, which makes Windows act like that display is it's primary display, but I could be wrong there.

I just moved Revit around a bit, placed it on the Mac's primary display and the project browser and propertied dialogs on the left display, closed Revit and re-opened and it is still jumping around.

Could have the properties and project dialog boxes sitting on another screen be causing this issue?

Thanks,

[bregnier]

I might try one of the other solutions posited on the earlier link - moving toolbars or resetting the UI. It's entirely a graphics issue and I have no idea how this is handled on Parallels with each OS getting a dedicated monitor.

[dbaldacchino]

You might want to take a look here (http://do-u-revit.blogspot.com/2009/10/whos-dragging-my-stuff.html).

[dzatto]

properties palette, choose edit type. When that dialogue box opens and I edit any of the paramters, the window shifts to the right so all I can see is the value. I have to manually scroll it back to the left to see the parameter column. Very annoying!

[reviot]

properties palette, choose edit type. When that dialogue box opens and I edit any of the paramters, the window shifts to the right so all I can see is the value. I have to manually scroll it back to the left to see the parameter column. Very annoying!
Getting the same thing happening here today - haven't noticed it in the last few days but maybe I was only changing 1 parameter at a time so it was not as obvious - whereas today I have wanted to make multiple changes within a family and have to keep scrolling to the left to see the parameter names. :?

[reviot]

Small error - just checking to see if we could now change arrow head angles to be greater than 90° in RA2011 and get the expected warning dialogue saying we still can't :cry: but it seems that Revit is not sure what angles we are allowed.

[ws]

Awaiting confirmation but it seems to me that you can't actually plot or print the ambient occlusion which looks so nice in Views - it just doesn't show up in output unless you make a screenshot of a View.

[samov]

Another BIG bug report. There is this huge bug when editing inplace families. The finish/cancel do not actually show all the time. You have to select something and then you can close out of the inplace family.

When in a 3d camera view there is no visual marker that you are still editing... just the grayed out stuff. Selecting something here does not display the finish/cancel buttons. You have to change views, then select something... then finish and THEN get back to the 3d camera view.

[ws]

Yes, I saw that problem this morning but once I understood what was happening worked around it as you describe (select something).

It would confuse a new user however.

[dbaldacchino]

Hmmm I'm still on Beta here, but I can print to PDF with OC enabled just fine.

[ws]

Thanks David,

that's odd - definitely doesn't work for me on Win 7 64

I'm waiting for my reseller to check and get back to me.

The attached is an exported bitmap at high resolution compared to the original in Revit, on the right...

Same with pdf and paper output by plotting Views on sheets.

I keep thinking that there must be something obvious that I am missing but I don't see it.

Weird.

[muttlieb]

I keep thinking that there must be something obvious that I am missing but I don't see it.

Weird.

William, I can confirm that ambient occlusion does not print. I have been able to export to JPEG with ambient occlusion visible though.

[dbaldacchino]

I'm on Vista Enterprise 64. Can anyone else having this problem confirm what OS they're on?

[ws]

Phew... thanks - not just me then ;)

jpg wasn't working either for me, however...

Ah, I see what it is - it's related to resolution of output.

If you accept the default low resolution then exported bitmaps do show AO.

If you crank up the quality of output then it disappears - i.e. if you change the 'raster image quality' from the default 72 to anything higher.

Same happens with tif format exports.

Can't get it to plot as Views on sheets at all though, even if I choose Low quality raster output.

[muttlieb]

I'm on Vista Enterprise 64. Can anyone else having this problem confirm what OS they're on?
Doesn't work for me on XP 32 or Vista 32

[dbaldacchino]

I'm able to output to jpg (lossless), 3000 pixels horizontally, no issues with A.O. Even if I print to pdf at presentation quality, A.O. still works fine here.

[vgonzales]

Confirmed bug! Ambient occlusion turned on and not being able to print it.

[dbaldacchino]

This must be some display-related issue. Have you confirmed you have a supported card as shown here (http://www.autodesk.com/us/revit/revit_graphics_hardware_-_graphics_hardware_list_final.html)? What avout the video driver...have you updated it?

[iru69]

I believe this is still happening even with "supported" drivers. However, it does strike me as something that may be video card related.

Also, David, sincerely appreciate your input so don't take this the wrong way, but considering you're still using the "beta" seems to introduce another variable that could potentially confuse things further.

Also, this seems to bring up a bigger issue with AO. Since it only works if you have HWA, and assuming you are able to get it to print, this means that someone without HWA who tries to print the exact same set of drawings would not end up with the same plotted output? If so, this seems to introduce a problematic concept.

[muttlieb]

This must be some display-related issue. Have you confirmed you have a supported card as shown here (http://www.autodesk.com/us/revit/revit_graphics_hardware_-_graphics_hardware_list_final.html)? What avout the video driver...have you updated it?
Ambient occlusion not printing occurs with both supported & recommended card & driver, as well as with most current video driver. (GeForce 9600GT & Quadro FX570)

[ws]

I've tried it with new projects and upgraded projects - no difference.

Realistic views work fine, shadows work fine, it's just the ambient occlusion that doesn't appear.

As a bitmap export it only appears with Raster Image Quality left at 72 and the 'zoom to' no greater than 100%.

I've tried exporting huge images of .5GB size and shadows and everything works fine - just no ambient occlusion.

I think there is a problem ;)

[jamesgchambers]

Haven't seen this one around yet...

Selecting the "Sheets" category in the project browser doesn't allow you to edit the properties with the docked palate, they are grayed out. You have to right click (so 2010!!) and go to type properties.

Edit (PS)
Also it's kind of a bummer that inserting a new sheet doesn't carry through misc parameters you've applied. We (like a lot of other offices I know) add a parameter for sort order of sheets, so if i create a consultant sheet set all our parameters the right way and hit "new row" it just increases the sheet number by 1. If you use the old copy/paste trick with a real sheet, all these settings come through. Almost convinces me that it's LESS work to set up a consultant sheet right and copy/paste real sheets to make their drawing lists.

[dzatto]

I've tried it with new projects and upgraded projects - no difference.

Realistic views work fine, shadows work fine, it's just the ambient occlusion that doesn't appear.

As a bitmap export it only appears with Raster Image Quality left at 72 and the 'zoom to' no greater than 100%.

I've tried exporting huge images of .5GB size and shadows and everything works fine - just no ambient occlusion.

I think there is a problem ;)
It also doesn't work it you export the 3D model in realistic view to a DWF. At least it doesn't work for me. It takes it all the way down to just plain shaded. The material hatches don't even show up now. :cry:

[Adrian Esdaile]

More Ambient Occlusion not printing.

A real shame, as I was stoked to be able to show the boss an elevation with depth shading for the first time ever, and it looked gorgeous!

Hardware: Nvidia GeForce GTS250, 1GB VRAM
Drivers: Nvidia 191.07 64bit
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit

[Adrian Esdaile]

Update to above:

Yes, I know my card is not on the HW list, but why it wouldn't be is a bit bogus - these days DirectX gfx cards are developed enough that it should Just Work :-(

With that in mind, I fired up the same elevation on a machine with the following kit:

Graphics card: Nvidia Quadro FX1500 (HW listed, but a DOG of a card, it cost more than an entire new PC and it is RUBBISH... anyway....)
Driver: Nvidia 191.78 64bit
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit

also:

HP NW9400 laptop
Graphics: Nvidia Quadro FX1500M (even worse than above, awful flickers known prob with HP Quadros...grr.....also cost a fortune....)
Driver: Nvidia 191.78 64bit
OS: Vista Ultimate 64bit

So it SHOULD work on both of those, but again, no AO gets sent to a printer. We can output JPG fine, but no printer gets the AO. (see below, I thought we were outputting it, but then I looked properly...)

Sinking feeling about new release setting in; when's SP1 due?

[Adrian Esdaile]

More Ambient Occlusion problems :-(

None of our systems will export the Ambient Occlusion to JPG or TIFF either. The only way to reproduce it is screenshot.

Looks like Ambient Occlusion is borked for now :-(

Please please please please fix soon, Autodesk, it is SO COOL!

[Wes Macaulay]

Actually folks - AO works fine as long as you keep the view at 72dpi and export at 100%. Kudos to William (WS) for making this discovery!

[ws]

It exports OK at that rather crude resolution but it still doesn't print unfortunately.

Wes is possibly right (in the display modes thread) that it is related to the OS default screen resolution being 72, and perhaps upscaling is a problem...

although screen resolution in Windows 7 is fancier than it used to be (mine on a 30" Eizo monitor at 2560 x 1600 says text is displayed as 9 point Segoe UI at 120 pixels per inch overall displayed at 125%... whatever that means ;) )

I've not had a reply from A'desk support or my reseller yet.

In the meantime it isn't life-threatening and screenshots work pretty well for 3D views.

[ws]

Just had a reply from support.

They say that they are aware of this issue and are investigating it.

[Graeme Padgham]

Ambient Occulsion doesnt show in any perspective camera view, but flick to standard isometric 3D view it shows.
doesnt print however....

Running Windows 7 64bit, with ATI 5770 (direct X11 compatible) card.
(ps. graphics performance is excellent for a card that cost £100)!!

[ws]

Ambient occlusion shows in my perspective camera views - looks very nice.

That's with a Quadro FX3800 card.

[dbaldacchino]

I've been able to export images at higher than 72 dpi just fine. So it's probably not solely due to resolution. Something else must be interacting.

[cliff collins]

Dave,

Are you still on 2011 Beta? or the official 2011? Could be something changed from Beta
since you seem to be the only one where AO prints/exports correctly.

Just checking to make sure we're all using same software.

cheers

[dbaldacchino]

Yep still on Beta. Once the deployment is ready and I get the new version, I'll re-test. This might be useful info to find out why it's broken if that turns out to be the case.

[twiceroadsfool]

Ive got both installed here, but ive been too buried to test it. Ill try to take a few examples to plot this afternoon to see if its both versions of just the RTM version here as well.

But ive got a midnight deadline on a project tonight, sooo...

[KEC091507]

Creating a Deployment on win 7 x64 . Page 4 of 8 where you specify where the paths are for the default template. if you change it to your company and then also add any library paths, etc these do not stick if you go to NEXT and come BACK to this screen.
Also if you do not go back to change there it will stick the values. BUT If you modify the path of the library, lets say instead of \Imperial Library I want my company it will change that in Revit.ini (provided you do not do NEXT/BACK) but in CONTENT.RCL (which expands the content.cab files) it still shows the default \Imperial Library

I'm having this problem too in WinXP x64 and x 32 and Vista x64 and x32. Except, whether I go back to the default file page or not it resets all the information when I create the deployment.

[iankids]

After a number of tests, I have the same results as everyone except Dave. Ambient Occulsion will not print.

Additionally, for me, the export image option also failed. Regardless of the size of the image or the resolution, I get an error message: "Failed to export. Reduce size of Image"

I will lodge a support request and see what comes of it.

Cheers,


Ian

[cliff collins]

Same result here.

Seems the Beta AO worked, but official release it doesn't?

Need to confirm this.

cheers

[julian.karate]

Every time when I start the program the main page displays, but when I try to open a new file or project the program freezes.
Is saying (not responding). I tried reinstalling RAC2011 a couple of times, even reinstalled Windows 7 (32bit) but same, not responding.
From 20 times I tried to open somehow only worked once.
I saw a thread about hanging because Archvision Content Manager but is not my case.
Anybody is having same issue? Please advice...

I think is a big.... BUG ...!

[bulletproofdesign]

Okay Ambient Occlusion nuts.

For me (RAC2011 DVD) I save 'save image to project' as long as the dimensions remain
x<2048 (2^11)-1=2047
y<4097 (2^12)=4096

Sounds like.. I got the power (of 2 that is!!?!)

weird thing is, the minus one....... I suppose it could be -1 to the exponent and -1 to the result.... Maybe some mad genius inside ADSK is playing with our minds..... Maybe I have too much time on my hands.... :sigh:

Can anyone confirm??!?

So If you are desperado hurried like, and have photoshop, or any other editing package, you can print strips of your image at 2047 wide and stitch them together. :D Just be sure that their ratio is less than 2:1

Happy occluding...

[bulletproofdesign]

Here is an example... waaaay too much time wasted when you should be able to just 'press a button'

As expected, each image is slightly different pixel space, and the occlusion effect differs too... So not only do they not line up exactly, there are shading differences...

I did my best!!

[ws]

I had an update from Revit support on this issue which says,
Autodesk has placed this product issue on development's product modification schedule

so I guess it should be fixed in the first service release.

[Scott D Davis]

I confirmed with our QA department that AO not printing is a known issue. Some issues kept it from being included in the shipping version. The Known Issues document will be updated to include this.

[muttlieb]

The Known Issues document will be updated to include this.
Where can I find the Known Issues document?

[bulletproofdesign]

Properties pallette issue.

When switching from a family to a project, my properties pallette maximises vertically, pushing the project browser almost off the screen.

[RevitGary]

I am getting the Graphics card warning on start up.

"Some features may not be fully supported by the video card and driver on this computer"

My device is on the list I have current drivers and I have followed the instructions on this page

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&id=14636373&linkID=9243099

I have a NVIDIA QUADRO Fx 3800.

Now What?

[muttlieb]

I am getting the Graphics card warning on start up.

"Some features may not be fully supported by the video card and driver on this computer"

My device is on the list I have current drivers and I have followed the instructions on this page

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&id=14636373&linkID=9243099

I have a NVIDIA QUADRO Fx 3800.

Now What?

You will get that message if you have current drivers since they are newer than the supported, recommended drivers on the list. The message should report Problem: Newer video driver. The newer driver should work fine, but if you run into problems you could install the supported, recommended driver.

[RevitGary]

Thank you !

[narlee]

I confirmed with our QA department that AO not printing is a known issue. Some issues kept it from being included in the shipping version. The Known Issues document will be updated to include this.

AO works for Exporting Images, tho, if that's of any help.

[brenehan]

Where can I find the Known Issues document?

Yes - Where can we find the Known Issues Document.

[Scott D Davis]

in the Knowledge Base

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/pc/index?siteID=123112&id=14262837

Each is a separate article in the knowledge base. Additional known issues will be added,

[brenehan]

in the Knowledge Base

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/pc/index?siteID=123112&id=14262837

Each is a separate article in the knowledge base. Additional known issues will be added,

Thanks Scott.

[Scott D Davis]

and here's the article on AO, hot off the press!

http://usa.autodesk.com/getdoc/id=TS15059809 (http://usa.autodesk.com/getdoc/id=TS15059809)

[ws]

Thanks Scott,

So, it isn't actually a problem but a user request for additional functionality ;)

[dzatto]

and here's the article on AO, hot off the press!

http://usa.autodesk.com/getdoc/id=TS15059809 (http://usa.autodesk.com/getdoc/id=TS15059809)
What about being able to export a realistic view to a 3D DWF? You could do it in ACA, and since everyone knows Revit is wayyyy better............;)

[Wes Macaulay]

Here's our list of bugs discovered so far:

We cannot make multiple views' worksets editable from the Project Browser by right-clicking. We could do this in 2010.
We cannot select all instances of viewport types when views are on sheets by right-clicking and choosing "Select All Instances". It's grayed out on the right-click menu.
We cannot override graphics on wall sweeps by element, as we could in 2010. So there is now no way to control the appearance of wall sweeps in views, especially elevations where we'd like to do this.

[Scott D Davis]

What about being able to export a realistic view to a 3D DWF? You could do it in ACA, and since everyone knows Revit is wayyyy better............;)

Doesn't work in Revit 2011 to DWF or DWFx . Not sure about ACA....do you have ACA 2011 installed? If so, try and export an ACA Realistic view to DWF ad see if its the same....my hunch is that the material change in AutoCAD/ACA to mental ray materials might have changed the AutoCAD behavior as well.

[dzatto]

Doesn't work in Revit 2011 to DWF or DWFx . Not sure about ACA....do you have ACA 2011 installed? If so, try and export an ACA Realistic view to DWF ad see if its the same....my hunch is that the material change in AutoCAD/ACA to mental ray materials might have changed the AutoCAD behavior as well.
I need to check that. Haven't messed with ACA 2011 now that I have Revit.

That would not be good, though. One of the things we do is give the client a 3D DWF of their building with intructions on downloading the free viewer from Adesk. That way they can see their house and impress their friends as the spin it around on screen. :mrgreen:

[dbaldacchino]

The Autodesk KB article is a bit off in my opinion. Revit has always been WYSIWYG, so this is clearly broken functionality, not missing functionality.

[twiceroadsfool]

I have to agree with David. Whats the point of the feature if i cant show it or plot it or export it. Just for my viewing pleasure while i work? I'll never have it on while i work. I keep all of my views shadowless and at Coarse level of detail (AKA haul *** mode).

The whole point of Realistic and AO is to be able to make the images better for deliverables... I hope they get that FIXED (not added) sooner rather than later.

[Scott D Davis]

The Autodesk KB article is a bit off in my opinion. Revit has always been WYSIWYG, so this is clearly broken functionality, not missing functionality.

The way I understand it, AO printing was functionality that was planned, but did not pass testing proceedures. So yes, broken. But not abandoned. I'm sure the Factory is working on the functionality for the future.

[sfaust]

The way I understand it, AO printing was functionality that was planned, but did not pass testing proceedures. So yes, broken. But not abandoned. I'm sure the Factory is working on the functionality for the future.

really hoping "the future" is service pack 1...

[bulletproofdesign]

Incase you guys didn't notice my previous post, you can export/Print AO.

There seems to be a physical limit to the number of pixels.

Those limits are:
2047 horizontally &
4096 vertically

Not sure why, though thats what my testing yields.

Peace

[mmiles]

several times I have been editing groups, or floor and/or roof type definitions (e.g changing properties of existing roof, and making new roof type) when my cursor, and highlighting of elements stops working.

I can select objects since the filter allows me to see the number of selections I have, but I cannot do anything to anything. Each time I have to sync, save, close and reopen to regain functionality. Or, I just discovered if I switch windows to another file the functionality returns.

since this is an upgrade from a project made long ago (placed on hold several times) I am not sure if it is related to that, or something about my comuter, or a bug. Anyone else experiencing this type of behavior?

[twiceroadsfool]

mmiles- Its a known issue. Are you changing instance properties and then clicking right back in to the model window? Use the apply button in the properties palette instead. Problem SHOULD go away...

[mmiles]

mmiles- Its a known issue. Are you changing instance properties and then clicking right back in to the model window? Use the apply button in the properties palette instead. Problem SHOULD go away...

Aaron,

I am not sure if that is what is happening. I will attempt to pay more attention when it happens. It sounds possible.... thanks.

[twiceroadsfool]

Aaron,

I am not sure if that is what is happening. I will attempt to pay more attention when it happens. It sounds possible.... thanks.

What youre describing (that selection still works, but the graphical display doesnt refresh until you hit the zoom wheel- or otherwise toggle views- is related (somehow) to the new properties palette. Were having a coupld of issues with it to, but we alerted the Factory and they have QA on it. For us, it crops up when toggling an instance yes/no parameter for a door family. Clicking one in type properties works fine, and the yes/no instance works fine... If we use the apply button.

No biggie since the apply works. Props to R manna for finding the loophole, lol.

[ron.sanpedro]

Looks like the Render Region bug didn't get fixed either. Two steps forward, one step back.

Gordon

[jzee.101345]

Start typing new value in elemet property tab, hitting enter key while the mouse cursor is in the drawing area often execute "repeate last command" instead of entering typed value.

[Overconstrained]

The way I understand it, AO printing was functionality that was planned, but did not pass testing proceedures. So yes, broken. But not abandoned. I'm sure the Factory is working on the functionality for the future.

lol......guys, might have to make sure everyone knows that "AO" is ambient occlusion......when I first read it I thought it was A0 sheet size that wasn't printing!! DOH!

[Mr Spot]

Is anyone else experiencing the Offset command not working if you uncheck copy?

[ws]

No, works fine for me on Win 7 64

Trying that out I didn't realise that the Offset command with copy unchecked and the graphical option enabled makes a handy 'move' tool :)

[crawfords]

This solved the problem for me with an upgraded project:

Create a new project using the default template.
Create a simple group & enter edit mode.
Dock the group edit toolbar to the ribbon.
Save & close project.
Open your upgraded project & Revit should remember the toolbar location in the ribbon.

I submitted this as a support request and received instructions on resetting the user interface. The complete song-n-dance, including VBS script can be found at

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&id=14880949&linkID=9243099

Here's the DIY version:
"Warning! This script may delete a file on your computer. It also removes a Windows Registry key. Do not use it without consulting your system administrator first.


To reset the ribbon and Quick Access Toolbar:
Rename or delete the UIState.dat file located in the Autodesk Revit Architecture 2011 folder, which can be found in one of the following locations, depending on your operating system:

Windows XP

%USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Application Data\Autodesk\Revit\Autodesk Revit Architecture 2011

Windows Vista

%LOCALAPPDATA%\Autodesk\Revit\Autodesk Revit Architecture 2011
To reset your Project Browser to the default location:
Using the Windows Registry editor, rename the following registry key:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Autodesk\Revit\Autodesk Revit Architecture 2011\Components\Panels"

One of my colleagues claimed that the problem went away after she installed a new graphics card driver, but she may just be prackiting richcraft...

-Crawford

[Graeme Padgham]

Noticed a bug in the family editor.

I nested a generic model family, into another generic model family.
Went to component to place this nested family.
family appeared on my mouse, dropped it down, and it stayed on the cursor to place another one, hitting cancel or escape doesnt work!!, cant exit the place command without clicking another command from the ribbon.

[twiceroadsfool]

Noticed a bug in the family editor.

I nested a generic model family, into another generic model family.
Went to component to place this nested family.
family appeared on my mouse, dropped it down, and it stayed on the cursor to place another one, hitting cancel or escape doesnt work!!, cant exit the place command without clicking another command from the ribbon.

I was getting that a lot in 2010 as well. It was like having scotch tape stuck to your hand, LOL...

[truevis]

...I didn't realise that the Offset command with copy unchecked and the graphical option enabled makes a handy 'move' tool :)It's been like that for many years, maybe forever. We learn something every day, eh?

[ws]

It's been like that for many years, maybe forever. We learn something every day, eh?

Sometimes I think I know less about Revit now than I did when I started... :? ;)

[dbaldacchino]

A similar "trick" is to start the rotate tool first and then check Copy to do a rotated copy.

[kt4000]

When export 3d view to dwg lost material setting in all inplace family.
In 3d max screenshot basic wall have material (gray), inplace created wall dont have any material (yelloy).
Sorry for my bad english.

[Silleke]

When switching from one view to another, I notice that sometimes the previous image impression stay in the new view. I did not have this problem in 2010. However, after setting the graphic accelerator out, my problem is solved.

[yaggey]

Every time when I start the program the main page displays, but when I try to open a new file or project the program freezes.
Is saying (not responding). I tried reinstalling RAC2011 a couple of times, even reinstalled Windows 7 (32bit) but same, not responding.
From 20 times I tried to open somehow only worked once.
I saw a thread about hanging because Archvision Content Manager but is not my case.
Anybody is having same issue? Please advice...

I think is a big.... BUG ...!

I have also been experiencing a similar issue. Each time I attempt to modify an old file and hit "save" the entire program freezes up forcing me to close without saving any changes. So far the ONLY fix I have found is to hit "save as" and change the file name and directory location. Then I have to transfer the new file into the originally intended location and delete the old file I was working on. Still trying to solve this huge pain!

[twiceroadsfool]

TRANSFER PROJECT STANDARDS-

Trying to use it to pull wall types in to a new template... And the entire ribbon grays out after. i cant save, i cant close, i cant do anything.

Woah.

[twiceroadsfool]

Found it. In 2011, if i try to delete a bunch of wall types, when the basic walls that are in a stacked wall definition gets deleted, the dialogue box comes up, you press okay, but then it acts like its waiting for another dialogue box.

You cant save, you cant close, you cant do anything, and theres no dialogue box. Ill submit a SR on it...

[patricks]

Boss has reported his QAT tools disappearing twice now, which also happened early on in 2010. Anyone else having a similar problem?

[clog boy]

Aren't these 'undocumented features' rather than bugs? ;)

[sposton]

I tried searching and haven't seen this one yet:
When bringing up the Render Appearance Library, the actual library of materials is cut off, or moved to the side. See the attached image.
Even using Resize Enable doesn't seem to help. I am at a loss!

[Scott D Davis]

I tried searching and haven't seen this one yet:
When bringing up the Render Appearance Library, the actual library of materials is cut off, or moved to the side. See the attached image.
Even using Resize Enable doesn't seem to help. I am at a loss!

eww...that's a weird one. Haven't seen that yet! It's like the material window got "undocked" from the main window. I can't even force mine to do that. Have you filed a support request?

[trombe]

Update to above:
(abridged)
Graphics card: Nvidia Quadro FX1500 (HW listed, but a DOG of a card, it cost more than an entire new PC and it is RUBBISH... anyway....)
Driver: Nvidia 191.78 64bit
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit

also:

HP NW9400 laptop
Graphics: Nvidia Quadro FX1500M (even worse than above, awful flickers known prob with HP Quadros...grr.....also cost a fortune....)
Driver: Nvidia 191.78 64bit
OS: Vista Ultimate 64bit

So it SHOULD work on both of those, but again, no AO gets sent to a printer. We can output JPG fine, but no printer gets the AO. (see below, I thought we were outputting it, but then I looked properly...)
Sinking feeling about new release setting in; when's SP1 due?

A Esdaile,
Sorry to hear about your woes.
I do not think it is the video card or driver itself (this time !)
I have FX1500 (2007 vintage) , driver 191.78, Vista x64, 8Gb DDR 2 RAM, RA2011 and have had only 2 crashes since installation on April 15. One of my 2 crashes was user error, while the other was changing communication centre settings.
You could try an earlier driver.
Per chance, I had the 182.65 driver running on 2010 when I installed Revit 2011. It ran fine but the message came up about some features may not work blah blah.
Then I upgraded it to the 191.66 version and it ran fine (but the message about some features may not work blah blah came up) and then I upgraded it to the latest 191.78 version and it runs fine and in all 3 cases, the same message came up about some features may not work but the machine has showed no difference in performance from video drivers, all cases.
I just told the message dialogue to disappear for ever and carried on.
trombe

[narlee]

Silhouette Lines don't work in Realistic View, although the Help File says it does. It would be very helpful, because in Elevation, the "turned away" wall location disappears.

[bulletproofdesign]

If you click the 'edit family' button in a project the family editor opens....

When in a shape editing tool in the family editor (region, extrusion, etc), if you close the family, the 'load into family' button stays attached to your ribbon.... Clicking this suggests that htere are 'no open projects' for you to load you project into....

Edit another family, click the 'load into family' button and it disappears...

[Phil Read]

This entire thread reads like a beta forum. Sigh....

[fernando]

I had problems with ligthing objects, they don´t create light to interior renders, with artificial light.

I edit object type properties to check parameters, and in color check i only get Black, no metter the kind of licht color I use.

Using Revit Arc. 2011, with library objects.

[sbrown]

You need to adjust the exposure after the rendering completes or befor you start it. The default exposure is set for daylighting. Also you'll get good results on interior renderings if you render Early evening or early morning shots, so there is some ambient natural light.

[twiceroadsfool]

After a LONG day of content editing (probably had 30 or 40 families opened on and off), 2011 lost the ability to save, but only the family files. Not a big deal, since i could save the template and close and resave them, but annoying nonetheless. Thats nothing we hadnt seen in 2010 as well.

What made it different? The two families i tried to save when it was wigging out........

Now tell me they were created in a later version of Revit and cannot be opened. In 2011. Hehehehehehehe.

Whos holding out?? Who has 2012 already???

[RevitRonin]

Here's a very interesting error that I get when upgrading a file from 2010:

****
"Deleted level was used to define plan region's view range. Replace deleted level by level of parent view and adjust offset? "

View "Floor Plan: Balcony" : Plan Region : Plan Region : id 1052106
****

The level remains in the project and plan views with annotations are in tact. The plan region is unchanged from the original file version.

So far it looks like a bogus error, but it has happened on two out of two projects that I have tested (with diferent level and plan region id's of course).

[narlee]

[QUOTE=eric-bowman;1066048]Here's a very interesting error that I get when upgrading a file from 2010:

****
"Deleted level was used to define plan region's view range. Replace deleted level by level of parent view and adjust offset? "

Ha - doesn't THAT sound like a gremlin?!

[mmiles]

I got that same error when upgrading from 2010. And, as far as I can tell, there was no deletion of plans, or plan regions.

[mmiles]

Boss has reported his QAT tools disappearing twice now, which also happened early on in 2010. Anyone else having a similar problem?

Maybe not the same thing, but I keep adding the Linework tool to my QAT, and it keeps dissapperaing. So far, that is all I have tried with the QAT.

[stuntmonkee]

Having an issue when upgrading large files with large links. Seems to go through the entire upgrade process, and then crash at the very end. Prompts me to allow a save of the file, so I save, and then when I reopen it seems to go fine. Not ruining my day, but it's a pain to have to restart each time.

[cliff collins]

stunt,

What kind of hardware are you running? Smells like a memory problem?

cheers

[stuntmonkee]

stunt,

What kind of hardware are you running? Smells like a memory problem?

cheers

64 bit, XP, 8gig of ram w/ a Core2 Quad 2.83.

Thats what I was kind of thinking too. Like I said, not ruining my day, and it will be in the past soon enough. I think the temporary upgrade of the links is what is killing it. Most of those, I see the RAM peaking around 6 gig.

We are in the mix of having a new IT department, and they are in the mix up getting some better systems in here.

Thanks
Stunts

[mmiles]

I had to send a file to Autodesk for upgrade as I kept getting a message about running out of memory. I see you have 64 bit - which is what support told me was how I could avoid that problem on other upgrades. For us, that means upgrading our workstations which for the time being is not going to happen.

I have a problem related to that upgraded project: every time I select a family (e.g. a door, or a wall based family, or a detail component) the program issues a fatal error warning and prompts me to shut down. This is a big problem because, basically, I cannot do much with the file. I found that I could use the browser to open the families causing problems and reload them, and the problem went away. But, it is happening all over the place, and somewhat randomly. Anyone else experiencing this?

[DaveP]

. I think the temporary upgrade of the links is what is killing it.
When I upgrade our projects, I always rename all of the files first - stick an X in front of the name, or the old version number.
Then when you upgrade one file, it won't find the Links and avoids the temporary upgrade. Works a lot faster too. Once you've upgraded, SaveAs (new Central) as the original name.
As you upgrade, anything that has the correct name has already been upgraded, so no need for temporaries.

This can sometimes Unload a Link, so you'll probably want to make note of which Links are Loaded and which are Unloaded, so you can correct that when you're done.

In fact, Autodesk is now recommending that in their :
Model Performance Technical Notes white paper:
(http://images.autodesk.com/latin_am_main/files/revit_platform_2009_model_performance_technical_note.pdf)
Upgrading Linked Projects to a New Version of Revit
■ Temporarily rename all central files. Renamed central files will fail to locate any Revit models linked to
the renamed central, and Revit will avoid temporarily upgrading the links.
■ After you have upgraded each central file, use the Save As command to return each to its original name.
■ Upgrade each central file's linked files. The upgraded central files will once again find the upgraded linked
file.

[stuntmonkee]

When I upgrade our projects, I always rename all of the files first - stick an X in front of the name, or the old version number.
Then when you upgrade one file, it won't find the Links and avoids the temporary upgrade. Works a lot faster too. Once you've upgraded, SaveAs (new Central) as the original name.
As you upgrade, anything that has the correct name has already been upgraded, so no need for temporaries.

This can sometimes Unload a Link, so you'll probably want to make note of which Links are Loaded and which are Unloaded, so you can correct that when you're done.

In fact, Autodesk is now recommending that in their :
Model Performance Technical Notes white paper:
(http://images.autodesk.com/latin_am_main/files/revit_platform_2009_model_performance_technical_note.pdf)
Upgrading Linked Projects to a New Version of Revit
■ Temporarily rename all central files. Renamed central files will fail to locate any Revit models linked to
the renamed central, and Revit will avoid temporarily upgrading the links.
■ After you have upgraded each central file, use the Save As command to return each to its original name.
■ Upgrade each central file's linked files. The upgraded central files will once again find the upgraded linked
file.

Good call. I was going to do that, buuuuuuuuut, this is a test upgrade, so If I renamed all the links it would kill the project that the rest of the staff is still working on. But I'll run it that way for sure when we do the official upgrade.

Thanks
Stunts.

[dzatto]

Here's a few more. One might be a video card problem, not sure. But, I have a floor view and a 3D view open. I made a wall change on the 3D view, my floor view was frozen. I had to close it and re open it. So I tested what I did, but this time did the change in the floor view, and the 3D view froze!

Also, I added my folder locations for my buildings to the left side of the open dialogue. I can't just select a folder. I have to click it 2 or 3 times for it to open. Very frustrating.

[myBIMhero]

Has anyone else come across Edit Group panel not coming up after you edit group? I havent found it in the 16 pages I just read through. Thanks.

[JH75]

Hi,
I have the same issue ie Edit Group Panel not showing up when edititing a group.
http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=117735

I think I saw it on one of the earlier pages in this thread.

J

[Hagbard]

When exporting a metric model, which has a defined survey point, to IFC, the relation between the survey point and the project base point gets converted to feet within the IFC file. When importing this IFC file, this relation is read as millimeters thus resulting in wrong origin for the imported model.

For example, a survey point that has the following relation to the project base point:
X=-5000 mm, Y=-10000 mm, Z=1000 mm, Angle to true north=30°, gets defined like this in the exported IFC file:

#341=IFCCARTESIANPOINT((16.40419947506561,32.80839895013124,-3.280839895013123));

i.e. the correct coordinate for the survey point - but stated in feet. Since all lenghts in the IFC file are defined in millimeters, this coordinate will be read as 16.4 mm, 32.8 mm, -3.28 mm when imported. The angle to true north is exported correctly.

[trombe]

Revit 2011 x64 - original release build.
Vista 64

Revit 2011, will not write clean PDF files to PDF Factory Pro.

The resultant file has the text cut in half horizontally so the lower half is gone.
This is the same problem I have had with Revit 2010 and factory gave up on support request.

This PDF writer writes clean files from all other apps I have on my machine and has done so for the last 4 years.
Revit 2009 used to write CLEAN PDF FILES using this same system.
This gives rise to this bug report.

trombe

[sposton]

eww...that's a weird one. Haven't seen that yet! It's like the material window got "undocked" from the main window. I can't even force mine to do that. Have you filed a support request?

No, I have since been busy, but I think I'll file one today and see what kind of response I get. Very strange!

[DaveP]

Good call. I was going to do that, buuuuuuuuut, this is a test upgrade, so If I renamed all the links it would kill the project that the rest of the staff is still working on. But I'll run it that way for sure when we do the official upgrade.

Thanks
Stunts.

One more trick I've used for testing:

Copy all of the .rvt files to your hard drive
Disconnect from the network
Upgrade each file
Reconnect to the network
Copy files up to new location
Reload From each of the LinksOr, if you don't need to share (and, who likes sharing!) just leave everything on your C: drive.

[Matt Brennan]

[QUOTE=jzee.101345;1059816]1. Type properties panel often has to be scrolled horizontally with no reason for that.

Same problem here.

[bulletproofdesign]

Paste by 'select levels', by 'pick level' and 'in current view' not working correctly.

If I start a new project with no template, works fine. I f usinf an OOTB template or any of my upgraded templates, the paste ends up on the original level.

I have tried pasting from the original level, target level, from elevation and in 3D views. All return the same issue.

support request filed...

:sigh:

[bulletproofdesign]

Yay, A new UI issue.....

Attached is a cool ribbon and QAC. just so you know the QAC is the default one, nice icons eh? the buttons all work correctly and the hover-text is correct, check out the help icon..... the line tools......

The next one, is what happens when I have a drafting view activated in a sheet view. drag select creates several boxes.... in fact one for each drafting view....

More to follow shortly!!

[r.grandmaison]

I can bring my Revit to a crashing halt anytime I want to by this:

Bring up the Material editor.
Click Render Appearance Tab
Click Replace button.
Choose a different material from materail library and OK.

At this point it crashes on me and becomes utterly unresponsive and "whites out". The ONLY way I've found to remedy it is to change the material preview swatch in the Render Appearance tab to the DRAFT quality display. Medium or High quality cause the instantateous crash- with no opportunity to save.

Others have seen the same behavior.

Many thanks to Bennie.sharp who found the fix for it, but it sure makes it a hassle to use the workaround!

[gravelin]

Others have seen the same behavior.


Several of us have the same problem with the french release
You can take a look here (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=118219)

[ben76red]

Did you find a way to solve the problem with the glazing material transfer (FBX)? I'm having the same prob. Does anybody know when they'll fix the realistic view setting? I know you can change the graphic setting but it slows revit does to an unacceptable level.

[eschappe]

I am having an issue which I haven't seen mentioned on here yet. After I modify some view filters or a color scheme, I am greeted with a warning after syncing with central that "These elements' names were automatically changed to eliminate duplicates." For which there were no duplicates to begin with. The way I am setting up my filter names reflect what they are filtering for, so one of them has CASEWORK 2.1, and it will rename it and all the ones after it to CASEWORK 2.2, 2.3,2.4 and so on. Thus my filter name no longer matches the actual filter, making it very confusing. This also happens with names not containing numbers, for example my color scheme was named BUILDING AREA CODE, and after a modification and STC, Revit decided to rename it to BUILDING AREA CODE1. What baffles me is that I was the only one messing with this, so no one else was making changes when this happened. Anyone else have anything similar happen?

A chunk of the error report I spoke of above :
Filters : : CASEWORK 1.4 : id 5202682
Filters : : CASEWORK 2.14 : id 5202683
Filters : : CASEWORK 2.7 : id 5202684
Filters : : CASEWORK 2.1 : id 5202685
Filters : : CASEWORK 2.2 : id 5202686
Filters : : CASEWORK 2.3 : id 5202687

[DoTheBIM]

This entire thread reads like a beta forum. Sigh....:shock:<sighs & hangs head>No comment! Mother always said If I don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all...

[twiceroadsfool]

I dont get the pop up dialogue anymore, when i use Set Work Plane in a 3D view. So if i want the dialogue so i can pick a named reference plane, i have to go to an Elevation (any one), hit Set Work Plane, get the dialogue, select the ref plane, then go back to 3D, lol...

[dzatto]

my QAT keeps disappearing on my.

Also, and this is really frustrating, my wall join tool crashes Revit. Every time. This just started today.

[jrobbins]

Having issues with graphics card compatibility. The driver that's tested with my (old) ATI FireGL 3100 is not available anywhere. (The tested/ approved driver seems to have been released in 2004 or 2005). With hardware acceleration disabled, I'm completely unable to work with crop regions for views. With hardware acceleration enabled, I get the blue screen every 10 minutes or so regardless of driver version.

I can understand the crashes with hardware acceleration enabled, but with it disabled, I'd expect things to work, albeit slowly.

[cliff collins]

The older ATI card may not be set up for Direct 3D graphics--probably worked OK
with Open GL in earlier vesions of Revit... just a hunch.

cheers

[narlee]

Revit crashing when editing in-place families that are joined to multiple walls, but not consistently. I don't know what factors are causing it:

Then, when I open Revit, it thinks I have a second instance of Revit open:

"Visual Studio Tools for Applications (VSTA) is disabled for this Revit session.

VSTA can only link to one Revit session per installation. An active session of Revit Architecture is already using VSTA."

[narlee]

The Move tool doesn't work moving pattern lines on models.

[dbaldacchino]

Hmmm works here. Are you sure you assigned a model pattern to a wall for example? You have to tab to highlight one of the line segments and then rotate or move.

[RevitRonin]

OK, the type selector doesn't work for Roofs or Floors. You have to go to Type Properties to select the type.

Also, Transfer Project Standards doesn't work if you leave all of the boxes selected (maybe it was always like this?). It looks like it did something and gives no messages, but nothing gets transferred. It only worked after I deselected items that were not relevant to my version of the software (Architecture).

[dbourke]

In 3d view (aligned to front) using Mirror with draw line option brings up error message, but doesn't crash for me.

[fernando]

Why my Revit (any of the 3 versions) start normal, but when I choose a file to opne, or even create a new one, get aroun 2 ou 5 minutes. After that, for isntance opena working file, all the nex ones, new or old, opens very quickly.

Looks like in the first open, it takes time searching form something, in my machine, or in the Web,

Any help??? I will be happy if some one had an answer...

[bulletproofdesign]

OK, the type selector doesn't work for Roofs or Floors. You have to go to Type Properties to select the type.

Also, Transfer Project Standards doesn't work if you leave all of the boxes selected (maybe it was always like this?). It looks like it did something and gives no messages, but nothing gets transferred. It only worked after I deselected items that were not relevant to my version of the software (Architecture).

The properties box is effectively the new type selector. As it is designed to be persistent. This saves real estate on the ribbon. This is true for all except lines (and any other thing I overlooked) and I like it. The persistent properties palelle is overdue and present in many mature software packages.

[cadclips]

Wow this 18 page thread is BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUTAL. There has to be a better way.

I have a Plot bug showing up on both my Vista 64 and XP 32 machines.

When I use the 'Linework' tool to change a linestyle of a line that is classified as 'Beyond' (like a footing in a foundation plan) it works graphically but will not Plot or Plot Preview?? The altered lines just don't show up when plotting.

This is easy to recreate. . . . can anyone else confirm??
1. Make sure the object is being graphically controlled by the <beyond> linestyle (use view range).
2. Use the linework tool to alter the 'beyond' linework.
3. Now Plot preview . . . are you seeing the altered linework??

The only work around is to change the line pattern of the Linestyle <beyond> which changes ALL 'beyond' linework in the project. Not what you want.

Maybe it's a bad habit but I have always found it easiest to just use the 'linework' tool to change my footing linestyles because they are almost always 'beyond' and therefore don't follow normal object style overrides.

[narlee]

Somewhere along the line, Revit lost its memory on my preference for NOT Chaining my lines.

[narlee]

Hmmm works here. Are you sure you assigned a model pattern to a wall for example? You have to tab to highlight one of the line segments and then rotate or move.

Hmmm. Now, it's working. May have been related to a crash. Sorry!~

[bulletproofdesign]

Hmmm. Now, it's working. May have been related to a crash. Sorry!~

There seems to be a few tempremental tools in 2011. I have sent a few support requests, only to find that the error is now unreproduceable....

You are not alone...

[RevitRonin]

The properties box is effectively the new type selector. As it is designed to be persistent. This saves real estate on the ribbon. This is true for all except lines (and any other thing I overlooked) and I like it. The persistent properties palelle is overdue and present in many mature software packages.

I understand and agree completely, but it works differently for roofs and floors than anything else(unless it's a bug that my installation picked up from the extensions).

[eschappe]

I understand and agree completely, but it works differently for roofs and floors than anything else(unless it's a bug that my installation picked up from the extensions).

I haven't installed any of the extensions and I am seeing the same thing along with everyone else in our office on 2011. I think its just an oversight on the part of Autodesk that they left out the type selector.

[truevis]

This is the opposite of a bug!

The Help (http://www.blogger.com/Changes%20made%20to%20the%20keynote%20table%20are%20not%20available%20in%20the%20current%20project%20session%20of%20Revit%20Architecturehttp://docs.autodesk.com/REVIT/2011/ENU/filesUsersGuide/WS1a9193826455f5ff4d2e22109db342701-7fd8.htm) says "Changes made to the keynote table are not available in the current project session of Revit Architecture" but that's not true, I could just Browse for Keynote File again and the keynotes were updated. :)

[RevitRonin]

Wow this 18 page thread is BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUTAL. There has to be a better way.

I have a Plot bug showing up on both my Vista 64 and XP 32 machines.

When I use the 'Linework' tool to change a linestyle of a line that is classified as 'Beyond' (like a footing in a foundation plan) it works graphically but will not Plot or Plot Preview?? The altered lines just don't show up when plotting.

This is easy to recreate. . . . can anyone else confirm??
1. Make sure the object is being graphically controlled by the <beyond> linestyle (use view range).
2. Use the linework tool to alter the 'beyond' linework.
3. Now Plot preview . . . are you seeing the altered linework??

The only work around is to change the line pattern of the Linestyle <beyond> which changes ALL 'beyond' linework in the project. Not what you want.

Maybe it's a bad habit but I have always found it easiest to just use the 'linework' tool to change my footing linestyles because they are almost always 'beyond' and therefore don't follow normal object style overrides.

I couldn't duplicate this consistantly. Everything previews correctly when the "Hidden Line Views" setting is set to Raster Processing. Using the Vector setting always results in missing linework of variouse kinds, depending on the other print settings and zoom levels of the preview.

[dbaldacchino]

Not sure this is a bug, but it sure seems like it....

In the Family Editor we can now change labeled dimensions in-canvas. We have the option to lock those dimensions via the lock symbol or checking the Lock checkbox in the Family Types dialog. However you can still just type in a dimension within the label in-canvas and the objects move regardless of the lock. That's not how 2010 acted (in a mass family) and to me, it just doesn't seem right. You will get a constraint error if you try dragging geometry constrained with locked labels, but not if you type a value in-canvas. I thought the whole concept of locking was so that you force the user to go to the Family Types dialog to change labeled dimensions.

EDIT: For reference, here's what the Help says on the subject (http://docs.autodesk.com/REVIT/2011/ENU/filesUsersGuide/WS1a9193826455f5ff-792ef2e611f6fb4710d-5198.htm), which points to this being a bug. I filed a SR and will post an update once I hear back.

[Manuel_A]

Hi all,

Has anyone seen this error before?

In Revit 2011
WSCommCntr2.exe = InfoCenter

Should I just disable the InfoCenter...

It only happens when Revit starts up

System: Lenovo W701

Intel i7-920XM
Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
NVIDIA FX 3800M
16GB RAM @ 1333MHz

A HOT FIX With no file to download:
http://images.autodesk.com/adsk/files/autodesk_infocenter_hot_fix_readme.htm#Files_Patched_by_This_Service_Pack_


Thank You,

[twiceroadsfool]

Not sure this is a bug, but it sure seems like it....

In the Family Editor we can now change labeled dimensions in-canvas. We have the option to lock those dimensions via the lock symbol or checking the Lock checkbox in the Family Types dialog. However you can still just type in a dimension within the label in-canvas and the objects move regardless of the lock. That's not how 2010 acted (in a mass family) and to me, it just doesn't seem right. You will get a constraint error if you try dragging geometry constrained with locked labels, but not if you type a value in-canvas. I thought the whole concept of locking was so that you force the user to go to the Family Types dialog to change labeled dimensions.

EDIT: For reference, here's what the Help says on the subject (http://docs.autodesk.com/REVIT/2011/ENU/filesUsersGuide/WS1a9193826455f5ff-792ef2e611f6fb4710d-5198.htm), which points to this being a bug. I filed a SR and will post an update once I hear back.

I was under the impression the ability to change the value in canvas was a new thing they added to make testing family flexing easier. It is finicky about how it works, and with the palette, i use it rarely, but its nice nonetheless...

[dbaldacchino]

Editing in canvas was possible in massing families in 2010 too. But if the labeled dimension is locked, it shouldn't be editable. You should only be able to change it in the Family Types dialog or unlock the label first, then edit and re-lock. The help documentation sort of suggests this workflow.

[stuntmonkee]

Not an end all, but if you are typing info into the element properties window, and your cursor moves into the project browser or simply just out of the element properties window, it unselects? Deselects? Removes the info you just started typing.

So imagine you are typing info into this forum, and then you move the cursor from the yping area and onto another window. . . .it would delete everything you just typed, and you would have to re-click in the window to start typing again.

Making Muddy Sence,
Stunts

[stuntmonkee]

Also, not a bug, but something to note durring your upgrades.

When upgrading to 2011, if you have linked view, you will need to check the worksets tab in vis/graphics. It defaults to "by host view", but it should also be set to "by linked view" (if the view has some worksets turned on or off).

Stunts

[DoTheBIM]

...you move the cursor from the yping area and onto another window. . . .it would delete everything you just typed....I don't get the same behavior. Everything I type it saves and applies the changes whenever the cursor moves away from the properties pallet as designed.

[gordolake]

While waiting to upgrade a previous project firefox (x64) will not respond from minimised untill revit has completed.

[rdaniel]

I recently upgraded a 2010 project to 2011 - all seemed to be fine. That is until I wanted to work on the north elevation of the building. This particular view caused a fatal error when either it was opened or the sheet it was located on was opened. So after determining there was not way around it, I decided to just delete the view, audit the file and recreate it from scratch. However, the new north elevation view causes the file to crash as well. I can place the elevation, but when I begin making adjustments - adjust view depth, apply a view template, duplicate it, etc. - BOOM, fatal error and there goes Revit. I've tried copying other elevations and rotating them to the face south (among other sneaky workarounds), but still no luck. Talk about weird. I know elevations had some workover in 2011 so that the tags can be customized - evidently they took out the ability to place a south-facing elevation view.

* Adesk found the item (floor) that was causing the crash whenever it was cut. It was evidently corrupted during the upgrade process. I was indirectly advised not to update projects between versions from now on - sort of a "you can buy the product from us, but don't expect to be able to use it" deal. All seems to be working fine for now.

[benmay]

I have found a printing bug which has been confirmed by Autodesk.

To acheive structural drawings with solid fill hatching for elements under, a workaround used is to create two plans and overlay them onto the sheet, this worked fine in previous versions of Revit

With my previous default settings 2011 will not print model cut patterns as transparent when the model category is set to transparent. It just leaves them as opque hatch and masks anything under

I can change my settings to Raster Processing and the problem is solved, however for PDF creation I have noted that processing time is about 3 times slower

Autodesk have confirmed this is a bug and are looking into it.

[xiqx]

Could someone try to create a new view template from a section view --> view tab --> view template settings --> change the far clipping form something to no clip. It doesn't change for me.

[dbaldacchino]

No Clip won't stick for me either. Seems like a bug. I would file a support request.

[welcomehomestudio]

Workaround - Select the view template: "Architectural Elevations", duplicate this view template and rename it, then apply the duplicated view template to the section view. The "no clip" sticks. When an "out-of -box" template is used, and duplicated, then given a new name.. the same creation steps are used to create a new Material. Is this the best way to make a new, view template?

[darryl_PRP]

Transfer project standards is unreliable for me, works most of the time, but often doesn't update materials or objects that have only had one setting changed. Very irritating.

So many crashes, but probably due to large model we are working on.

On said model, shadows one day decided to stop working on all linked files, meaning our output now practically useless. Its gonna be flat monochrome elevations for us.

Autodesk have our files and as yet can't figure out the problem. I'm not impressed and really regret upgrading from 2010.

[4Stroke]

Hi,

Just had a very strange thing happen in 64 bit Revit 2011 on a stand alone file.(not worksets)

I was working on my file (for a few hours), making some basic changes to some walls. All of a sudden I was not able to select anything by picking, or drtagging windows. I persevered for a while, (30 secs), then the screen flashed and my model reverted back to the last saved file!.

I left it as is, made a copy of the main file to verify, and yes, it had reverted back to my last good copy. I have made a copy of my journal file, but dont understand the contents. There was a file in the journals folder, and I made a copy of it, and it contained an upto date version of the file.

Really not sure what just went on.

Just remembered that a week ago, on the same file, when i opened it in the morning, I noticed that a lot of work was missing. Tried to go back to the earlier file saved, but could only get some things back. Had to redo my work. Thought it was some strange thing I had done, and moved on..

Is revit caching changes somehow?. Is seems as though when the graphics went strangea, I lost things. Might check my event logs.
- Just checked. Nothing in there.

[samov]

Just wanted to report a lot of unreliable behavior in Revit.

In a 3D view click the view cube and select one side left or right. Click the stairs tool. Crash.

Sometimes when clicking a tool in a view that it can't act on, things will crash.

[Wes Macaulay]

Hi Samov -- I can't reproduce the behaviour you're mentioning :beer:

[sami]

I’m getting strange behaviour with 2011, every now and then the cursor stops highlighting selections, I can still make changes to the model but I need to pan or zoom in or out to refresh the screen..
Once I restart Revit things go back to normal..

The files I’ve gotten this problem with are not necessarily large or complex files..

Any ideas..
I’m on Revit Architecture 2011, Build 20100326_1700, windows XP professional version 2002 service pack 3, 4 GB RAM

[dzatto]

I’m getting strange behaviour with 2011, every now and then the cursor stops highlighting selections, I can still make changes to the model but I need to pan or zoom in or out to refresh the screen..
Once I restart Revit things go back to normal..

The files I’ve gotten this problem with are not necessarily large or complex files..

Any ideas..
I’m on Revit Architecture 2011, Build 20100326_1700, windows XP professional version 2002 service pack 3, 4 GB RAM
I had something similar happening. My views would freeze. I would have to close them and reopen them. Then they would work for a few minutes and freeze again.

I installed the approved video drivers and it fixed the problem.

[rdaniel]

We have a user in our office experiencing the vanishing selection box as well.

[twiceroadsfool]

We have the vanishing selection box, but weve isolated it to occuring when users change instance properties in the modeless palette, and then click back in to the model window without using the Apply button. Changing another instance parameter and then clicking the apply button then restores the graphics to normal...

[heath.simone]

It was a bug with 2009, and 2010 Network Deployments which still isn't fixed.

If you create a network deployment and tick skip content installation, it actually installs the content (all be it the IES information) back to the network deployment location.

If you have a look at the content.rcl files in the deployment image you will see:

[silentTargets]
utilities=\\servername\yourpackagelocation\Content\

Then:


language=[any]
units=[any]
name=IES
locale=[any]
[B]type=Utilities
size=0.2MB
filename=IES.cab
description=IES
usage=[any]
overwrite=0
bytes=232304
cabbytes=63750
inisetting=IESFileLocation
subfolder=IES
fullpath=\\servername\yourpackagelocation\AdminImage\ContentAll\IES.cab
downloadpath=\\servername\yourpackagelocation\AdminImage\ContentAll\IES.cab

[czytycn]

Hi Samov -- I can't reproduce the behaviour you're mentioning :beer:

I can; however, reproduce the behaviour your mentioning quite well :beer:

[Wes Macaulay]

I can; however, reproduce the behaviour your mentioning quite well :beer:
Well as if THAT was a surprise: how else would you end up with 6 kids? :mrgreen:

http://forums.augi.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=74691&stc=1&d=1275607965

[sami]

We have the vanishing selection box, but weve isolated it to occuring when users change instance properties in the modeless palette, and then click back in to the model window without using the Apply button. Changing another instance parameter and then clicking the apply button then restores the graphics to normal...

thanks Aaron, changing another instance then clicking apply does seem to get things back to normal..

[stuntmonkee]

This isn't a bug as much as it was an unexpected changed from 2009 - 2010, but didn't notice because the project that was effect was in 2009 till last week.

In 2009, if you exported a file to DWG using the "Short Name" convention, it would add spaces to the file name that would real the same as the view name.

In 2010/2011, it no longer does that.

Not a big deal for new projects, but out consultants are all referencing files with the previous naming convention.

I'm going to assume there's no way to change it back?

Thanks,
Stunts

[RobG]

rifled through the bug report, didn't see anything about this.. thought i'd add it seeing as i'm not the only one having this issue..

http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=119563

"Orient to view" is keeping the scope box horizontal, even when telling it to use a section that has been rotated in elevation. It worked great up till 2010 and *poof* no more!

thanks!

[isaac.hedberg]

I've had 2011 (x64 on Win 7) crash on me twice now for the same thing. I've been in the window command, and move to the un-docked properties dialog to change the type. At that point it will give me an error that the object is out of a host and ask if I want to save a recovery file.

[DoTheBIM]

I've had 2011 (x64 on Win 7) crash on me twice now for the same thing. I've been in the window command, and move to the un-docked properties dialog to change the type. At that point it will give me an error that the object is out of a host and ask if I want to save a recovery file.
I've noticed similar behavior but I've not gotten a crash. If Revit hasn't completely finished placing/drawing the window and you click on the type selector to pick your next window, I get the same exact error. It's like the docked properties pallet isn't visible to revit while placing/drawing components for a split second so your actually picking some area out in space. If you actually had a wall behind where you clicked it would probably place a window that you didn't want.

[samov]

Revit 2011 - Escher bug...

Has anyone noticed the way model lines look in a 3d view? Is this Revit 2011 specific, or was it a "feature" older versions too?

This is an example... each set of lines is drawn in it's own level... check out the brown and green..

[vgonzales]

Visibility Graphics bug - Cannot apply Category based overrides in any view. Floor plans especially.

For example, go to the floor plan and go to visibilty graphics. Override the cut and projection lineweights and colors. Nothing changes in the view.

[samov]

I did not apply any override. I have some Custom Line Styles. I drew the outline of the building in different views. Then went to a 3D View and then Visibility and hid everything execept Lines.

The bug seems to be the way revit draws the lines on screen.

[Wes Macaulay]

For example, go to the floor plan and go to visibilty graphics. Override the cut and projection lineweights and colors. Nothing changes in the view.
I can't reproduce this... what's going on at your end?

[vgonzales]

The floor plan views that I am having problems are ones that contain new and existing phases. The graphic category overrides only work on the new construction items and not on the existing phase items.

[wmullett]

Structural columns do not display right in detail plan view callouts. This was also true in 2010.

If you place a concrete structural column so that it intersects a wall, the column will cut (hide) the wall in the intersection in both plan view and floor plan, call out but in a detail plan, call out, both the wall and column will be shown unless you join geometry.

[patricks]

Options bar STILL shifts around and duplicates itself in project files with other Revit files linked in! ARRGHHHHHH!!!!!!!

It still only happens on the first selection for me, then it's back to normal after hitting Undo on the shifted object (or checking off Press & Drag and checking it back on again), so it's not too bad. But still... ARRRGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! :p

[ArchitortureIntern]

Here's a good one... I cannot open a file by the conventional means. I go to File, Open, and crashes out. Happens every time.

[nrubens_99]

Si, I have been experimenting with Photogrametry where i take a bunch of pictures load them into photosynth and extract point cloud data. It's kind of a poor-mans laser scanner. Anyway,i can get the point cloud file loaded into Autocad 2011 and saved to a dwg. i then link the dwg into revit. i can see the point cloud data in plan and elevation, but when in a 3d view i have to zoom in close to the point clouds to see them. The behavior is controlled by the line weight value in object styles dialogue box. as i zoom out, the points simply disappear. I think this is a direct x display issue. should i report this to Autodesk?

[jj mac]

I have had this warning (attached), when upgrading from 2010.

Basically telling me that my plan regions were using a deleted level to define their work planes.

I think the error is basically telling me that Revit has found an issuewith the plan regions and it's going to 'correct itself'; however, we have not deleted any levels in the project, so I don't really know why this would be happening...

Any ideas very much appriciated.

[rhayden]

This worked for me. So I thought I would share.

http://whatrevitwants.blogspot.com/2009/08/click-move-drag-error-revit-2010-fix.html

[aargumaniz]

The floor plan views that I am having problems are ones that contain new and existing phases. The graphic category overrides only work on the new construction items and not on the existing phase items.


I have a related issue. While using phasing, the infill wall will not show up with a delineated outline in elevation view. I have verified that my phasing is set to previous and new for the elevation view. I have looked at the phasing settings to see if anything was overwritten. Everything looks correct, but I can't get the outline.

What is interesting is that I have a different wall type where a window has been demolished and the infill outline does show in elevation view (both of these walls are on the same elevation view).

Anyone having these issues?

Edit:
I added a new window next to the demod door and the outline to the inifll wall appeared. I undid and re-added the window and now the window doesn't show up correctly. Graphics issue?

[dbartley]

The ONLY way I've found to remedy it is to change the material preview swatch in the Render Appearance tab to the DRAFT quality display.

I cannot open the Material dialog at all, regardless of the render quality of the swatch. As soon as I close the dialog, Revit crashes.

[narlee]

I didn't use Revit 2010, but this ANNOYING feature did not occur in Revit 2009. When I'm inputting info in the Properties Dialogue box, if my cursor strays out of the input box (or the dropdown boxes, too) the box reverts to its previous setting/info. Any little "mis-hovering" sets it off and it's very, very annoying.

Previously, if my cursor strayed, the box didn't "close down" on me, but knew I was still editing it until I hit Enter or changed to another input box within the Dialogue Box. On the other hand, if I'm in the Workset or Options dropdown boxes, this problem does not occur.

[Wes Macaulay]

Hi Geoff -- I think this is by design. The idea is that you don't have to hit Apply for Apply to apply :screwy:

That doesn't bother me too much -- have you got SP1 installed?

[dbaldacchino]

Funny you should mention it!

http://do-u-revit.blogspot.com/2010/08/properties-palette-annoyance.html

[narlee]

Funny you should mention it!

http://do-u-revit.blogspot.com/2010/08/properties-palette-annoyance.html

HA! Yes, I'm with him. Wes, thanks for that explanation - at least I understand the rationale. Plus, I just realized that if I at least stay within the boundaries of the Dialogue Box, I'm ok. But, I'm afraid I'm like DB and tend to move my mouse off to the side as I type. I shall change my ways!

[bulletproofdesign]

I didn't use Revit 2010, but this ANNOYING feature did not occur in Revit 2009. When I'm inputting info in the Properties Dialogue box, if my cursor strays out of the input box (or the dropdown boxes, too) the box reverts to its previous setting/info. Any little "mis-hovering" sets it off and it's very, very annoying.

Previously, if my cursor strayed, the box didn't "close down" on me, but knew I was still editing it until I hit Enter or changed to another input box within the Dialogue Box. On the other hand, if I'm in the Workset or Options dropdown boxes, this problem does not occur.

Narlee,

This problem did happen with text inputs like 'offset' that would 'apply' themselves if you moved your mouse... For my install, settings don't 'revert' as such, they just 'apply' when the mosue strays (why is my mouse moving when I am entering text?).

The idea is that when your mouse leaves the box, the settings apply. This replaces an 'OK' click. I, like many others was tired of the number of clicks to get out of the settings boxes. Now that there is a persistent properties box, many clicks have disappeared. Granted it takes a little while to get used to it, and still catches me on occasion. I like not having to spend so many clicks to turn on section boxes, or change the view depth.

I like it!... P.S. 2010 didn't have this, it had bugs galore instead

[twaldock]

Funny you should mention it!

http://do-u-revit.blogspot.com/2010/08/properties-palette-annoyance.html

David,
Just read your blog, and I'm not sure I agree with you. I remember at some point during alpha/beta testing of 2011, it worked slightly differently to how it currently does:
When you moved the mouse off the palette, it applied the changes, but the focus stayed on the field in the palette. If you tried to type in a shortcut key, thinking that you'd finished and onto the next task - all it did was add the characters you typed for the shortcut into the last used field; either you'd get an error message or else it changed a value without you even realising (seriously bad news - it caused mayhem in my testing). You suggested a click on the screen (off palette) to shift focus and apply - but my experience was that I often forgot to do that click before typing my keyboard shortcut. Same problem would occur with the scroll wheel if the field had a drop down menu - it just scrolled through the options in the menu without you realising it was changing.

Thank goodness they changed it to the current method (focus goes off the field when mouse goes off palette) - it is much safer, and just requires a change of habit in how you use Revit. What I do is put the properties palette on my second monitor and make it really big (most of the screen) so that the cursor stays on it unless I move it right over to the other monitor.

Tim Waldock
PTW

[narlee]

Narlee,

For my install, settings don't 'revert' as such, they just 'apply' when the mosue strays

Yes, yes. You're right/my error. That must be why you are "bulletproof"!:)

[ak.ahmed88]

hi everyone ... m new to this community ...
even i'v been getting the error code 0 while installing revit 2011 ...
somebody pls help ....

[cadclips]

Educational software ?


I see there's something here but I cannot get to it > http://students.autodesk.com/?nd=m_adskquestions&question_id=33245

[RevitRonin]

Can I jump in for a consensus here?

SOoo... there are a few bugs here and there, but it's working well (better in some cases) enough to upgrade accross your entire firm right?

Why are my MEP and Structural (and some Architects) consultants afraid to upgrade?

What are they reading that I'm not?

[dbaldacchino]

I would say something is seriously wrong if you're still pondering whether to move to 2011 or not ;)

[RevitRonin]

Thank you! That's why we made the leap in May. It's worth it for the modelsss properties alone.

Maybe these guys who are hanging back dropped off subscription to save money... that would be seriously wrong.

[cridder_]

This isn't a bug as much as it was an unexpected changed from 2009 - 2010, but didn't notice because the project that was effect was in 2009 till last week.

In 2009, if you exported a file to DWG using the "Short Name" convention, it would add spaces to the file name that would real the same as the view name.

In 2010/2011, it no longer does that.

Not a big deal for new projects, but out consultants are all referencing files with the previous naming convention.

I'm going to assume there's no way to change it back?

Thanks,
Stunts
Still no way to change the file naming back?

Did anyone find a fix

[kmatis]

Here's a couple of more bugs I noticed after installing web update 2 on RAC 2011.
Sometimes when selecting something, wall, door, detail component and trying to change it to another family through the properties dialog box I can't scroll through all of the choices. It just goes up to a certain one and will not go any further. Strange thing is that it will only do it for certain families one time and then in the next Revit session it will do it for another family type. The only way I can change to a different family is to edit type and then select a different family from the pull down.

Another annoying thing is when I'm about to do a command and the automatic sync to central pops up and I sync it Windows switches me to another program I have open so I have to click Revit on the task bar to get back into it.

Anyone else have these problems?

Kevin

[patricks]

Here's a couple of more bugs I noticed after installing web update 2 on RAC 2011.
Sometimes when selecting something, wall, door, detail component and trying to change it to another family through the properties dialog box I can't scroll through all of the choices. It just goes up to a certain one and will not go any further. Strange thing is that it will only do it for certain families one time and then in the next Revit session it will do it for another family type. The only way I can change to a different family is to edit type and then select a different family from the pull down.

Another annoying thing is when I'm about to do a command and the automatic sync to central pops up and I sync it Windows switches me to another program I have open so I have to click Revit on the task bar to get back into it.

Anyone else have these problems?

Kevin

Have not experienced your first issue.

The second, however, I have. Pretty much every time I save or SWC, the Revit taskbar button in Win7 moves itself to the far right end of the row, and focus shifts off of itself to another window. It's never really been an issue to me, though.

[Haden]

When editing a group in 2011 the defult is for the edit group ribbon pannel to be "torn off" of the Ribbon and placed in the upper left corner of the canvas. This can be dragged and positioned elsewhere on the screen. Perhaps it is opening off screen somewhere, or positioned where you are not seeing it?

This is exactly the case with my Revit window right now (RAC 2011). I have had this problem with other windows in the past, probably because I use a split desktop between 2 monitors, but this time, the <Alt>+<Spacebar> menu will not bring up a menu for the torn-off panel.

Can anyone tell me how to either dock it or at least "find" it and center it in front of my main Revit window? Thanks.

[Christ71]

Hey friends Sorry to interrupt Please help me ,regarding the installation of Revit Architecture 2011.
I am facing problems in installing the following files:
SamplesRAC.cab,
ENUHelp.cab,
ENUSetupDocs.cab
The content installer could't find the file and always reporting Error :

" the file is Invalid [Skip or Retry] ' [/SIZE][/B]

some thing like this ....
Please Help Me............:cry::cry::cry: