Plotting Problems - view windows shifting

[thsmith1804]

Hello all,

This is my first post and here is my issue: I have been training and working with Revit for 2 months now and I have been having problems with my Plot Sheets not staying consistant. I have been creating crop windows for my plans and it seems like every couple days the view within the crop window shifts. Grid lines spread all over the screen as well. I thought this might have something to do with the orthagonal grids we created for this ballpark, but I'm not sure. Anyway, This causes me to have to go back and spend a day or two fixing my plot sheets. We're on the verge of issuing our DD set and I would like to have this problem resolved before then. If you can help, please respond asap!

Thanks

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[beegee]

Welcome,

(Quote from Jim Balding
If you turn on your crop region, set the rectangular extents of the crop region and then uncheck the crop region visible it will maintain the region you set and not reset to the extents as you are describing. (The key here being leave the crop region checked and check and uncheck the visibility)


Refer this thread
(www.zoogdesign.com/forums/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=563&highlight=crop)

[thsmith1804]

I have tried what you are describing for the last month and I'm still having problems. I don't know if this has to do with the size of the project I'm working on or the use of polar grids, but I'm getting very frustrated with this.

The inconsistancy of cropped regions of floor plans is by far my biggest complaint of Revit (even more than Central File crashes). My heart skips a beat each morning I come into the office and open my file...I just wait to see if I will be spending a weekend fixing plot sheets or not.

This really concerns me when we start doing revisions. What's going to happen when I place my clouds and deltas? I can use reference planes to locate corners of buildings, but this is not the "percision" I'm looking for.

[JamesVan]

I've had the same problem before. CLICK HERE (http://www.zoogdesign.com/forums/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=887)
The problem seemed to be with the Reference Planes. Whenever I created new ones, all associated views that were on sheets would expand, regardless of the presence of a crop boudary. I was trying to find more information from my last thread, but I'm pretty sure the Revit team considers this a bug and will address it soon.

In the meantime, you could either:
1. Duplicate the views and turn off the visibility of reference planes in the views that are on the sheets or,
2. Turn off reference planes in each view template and reapply.[/list]

[thsmith1804]

By duplicating the views, I assume this will increase the size of the file dramatically? I'm already working with a 45 MB file and this is a smaller project compared to what my office typically does.

[JamesVan]

If you duplicate a view without the detailing, then use the view without the notes and stuff (the "detailing") to do your model editing, it shouldn't increase the file size too much because it's just another ancillary view of the building model.

To clarify:
- The view with all the detailing stays on the sheet, just turn off the ref planes.
- The copied view, ref planes ON, without detailing, is where you'd do your editing.

Does that make sense? HTH

[LMSmith]

Another way to control datums (grids, levels, and reference planes) is to use a Scope Box (see Revit Help on scope boxes) Basically you can assign datums to a scope box (which has 3 dimensions) to only make them show up in views that are contained within or cross the scope box. This is useful for column grids that may be limited to certain floors, but also for reference planes that only refer to one part of a building. The scope box will keep datums from infinitely expanding in other views - thereby messing up your viewports. Also beware of imports with large extents - these can cause datums to extend beyond what you might expect.

[thsmith1804]

Well, I have a seating bowl that requires radial grids and I need those grids to extend to the outer perimeter buildings sometimes; therefore, scope boxes haven't helped that portion of my project.