beams and porches showing on first floor

[dzatto]

just a quick question, I noticed on one of the sample projects that they have an awning type of roof located above the front doors that shows up on the first floor level as dashed (above) linetype. I checked to see if it had a plan region, and it didn't.

How did they do that? I have several structural timbers in a custom residential house that I need to show on the first floor plan as dashed. I couldn't get them to show up, so I just traced over them with detail lines. Probably not the correct way to do it, but I need to get this out by today.

Any ideas, other than drawing a plan region around every beam? That's too time consuming. Is there not a way to show stuff above the cut plane as dashed? I tried messing with the visibliy settings, but nothing worked.

[rkitect]

Without having the model up, I would guess they did an underlay oriented to ceiling plan and used the lineworks tool. I'll double check.

[Alfredo Medina]

The way you do this is by using underlay, as Carl correctly guessed. For this one story small sample project in the illustration provided, the steps are: View properties > Underlay > Level 2. Then, Modify > Linework > Overhead. Select which lines of the roof you want to see in your Level 1. You may want to see just the outline, or all; you select the lines you need. Then go back to View properties > Underlay > None. The cool thing about it is that even though these look like lines, and the roof is hidden now, they are still associated with the roof. If you edit the roof, these projection lines update as well. It is great for showing the projection of roofs, slab overhangs, canopies, etc on the lower levels.

[cliff collins]

Alfredo beat me to it. Exactly.

try doing that in ADT/ACA?

"view representation sets" ??? lol

sipping more Kool-aid.......


cheers

[rkitect]

... If you edit the roof, these projection lines update as well...

To a certain extent. If you modify the roof or elements too heavily Revit will decide it has no clue how to handle the lineworks lines and just delete them. Best to do this towards the end of a project.

[rkitect]

Finally got around to opening that project and checking. You can verify this method by entering the lineworks tool and hovering over one of the lines. The status bar and tooltip (if you have them on) will tell you which line style is being used for the current lineworks style.

hTh

[dzatto]

Alfredo beat me to it. Exactly.

try doing that in ADT/ACA?

"view representation sets" ??? lol

sipping more Kool-aid.......


cheers
Actually, all I'd have to do in ACA is open the display properties of the beam type, and set the "above cut plane" to on. Then change the line type.

As long as I can do it in Revit and it's easy, I don't care how it's done! lol


The way you do this is by using underlay, as Carl correctly guessed. For this one story small sample project in the illustration provided, the steps are: View properties > Underlay > Level 2. Then, Modify > Linework > Overhead. Select which lines of the roof you want to see in your Level 1. You may want to see just the outline, or all; you select the lines you need. Then go back to View properties > Underlay > None. The cool thing about it is that even though these look like lines, and the roof is hidden now, they are still associated with the roof. If you edit the roof, these projection lines update as well. It is great for showing the projection of roofs, slab overhangs, canopies, etc on the lower levels.

Holy Carp!!! that's freaking amazing. It just clicked (I love ti when that happens). I didn't know you could do an underlay and view it from below. And the "just clicked" part is the overhead line. I'm assuming it's made to still show when you turn the underlay off, since it's overhead? That's freaking cool.

[dzatto]

Finally got around to opening that project and checking. You can verify this method by entering the lineworks tool and hovering over one of the lines. The status bar and tooltip (if you have them on) will tell you which line style is being used for the current lineworks style.

hTh
Yep, it helps a lot.

I just realized I'm usually on the ACA forums helping out people, and learning some new things. Now that I'm on Revit, I'm the noob! It's the circle of life. lol

[cliff collins]

I meant the "holy carp" part.........

cheers