Room not properly enclosed...YES IT IS!

[chris_3302]

Co-worker is working on a project and can not seem to place a "room." She gets an error saying that the room is not properly enclosed, even though it's clearly enclosed. She has restarted Revit and even her computer. I audited and purged the file, but nothing is working. Please see attached image of the room and the error. This is happening in the whole project, no matter the room. Any help!?

[twiceroadsfool]

Take room seperation lines and divide the room in to quadrants. See which corner isnt bound. Start to narrow it down. Obviously something that appears to be bounding... Isnt.

[need4mospd]

Is the "Room Bounding" box is checked on all the walls?

[chris_3302]

I created room separation lines (red-dashed) and it still is not enclosing. See attached image. And yes, the room bounding is checked.

I'm starting to think that this file is corrupt and I may have to contact Autodesk Support...

[ron.sanpedro]

I created room separation lines (red-dashed) and it still is not enclosing. See attached image. And yes, the room bounding is checked.

I'm starting to think that this file is corrupt and I may have to contact Autodesk Support...

You might try an audit. I have seen that fix some odd behaviors.

Gordon

[rkitect]

Check to make sure that your view didn't some how become associated with a different level or even try placing the room in a completely new plan view.

[chris_3302]

Already audited and it didn't help. I tried to add rooms in different levels and views, but had no success. The good thing is even though the rooms are not enclosed, you can still tag and use it's parameters for scheduling. We will probably just use area plans for any calculations.

But any other ideas, please shoot them my way. :)

[twiceroadsfool]

What is the Level that view was created on? Are you sure youre placing the room seperators and the room itself on the same level?

[ron.sanpedro]

Already audited and it didn't help. I tried to add rooms in different levels and views, but had no success. The good thing is even though the rooms are not enclosed, you can still tag and use it's parameters for scheduling. We will probably just use area plans for any calculations.

But any other ideas, please shoot them my way. :)

You might want to open a support incident and upload the file to Autodesk. They may be able to tell you how to fix it, or at least allow you to receive a fixed version back. Transferring work that has continued while they worked on the upload can be frustrating, however.

Gordon

[josh.made4worship]

Yeah, my only two guesses are that your cut plane is set wierd or that all the walls you have there aren't set to bounding.

I have had problems with the cut plane in the past causing the walls not the bound the rooms correctly...it also can do some wierd things when phases are being used...

just a couple thoughts to look into...

[twiceroadsfool]

How big is the file? Im stuck in a hotel tonight. If you want, i can email you FTP site information and look at it. Ive got twenty i can figure it out in 30 minutes or less. ;)

[Steve_Stafford]

Using worksets? Is the active workset on/visible in the view? Can you add the room in a different view of the same level?

[jcoe]

Are you using Design Options? Having walls in a design option while trying to place the room in the main model would also prompt this error.

Are you using linked files? Your linked model may not have "Room Bounding" checked in the type properties of the linked model.

Check the base constraint of the walls. If they are above your cut plane, I believe this will also prompt the same error.

If you are using curtainwalls, make sure they are room bounding also.

That's all I got for now.

[jspartz]

Good suggestions from Jason. Also, I would suggest when placing the room, check the properties to make sure it's trying to put it on the same level. It should by default and is grayed out, but I've had two files that would try to place rooms on another level.

[leeba]

Are any of your doors/windows placed inside openings? i got the "room not enclosed" message after placing an opening to a pipe tunnel in one of my walls. I THINK a room separation line solved that but it was a while ago so perhaps I'm wrong...

[jsnyder.68308]

I had something like this happen a while back. I cut a section through the room and turned on ALL the worksets. I discovered that someone had inadvertantly placed a roof object right on top of the floor on a workset that was for a different building. That hosed the room bounding where the roof was. So I think Steve is on the right track with the worksets - look for stray objects on worksets that might not be visible in the plan view.

[patricks]

I was having this problem with new walls coming into existing walls. Normally I disallow join on the end of a new wall abutting an existing wall (especially a new stud wall up to an existing concrete wall), but for some reason this was confusing the room object. When I allowed the stud wall to join to the concrete wall the room object went in fine.