Centerline Symbol - Font

[miles9x]

Our Standard font is SansSerif. When using the insert symbol pull down from MTEXT (or Unicode \U+2104), the symbol always defaults to ISOCPEUR. (I understand that SansSerif does not have this symbol so it uses a default font that has this symbol) I do not like the look of this symbol in ISOCPEUR font when its with SansSerif or the fact that it is compressed in height, I would much prefer the centerline symbol from ROMANS.

I have searched many forums and have not found that there is a way to specify what font to use when inserting a symbol. Does anybody know how to do this? I suspect I can delete the ISOCPEUR font from everybody's computer forcing it to go down the line to ROMANS but I don't like that solution. I also know that the Options > Files Tab > Text Editor, Dictionary and Font File Names > Alternate Font File variable does not appear to effect the symbol font.

I thought to look at the MTEXT pull down toolbar definition for the insert symbol command to see if the font is embedded into that command, but I didnt' have any luck down that path.

Does anybody have any ideas how I can dictate that our symbols are inserted within text as ROMANS instead of ISOCPEUR?

Thanks.

[jaberwok]

This thread (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=117556)may shed some light (or add more darkness) on the use of shx/ttf fonts in the mtext editor.

[irneb]

I think throwing oily mud over the light source is close to what that thread does :mrgreen:. It makes me scared of using text at all!

I'm sorry to say I can't find anything anywhere which has ISOCPEUR as a setting. Either in the AutoCAD folders (both programs & user) or in registry. So it must be hardwired somewhere, so you can't change this behaviour :cry:

Only solutions I can think of:

Use a different font which does have the centre line symbol, such as Romans.
Change the c/l symbol's font each time you add it.
Have the ℄ of your choice (together with some other symbols) in a Word document and copy-n-paste from there into MText.
Modify / duplicate the font using some TTF font editor (google this) to include the character. This is not recommended as it causes problems with others and it may have licensing issues.

[irneb]

BTW, there are some TTF fonts which do have the CL symbol: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2104/fontsupport.htm

[ccowgill]

we had the same problem with using Arial as our standard font. I was able to use FontForge to add a symbol to the arial font. I dont know about the windows version, but the linux version is open source (free).

[cadtag]

we had the same problem with using Arial as our standard font. I was able to use FontForge to add a symbol to the arial font. I dont know about the windows version, but the linux version is open source (free).

I sincerely hope you renamed your version of Arial to something else. It's a right pain in the elbow for other people who do not have the same 'tweaks' to deal with modified standard fonts. At least with a rename the recipients will be able to know that somethings not right - without the file rename there will just be bogus characters when they look at the drawing, and that's awfully easy to miss.

[irneb]

we had the same problem with using Arial as our standard font. I was able to use FontForge to add a symbol to the arial font. I dont know about the windows version, but the linux version is open source (free).


I sincerely hope you renamed your version of Arial to something else. It's a right pain in the elbow for other people who do not have the same 'tweaks' to deal with modified standard fonts. At least with a rename the recipients will be able to know that somethings not right - without the file rename there will just be bogus characters when they look at the drawing, and that's awfully easy to miss.I second that! You could of course use the Arial MS Unicode font ... but then, it's a bit much seeing as the TTF file is about 22MB (containing even Japanese, Chinese, etc. characters).

[ccowgill]

I sincerely hope you renamed your version of Arial to something else. It's a right pain in the elbow for other people who do not have the same 'tweaks' to deal with modified standard fonts. At least with a rename the recipients will be able to know that somethings not right - without the file rename there will just be bogus characters when they look at the drawing, and that's awfully easy to miss.
yes, I did rename it

[dwbearden]

Our Standard font is SansSerif. When using the insert symbol pull down from MTEXT (or Unicode \U+2104), the symbol always defaults to ISOCPEUR. (I understand that SansSerif does not have this symbol so it uses a default font that has this symbol) I do not like the look of this symbol in ISOCPEUR font when its with SansSerif or the fact that it is compressed in height, I would much prefer the centerline symbol from ROMANS.

I have searched many forums and have not found that there is a way to specify what font to use when inserting a symbol. Does anybody know how to do this? I suspect I can delete the ISOCPEUR font from everybody's computer forcing it to go down the line to ROMANS but I don't like that solution. I also know that the Options > Files Tab > Text Editor, Dictionary and Font File Names > Alternate Font File variable does not appear to effect the symbol font.

I thought to look at the MTEXT pull down toolbar definition for the insert symbol command to see if the font is embedded into that command, but I didnt' have any luck down that path.

Does anybody have any ideas how I can dictate that our symbols are inserted within text as ROMANS instead of ISOCPEUR?

Thanks.

open options, go to files, +open "Text Editor, Dictionary, and Font File Names", +open "Alternate Font File", click the current font (most likely simplex) and change to RomanS. Centerline symbol will now default to what you're wanting.

[john.buckerfield]

open options, go to files, +open "Text Editor, Dictionary, and Font File Names", +open "Alternate Font File", click the current font (most likely simplex) and change to RomanS. Centerline symbol will now default to what you're wanting.


dwbearden,
I'm afraid changing the alternate font file does not work.
I have been chasing a fix for this for months now and according
to autodesk it is not possible. They did suggest changing a registry key
but this did not work.
They have said that they will add the ability to change this to the wish list.
Regards
JohnB

[StDoodle]

Yup, this is one of two things that drove me away from using the "standard" fonts in my office. The final straw, though, was consistent font-embedding problems with ArialUnicodeMS... argh! So I went with open fonts, using mostly FreeSans for dimensions & typical notes. Looks a lot like Arial (most people can't tell the difference), but has no embedding problems & contains a decent -- but not horrendously bloated -- set of Unicode characters. Biggest downside is the horizontal spacing is a bit odd; underlines are WAY too low, and text centered vertically doesn't really appear centered vertically. But that's much easier to deal with than getting back markups where all the non-ASCII characters are squares. ;)