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djkozina
2010-07-26, 03:31 PM
Is there a simple way, after setting up a plan sheet - (laying it out, placing the plan view, etc), to just duplicate it, renumber it, and swap out the one plan view with a plan for another level?

So far, I have not been able to see any way to do this other than adding a new sheet and then rebuilding everything a new sheet 'from scratch' - which, IMO, seems to be an obscenely inefficient method to go about this.

I can' t help but think I must be overlooking something obvious here - but I don't know what... Any tips/guidance would be most appreciated!

Regards,
David Kozina

Richard - CSG
2010-07-26, 07:57 PM
I've not found a way. About the only thing we do is copy and paste-in-same-place the schedules and use a toggle to turn on and off a grid on the title block sheet to match up to other sheets.

Thomas.11326
2010-07-27, 08:49 AM
djkozina,

I agree with you and found myself wondering the same. But after a few projects, I thought to myself "just how time consuming is it really"? The procedure goes:
1. Create sheet
2. Numbering and naming
3. Drag in titleblock and 1 - 2 view and arrange

If your suggestion was possible (as I think not in RST2010?), the procedure would go:
1. Copy sheet
2. Re-numbering and re-naming
3. Deleting views and inserting new views

I fail to see the real time saving - Especially if you use shared parameters in your titleblock and create a drawing list (View -> Create -> Schedule -> Drawing list), from which all data on the sheet can be modified fast and easy.

Does anyone have additional views on the procedure of fast sheet production?

wiseup07
2010-08-03, 06:35 PM
I think the best solution is to spend time up front and set up a project template. The project template I use has about 20 sheets already set up with title blocks (along with commonly used families). I think its faster to swap the title bock to a different family, then to have to make up sheets. You can easily delete sheets you don't need, or you can leave them - just make sure in the sheet properties to uncheck Appears In Drawing List".

BlackBox
2010-08-03, 07:50 PM
I'd strongly recommend against using multiple layout sheets, and make each layout its own .DWG file, for starters.

I regularly work with large plan sets (150-500 sheets). Having the sheets in individual drawings makes it a lot easier to manage with sheet set manager (SSM) or the revit equivalent, and for a team of CAD users to work within the same project at the same time.

Adding custom properties to your SSM's .DST file, and converting a few title block attributes to fields makes plan management a piece of cake (most of which can be automated)! Change it once, and every sheet associated updates automatically - you're done. ;)

More specifically, setup the first of a specific sheet type, then do a ._saveas. The ._saveas process can be automated to incrementally save as the next file name (if not already taken), but that would be outside of this forum's parameters. Let me know if you need help writing the code.

What having each sheet as its own .DWG file does, is preclude the need for significant overlapping of layer information in modelspace (text, dimensions, etc.), that only end up getting frozen in specific viewports.

For example:
If you have 10-50 layouts in a single sheet, and each view overlaps a bit, you have at minimum 10-50 different viewport settings (assuming only one viewport per layout). Why!? :screwy:

Albeit this is meant to be rhetorical, but which takes you longer... FILE > SAVEAS 8), or creating specific layer settings per each-and-every layout viewport :banghead: ?

:: Disclaimer ::
I know we all work a bit differently, but take from this what you will.

Cheers! :beer:

Dimitri Harvalias
2010-08-04, 12:28 AM
Mat,
this is a great post... in the wrong location.;)
Many of us don't speak AutoCAD anymore and terms like SSM, DST File, model space and layer scare and confuse us:lol:

Looks like you stumbled into the Revit forums. Do not be afraid. We can help you see the light as we have.
:beer: right back at ya!