Print 2D items (Drafting View) on multiple sheets?

[Tony C.]

OK,
so we have our 2D details and our single-line diagrams placed in drafting views in Revit MEP. We can create them either in ACAD and link (or insert) them, or we can create them right in Revit. So far, its all good.

These details and 1-line diagrams are brought onto sheets and printed as part of the construction documents. Everything is still just peachy.

Now, when we need to issue addendums of these items we need to print that same 2D view on another sheet. We issue an "EX" or "MX" sheet as a smaller sheet with only the updated area printed.

Therefore, we need to make changes to this 2D detail or diagram, and then print it on the new addendum sheet AND it needs to stay on the original sheet for printing/archiving. Both the new sheet and the original must show the updated detail/diagram. Normally we could do this by creating a dependant view,.. except Revit won't make dependant views of Drafting Views. Alternatively, we could link a single ACAD file of the 2D elements into two drafting views,.. except Revit won't allow that either.


Is there any way to print the same 2D element on multiple sheets???

[bcgatti]

You could create Legends of these details. Legends can be placed on multiple sheets.

[gabecottam428011]

One painful workaround is to just create a snapshot (PDF) of your fullsized sheet and crop it down and reinsert it as an image for your smaller sheet. It's not "live", but it works in a pinch.


Alternatively, we could link a single ACAD file of the 2D elements into two drafting views,.. except Revit won't allow that either.

I have successfully done this, but you can't crop a drafting view to a smaller size.

Another option would be to create a second ACAD dwg and XREF the original dwg into that one - and x-clip it down to the smaller size and link that into Revit. (I haven't tried this though- just brainstorming)

I have also heard of a method that uses a titleblock with a big masking region on it - so you can place it over the full sized view and print just the area that changed. I haven't tried this one either.

[Jmickledesign]

I just duplicate the view and make the changes in the duplicated view then put the new view on the sheet. Works out pretty well. Also, there is a subscription add-on tool that will do a capture of any view you want in revit and will make that view unchangeable from the model. (It basically freezes the view and creates a pdf type view right inside of revit.)

Id give them both a try and see what works best for you.

Good luck,

[joseph_turc]

I just ran across this in a fire protection project. Just like Jmickledesign, I ended up duplicating the drafting view. The end result was the original (untouched), and the addendum view, with both views being completly editable. PIA I know but it worked!

[gabecottam428011]

PIA I know but it worked!

BUT - you now have to maintain any annotation changes in both views :(

[Jrobker]

BUT - you now have to maintain any annotation changes in both views :(

Make the changes in the original drafting view than Duplicate with Detailing and remove the unnecessary.

If it changes again, start with the original.

This way your making changes once.

[gabecottam428011]

Make the changes in the original drafting view than Duplicate with Detailing and remove the unnecessary.

If it changes again, start with the original.

This way your making changes once.

BUT - you still have to re-duplicate every time.
This is one of those "Revit Features" that should be way easier than it is.
The documentation tools in Revit continue to seem like an afterthought.

[kalimazoop]

the freeze drawings extension add-in that Jmickledesign mentioned sounds like an easier solution. Make the change on the single lines as needed. Freeze the drawing makes another drafting view. Place this on your new sheet. That way you are only updating the view once. If changes are made again to your addendum view, delete the old frozen drawing used and replace it with the more recent.

[RobertB]

the freeze drawings extension add-in that Jmickledesign mentioned sounds like an easier solution. Make the change on the single lines as needed. Freeze the drawing makes another drafting view. Place this on your new sheet. That way you are only updating the view once. If changes are made again to your addendum view, delete the old frozen drawing used and replace it with the more recent.You may want to drop the idea of DWG and go this route (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=121294).

[kalimazoop]

You may want to drop the idea of DWG and go this route (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=121294).

Thank You! Also available for Views.

[gabecottam428011]

You may want to drop the idea of DWG and go this route.

Available in 2011, but not previous releases.:(