One Room Not Visible

[wcaramella]

I have a rouge room. The project is a 6 story open office building with two vertical circulation cores and a utility/ restroom core. the rest of the floor plate is open office. All rooms show in their appropriate plans if I turn on interior fill in VG, except the 6th floor open office room and tag. (all the other rooms on this floor are visible). I have deleted the room from the schedule and replaced it, still not visible in plan. I have checked worksets, phasing, design options, hidden elements, plan regions, etc. I have cut a section through the space and, behold, the room is visible in section. It schedules just fine, but i would like to know why I can't seem to find it in plan.

Any thoughts?

WC

[j_starko]

it could be just above, or just below your cut plane ? does it show up fine in section ? like on the right floor, and within your view range ?

[wcaramella]

In section it appears correctly, set to level six with the top set to 14', which is the high side of the roof. I have also set it to 8' which is set to the low side of the roof. The cut plane is at 4' and the view range is at 7' 6".

totally stumped

[j_starko]

yeah strange. Unless someone suggests something better and less destructive, I suggest picking up your computer, running towards the window screaming like a banshee and then throw the computer out the window. repeat this with new computers until the problem solves or the IT department intervenes.

but in all seriousness, this is a baffling problem. if everthing is in check for the floor plans, and other rooms are showing up, but not the one in question, I'm at a loss.

[wmullett]

I will bet you that this room is really not on the same level.

[brendan.225840]

I hada similar problem a few months ago and got pretty much the same answers that you have. None worked and eventually I had to make a dummy room tag. A few weeks later I found it had somehow fixed itself, still no idea what the problem was. Good luck.

[wcaramella]

A few weeks back it just disappeared from the plan view. No explanation, just gone from the plan. Section, it apprears just fine. Thinking about calling tech support, see if they have an answer.

Thanks,

WC

[nancy.mcclure]

This is an old thread, but since it didn't provide a resolution, I thought I'd add to it. We had a 'rogue' room that wouldn't be seen in only ONE view - after checking all the usual suspects: hidden by element, workset assignment, filters - and verifying that it was correctly adjusted in section, we tracked it down to a PLAN REGION that had been placed in that view, slightly overlapping into the room element. That overlap was enough to trigger the entire room as 'out of view range'. Adjusting the plan region brought visibility back.

[m_asipyan517565]

I know this is an old thread but I just had this issue and no one had a resolution that worked for me. After trying to figure out what was wrong I found the solution. I am working on a local file from the central model. So I have certain worksets turned off in certain views. I don't know how the room got onto one of those worksets but I just selected the room and changed it to the right workset and it showed up in the plan view. Try to turn on all worksets if you have a central model and see if that fixes the problem.

[StratCat]

I agree with the possibility that the room was inadvertently placed on a hidden workset.... I had a user do this last week.. took a few minutes to find

[sfong]

I have a rouge room. The project is a 6 story open office building with two vertical circulation cores and a utility/ restroom core. the rest of the floor plate is open office. All rooms show in their appropriate plans if I turn on interior fill in VG, except the 6th floor open office room and tag. (all the other rooms on this floor are visible). I have deleted the room from the schedule and replaced it, still not visible in plan. I have checked worksets, phasing, design options, hidden elements, plan regions, etc. I have cut a section through the space and, behold, the room is visible in section. It schedules just fine, but i would like to know why I can't seem to find it in plan.

Any thoughts?

WC

I know this is an old thread, but I just had this happen to a user in 2015. Checked everything that was legit, and the room would not show up. I finally found that there was a "rogue" room separation line in the middle of the room. It didn't intersect anything, but when it was deleted, the room reappeared in plan.

[DaveP]

We have Coordination Views set up in our template that we call Room Separation Views.
Pretty much the only things visible are Walls, Columns, Doors and Windows. And Rooms.
Rooms have the Room Color Fill (the blue one) and Room Reference turned on
Room Separation Lines are a big fat pink.

Make it really easy to find those Not Enclosed and Duplicate Rooms, and also clean up the extraneous Room Separation lines.

[rbcameron1]

As a suggestion, sometimes what I do is grab everything in the screen after making sure its all turned on in VG settings. Filter out what I think the problem is, like room separation lines. Hit delete, check it again to see if it appears. If it does, I know that was it and I hit under and fine tune my selection box.

If it doesn't then:
Design Options
Worksets
Cut plane and the height of the room
Plan regions
Ask someone else if they deleted it or did something to it.

[Raftman]

Had same problem and after searching all options and view I found out we had some tricky Phases and Phase Filters newly added to the model. I had to copy paste rooms from one phase to another in order to have all of them showing at once on a plan.

[dan.217661]

we've also had problems where a partition's base offset was set to 2" or so above the level (for a slab topping, etc.) but the room was modeled at the base slab level, not the level of the topping slab. THis caused the rooms to not be bound and also caused problems when our consultants tried to place spaces matching our rooms.

[cantcacheme]

Thanks everyone for revisiting this topic and for all the suggestions. I unfortunately haven't been able to find a solution to my problem, even though I tried all the ideas suggested thus far in this thread. I'm haven't been using Revit very long, so it is quite possible that I've missed something along the way. Are there any other ideas that people may have? I have attached the file that I'm working in and I'm looking currently in the basement. The room should be numbered 007. The room has already been placed and tagged, but I can't see it. Any ideas or suggestions would be marvelous. Thanks in advance!

[DaveP]

Looks like Revit is getting confused about the spot where the 2 foot wall and the 3 foot wall join at the "top" of Room 007.
I added a short Room Separation Line at the "butt" end of the thicker wall and that made the room show up.
Tried a bunch of other things, but nothing else worked.
You'll get a Warning about the line and the wall overlapping, but you'll just have to ignore that.

[cantcacheme]

I just started working on this model again today, so that was great timing. Thanks for your help!

[k-braithwaite723808]

This is an old thread, but since it didn't provide a resolution, I thought I'd add to it. We had a 'rogue' room that wouldn't be seen in only ONE view - after checking all the usual suspects: hidden by element, workset assignment, filters - and verifying that it was correctly adjusted in section, we tracked it down to a PLAN REGION that had been placed in that view, slightly overlapping into the room element. That overlap was enough to trigger the entire room as 'out of view range'. Adjusting the plan region brought visibility back.

I HAD THIS PROBLEM WITH ROOMS VISIBLE IN SECTION BUT NOT IN PLANS.

I CHECKED....


WORKSETS
PHASE
ROOMS TICKED IN VIEW TEMPLATE (VT)
VIEW RANGE
HIDDEN IN VIEW (LIGHT BULB)
OVERRIDES
PLAN REGIONS
FILTERS
MAKE NEW PLAN (NO VT) AND CHECK IF IT'S VISIBLE THERE
OBSCURED BY ANOTHER ELEMENT (EG. MASS OR FLOOR)
DESIGN OPTIONS



AND YOU'LL NEVER GUESS WHAT IT WAS....
TWO ROOM SEPERATION LINES WERE IN THE SAME PLACE ON TOP OF EACH OTHER. I DELETED ONE, AS I WAS TIDYING THE MODEL AND THE ROOM APPEARED IN THE PLAN. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS WORKS, BUT IT DID.

I HOPE THIS HELPS! I WAS READY TO THROW MY COMPUTER OUT THE WINDOW, AS SUGGESTED ABOVE.

[turner756103]

This thread is an oldie but a goodie.

Someone in our office recently had a similar problem. Their project had a room which showed up in section, was correctly dimension'd and extended vertically; no workset or design option issues; not obscured by floating model elements; not hidden in any intentional way; no graphic overrides; no rogue filters; no rogue plan regions. Everything was correct but the room just would not show up in plan. The room tag tool would correctly recognize the room when hovered over, but trying to place the tag would give a 'None of the created elements are visible in view' error. Other adjacent rooms which were identical in every way that mattered did display correctly. Everyone was stumped.

What eventually got it to show up was using room separation lines to draw a box around the room in plan, placed a couple of feet inside of the walls which enclosed the room. For whatever reason, that got it to appear (along with the six or seven room tags which had been hopelessly placed on the previously invisible room).

Some further poking and prodding showed that I could delete three of the four new room separation lines without causing the room to disappear again. Deleting the fourth DID cause the room to disappear. I aligned this remaining line to the face of the enclosing wall and left it at that.

Worth noting that the adjacent wall was/ is set to be room bounding, so that wasn't the issue. Also - very odd - making any edits to the room separation lines which effect this room caused a 'Room computations only succeeded without considering the following elements' error which highlights a column on the other side of the model, a column far from the room in question. Total mystery, that one. So, problem solved, if not entirely grasped.

[henrik744540]

Had the same problem, many rooms would not display.

Found the "Limit offset" by mistake was 32000mm instead of 3200mm and the room will not display correct if it collides with one or more rooms on other floor levels.

The sollution was to set up a schedule with room data incl. "Limit offset" and simply go through all of them to correct the height.

Hope this information can help some of you out there :-)

Henrik

[mmcintosh]

I'm relatively new to Revit, and had a similar problem today, but with visibility of a room in a section view.

The problem was that unlike the other rooms that were visible in the section, the offending room was not bounded by walls. It was visible and could be tagged in plan, and I had set the limit and base offsets correctly in properties, but it was not visible in section.

It seems like the solution is to not use floating "unbounded" rooms, in order to see the room in section. (my excuse for using an unbounded room: this particular "room" is an industrial tank linked from another model, and I wanted control over naming of the "room" for my tag. In an ideal world rooms would be coordinated across disciplines, but no time on this project.)

[kennyfox914789]

I know this thread is a few years old, but I also had this issue using Revit 2020, I tried all the ideas mentioned with no luck. What did resolve it was the skirting boards we had put into the room (as a wall with a sweep) were room bounding, once that was switched off the room appeared in plan..


I HAD THIS PROBLEM WITH ROOMS VISIBLE IN SECTION BUT NOT IN PLANS.

I CHECKED....

WORKSETS
PHASE
ROOMS TICKED IN VIEW TEMPLATE (VT)
VIEW RANGE
HIDDEN IN VIEW (LIGHT BULB)
OVERRIDES
PLAN REGIONS
FILTERS
MAKE NEW PLAN (NO VT) AND CHECK IF IT'S VISIBLE THERE
OBSCURED BY ANOTHER ELEMENT (EG. MASS OR FLOOR)
DESIGN OPTIONS



AND YOU'LL NEVER GUESS WHAT IT WAS....
TWO ROOM SEPERATION LINES WERE IN THE SAME PLACE ON TOP OF EACH OTHER. I DELETED ONE, AS I WAS TIDYING THE MODEL AND THE ROOM APPEARED IN THE PLAN. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS WORKS, BUT IT DID.

I HOPE THIS HELPS! I WAS READY TO THROW MY COMPUTER OUT THE WINDOW, AS SUGGESTED ABOVE.

[schuss]

This issue just happened with me now as well.

It was a simple issue (although took me a long time to work it out). The floor slab, in the area where the room colour was not showing, had been over ridden with a solid fill that was white!
So, I selected the element (floor slab) Right click, Override Graphics in View / Element. Make sure surface patter and colour is "By Material".