Wall Framing in Section

[Mike.68517]

To speed up the detailing required for section drawings, a wall sweep can be created within the wall that represents a double top plate & sole plate.

[aaronrumple]

However if you use split regions in the wall section you can more quickly make a new wall type with new thickness without redefining the wall sweep profile..... ;-)

[gbrowne]

The Rumpler does it again. Brilliant!

[Mike.68517]

Awesome call!!!

But I don't get how the framing is represented as an "X" properly that way... or were you just figuring on detailing that later?

[Mr Spot]

You could set the cut material to be a diagonal cross hatch. Still might require some amending in section to align correctly though

[Joef]

I think that since I don't have that many different thicknesses of framed walls (it's either 2x6 or 2x4) Mike's solution works for me. Thanks to both for these great tips!

[iannelson]

I have followed this tip and has worked a treat.
Later I thought - could I expand on this and generate additional split regions to indicate the dwangs (nogs) between the top and bottom plate. I tried, and this is the error message I get.

Error - cannot be ignored
Wall is shorter than minimum height allowed by its type.
It is and must be at least .

Can anyone help please?

[luigi]

I have followed this tip and has worked a treat.
Later I thought - could I expand on this and generate additional split regions to indicate the dwangs (nogs) between the top and bottom plate. I tried, and this is the error message I get.

Error - cannot be ignored
Wall is shorter than minimum height allowed by its type.
It is and must be at least .

Can anyone help please?
Using split regions in the wall system editor is great, but there is no way to constrain those splits...so, if you place the split at 16' (by default the wall is shown as a 20' wall) but the wall in your project is 14', then you will get that error. The split happens to be higher than the wall's height!

Basically, the split region works only in exact dimensions from the base, not by top reference, but by the base only (the base would be the absolute base elevation...i.e.-if wall's base is 1' below 1st floor, then the reference of the split is based on -1' off of 1st floor)....so you would need to have different wall types for different heights...which defeats the purpose a little, using this feature....but maybe for some that is a manageble option.....the sweep can be controlled by "top of wall" so that works better giving more options, but as Aaron mentioned, it is a bit slower than the split region....

HOpe this is the reason of your problem, and you can fix it asap...

Take care,

Luigi

[iannelson]

Thanks for replying Luigi.

I checked out the relevant wall heights as you suggested and the example I was working on had a split within both the default height and the actual height in the project???

However your comments got me thinking so more and I made a couple of splits but this time I dimensioned them from the top of the wall (instead of the bottom) and it worked with no errors! Then to test your theory I tried to adjust the height of the wall but I was unable to make the wall lower than the splits I just added. Never mind you can't win them all.

I'll give the wall sweeps option a go next.

[sbrown]

You can also add detail components to profile families, so you could add the 2x's to your sweep profile, then wherever its cut you'll see the component.

[iannelson]

Thanks Scott, I'll look into that as well.

I did try the wall sweeps, they work well but, I discovered that you would need different sweep profiles to suit different wall heights as the display of the sweep is not limited by the height of the wall - refer attached.

... or have I missed something?

[luigi]

What you are trying to achieve, yes you are right, you would need one wall type for various heights....but you can control the base and the top, so you would have to figure out how it is going to work in the "between"....you can have the sweeps/reveals from bottom towards the top, but not higher than your shortest wall, and you can have the top and work your way down....find a happy medium

L8R



Thanks Scott, I'll look into that as well.

I did try the wall sweeps, they work well but, I discovered that you would need different sweep profiles to suit different wall heights as the display of the sweep is not limited by the height of the wall - refer attached.

... or have I missed something?