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sissela
2010-10-12, 05:19 PM
I have been looking for the handrafted architectural looking font and found Stylus BT in Revit. This font is nice but prints very light. Does anyone have an idea for a similar font.

cdatechguy
2010-10-12, 05:25 PM
Most companies use a custom font....but a lot use MrHand...which you can purchase where fonts are sold.

Munkholm
2010-10-12, 05:31 PM
"Segoe Print" looks pretty similar, but is more heavy...

What are others using ?

cliff collins
2010-10-12, 06:05 PM
You might try these:

cheers

patricks
2010-10-12, 06:19 PM
We have been using Architext for many years. Looks great.

Andy.88917
2010-10-12, 07:06 PM
For truetype fonts I agree with cdatechguy, Mr. Hand is a great one....

http://www.will-harris.com/store-h/architect_fonts.htm

cliff collins
2010-10-12, 07:15 PM
Here's an image of one of the "chiseled looking hand drawn" True Type fonts I posted earlier.

Reminds me of the hand-drawing days.......then the Cad days of "we need to make our fonts look like THIS"..........LOL

We just ended up using Arial in Revit. Drawings look great, buildings get built fine.....
Contractors love them.......

cheers

iru69
2010-10-12, 10:59 PM
I largely agree, it kind of seems ridiculous that we're trying to imitate the lettering style that only existed because they didn't have computers.

However, I think a practical argument for the hand-lettered font is that it stands out a bit more from the (typically) straight building lines... you could argue it makes the overall drawing more readable (though not the actual text itself ;-) ).

Reminds me of the hand-drawing days.......then the Cad days of "we need to make our fonts look like THIS"..........LOL

We just ended up using Arial in Revit. Drawings look great, buildings get built fine.....
Contractors love them.......

cheers

Dave Jones
2010-10-13, 12:18 AM
I largely agree, it kind of seems ridiculous that we're trying to imitate the lettering style that only existed because they didn't have computers.

However, I think a practical argument for the hand-lettered font is that it stands out a bit more from the (typically) straight building lines... you could argue it makes the overall drawing more readable (though not the actual text itself ;-) ).

I used a .shx font called Archstyl in that other program for years then some years ago I switched to the SansSerif.ttf just having gotten tired of the hand lettered look. I got comments from almost all of my customers about how much more "readable" my drawings were with the new font. So, I've never thought of going back. Now I'm in the process of switching all of my CAD details used for drafting view links to Arial because Revit Does Not Like SansSerif.ttf!

twiceroadsfool
2010-10-13, 12:26 AM
Arial Narrow.ttf. So many hours and so much time wasted messing around with those goofy fonts over the years. My last 2 offices have decided on Arial or Arial Narrow (simply to save space), and ive been so happy and spent much less time fussing with it.

Heck, even the office that was partial Revit and partial ACA, we switched all of the ACA content and standards to Arial.ttf. Even THEY looked better than the "old hat" .shx fonts.

Dave Jones
2010-10-13, 12:35 AM
Arial Narrow.ttf. So many hours and so much time wasted messing around with those goofy fonts over the years. My last 2 offices have decided on Arial or Arial Narrow (simply to save space), and ive been so happy and spent much less time fussing with it.

Heck, even the office that was partial Revit and partial ACA, we switched all of the ACA content and standards to Arial.ttf. Even THEY looked better than the "old hat" .shx fonts.


thanks so much for no "slap" for my linked drafting views comment. I know how much you love them. The project I'm finishing now has 367 of them. I had 10 weeks to do the work. If I would have had to create the content in Revit it would have taken me 6 months. All that $ in so short a time :p

twiceroadsfool
2010-10-13, 02:31 AM
thanks so much for no "slap" for my linked drafting views comment. I know how much you love them. The project I'm finishing now has 367 of them. I had 10 weeks to do the work. If I would have had to create the content in Revit it would have taken me 6 months. All that $ in so short a time :p

< shrug > To each their own. I know i would never do it, but i also know i can do everything in my scope of work without crossing the 1/32" drawing object theshold limit.

Lately im working with a lot of our construction side of the office, discussion methods of detailing for prefabrication and construction. There are WAYS to do what they want in Revit, but its not the tool for that job. In some cases we consider it, for ease of earlier integration with the design team, but thats not what its forte is, and there are better tools out there.

Link em to heck, as long as theyre not in my files, lol.

barrie.sharp
2010-10-13, 08:56 AM
I have set all of my fonts to Calibri which is designed to work well with Cleartype rendering. Perfect for reviewing DWF on the screen. It also matches our office standard for letters and documents other than drawings.

I am a firm believer of keeping it honest and I'm not ashamed that my drawings were produced on a PC using Revit (not knocking arch fonts). Some of the older guys want it all to look hand drawn because "Electronic drawings aren't as good as traditional drawings" . Infact, at my old company (this still sends chalkboard shivers down my spine) the library had random overlaps and purposely didn't join lines in the corners in an attempt to make it look hand drawn. Editing was a nightmare!

twiceroadsfool
2010-10-13, 12:54 PM
I have set all of my fonts to Calibri which is designed to work well with Cleartype rendering. Perfect for reviewing DWF on the screen. It also matches our office standard for letters and documents other than drawings.

I am a firm believer of keeping it honest and I'm not ashamed that my drawings were produced on a PC using Revit (not knocking arch fonts). Some of the older guys want it all to look hand drawn because "Electronic drawings aren't as good as traditional drawings" . Infact, at my old company (this still sends chalkboard shivers down my spine) the library had random overlaps and purposely didn't join lines in the corners in an attempt to make it look hand drawn. Editing was a nightmare!

Oh man... I worked with a guy who did that "intentionally not touching" line garbage. Drove me off the wall when i had to make changes to that. In CAD no less.

Calibri is my favorite, for the exact reason you mentioned. We use Arial and AN at work, but everything else i do is Calibri. :)

barrie.sharp
2010-10-13, 01:06 PM
Oh man... I worked with a guy who did that "intentionally not touching" line garbage. Drove me off the wall when i had to make changes to that. In CAD no less.

Calibri is my favorite, for the exact reason you mentioned. We use Arial and AN at work, but everything else i do is Calibri. :)
Sneak it in chap ;). Glad i'm not the only one that suffered rubbish libraries.

I will always champion progress, well i'm here aren't I!

twiceroadsfool
2010-10-13, 01:46 PM
Ehh. I like Calibri visually, but Arial and Arial Narrow still seem a better bet for Work stuff, imho. Calibri (unless im mistaken) didnt ship with the older older versions of Windows, and some systems may not have it. I mena, hopefully im not sending models to someone on a system that old... But its much harder to find a system that doesnt have the Arial varients, lol.

barrie.sharp
2010-10-13, 02:03 PM
Ehh. I like Calibri visually, but Arial and Arial Narrow still seem a better bet for Work stuff, imho. Calibri (unless im mistaken) didnt ship with the older older versions of Windows, and some systems may not have it. I mena, hopefully im not sending models to someone on a system that old... But its much harder to find a system that doesnt have the Arial varients, lol.
I think it does come with windows updates, perhaps ie7 or 8 so they would have to be using an old and non updated system. That being said, there is a machine here that has that exact problem but I don't care, it should be replaced! It's almost as bad as saving to old formats to be compatible with other offices. Keep up people ;) One of Revit's biggest saving graces is that they take the same attitude, keep up to date or get lost! Lets use the latest and best rather than hang around for the weakest memebers of the pack (I hope you sense this is a little tongue in cheek) and keep progress top of the list.

But Calibri will certainly be more reliable than purchased or even free downloaded fonts unless you issue the fonts with projects. So bottom line, Arial or Calibri.:)

Dave Jones
2010-10-13, 02:24 PM
Link em to heck, as long as theyre not in my files, lol.

well, I look forward to my first project with your firm. You won't know until it's to late as I'm a lowly sub sub sub contractor :p

twiceroadsfool
2010-10-13, 03:18 PM
As a sub sub contractor, your model will make it in to our Navisworks files, but never in to our Revit files, hehehehe.

Dave Jones
2010-10-13, 03:20 PM
As a sub sub contractor, your model will make it in to our Navisworks files, but never in to our Revit files, hehehehe.

damn! foiled again...

cliff collins
2010-10-13, 03:25 PM
But what if his Revit curtainwall files are better than us "Archies" ' curtainwalls?

I'd put 'em in! Better sign that disclaimer form, though...........

Welcome to BIM/IPD land.

cheers

**edit** this thread has gotten WAY off subject--Fonts!

twiceroadsfool
2010-10-13, 03:31 PM
Its not a 'better' or 'worse' thing, its a use thing. It would go in to our Construction Model. Do we have SOME Construction Models in Revit? Absolutely. But then im not as concerned about his Drafting Views, since theyre not in my Architectural Models. The construction models may be BUILT in Revit, but theyre getting used elsewhere. :)

Dave Jones
2010-10-13, 03:35 PM
But what if his Revit curtainwall files are better than us "Archies" ' curtainwalls?

I'd put 'em in! Better sign that disclaimer form, though...........

Welcome to BIM/IPD land.

cheers

**edit** this thread has gotten WAY off subject--Fonts!

"what if"....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! 41 years of detailing curtain walls puts me ahead of most of the Archies in here or anywhere for that matter

OK, I'm done now (slinking off to the Families forum)

patricks
2010-10-13, 03:56 PM
For truetype fonts I agree with cdatechguy, Mr. Hand is a great one....

http://www.will-harris.com/store-h/architect_fonts.htm

Architext looks pretty much identical to Mr. Hand, and it's free.

Architext can be a bit wide at times, which is why I jumped for joy when Revit added a width parameter to dimension type properties. Now all of our dimension types are set to Architext with a 0.8 (80% of normal) width modifier.

cliff collins
2010-10-13, 04:04 PM
Now the thread is back on subject!

cheers

barrie.sharp
2010-10-13, 04:13 PM
Now the thread is back on subject!

cheers
My material editor still crashes after SP2!