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Bryan Thatcher
2010-11-18, 07:08 PM
Follow me here. I had an overall view that I broke up into 6 views. A,B,C,D,E & F. I renamed and rearranged some of the sheets as follows. E to B, B to C, F to E & C to F (A & D were fine where they were). So far so good. I created the second floor and Applied Dependant Views and the new views were in the original order. It didn't recognize the new names. Not the end of the world, I fixed them, but I have 5 more floors. I'll have to do that to each floor. I can't find a property on them that retained the original information. What happened and how can I fix it. Thanks.

Bryan Thatcher
2010-11-19, 01:19 PM
Turns out it retains the order they were created in.

KGC
2010-11-19, 04:33 PM
Just making sure I'm reading this correctly. You have 5 or 6 floors where the overall plan is large enough to need 'Area" plans to show the information at a higher scale. You created several dependant views from the main overall plan and proceeded to rename them.

And like you said it created the name based in the order they were created. You cool with that, or was their another question in there?

twiceroadsfool
2010-11-19, 05:48 PM
Just making sure I'm reading this correctly. You have 5 or 6 floors where the overall plan is large enough to need 'Area" plans to show the information at a higher scale. You created several dependant views from the main overall plan and proceeded to rename them.

And like you said it created the name based in the order they were created. You cool with that, or was their another question in there?

When you do "Apply dependant views" to the OTHER five floors, it automatically creates the same area plans.

But yes, Bryan, it wont rename them correctly. Even more lame, is it will give them the crop region of a scope box, if you have the originals tied to a series of scope boxes. But it wont tie the new ones to the scope boxes, which is a shame.

I teach people a process of: Set up dependants, tie to scope boxes, Apply dependants, tie all new ones to scope boxes, THEN rename them all. Since all of the "Dependant 2's" will be named the same stupid thing, haha.

Bryan Thatcher
2010-11-19, 06:49 PM
I don't mind renaming them. But it's crucial they are in the right order so I can quickly do it without a lot of thought. And it seems to have retained the crop/annotation crop regions. Also very important, otherwise whats the point. But I don't follow you regarding the scope boxes. I don't have any in these plans.

twiceroadsfool
2010-11-19, 07:21 PM
I don't mind renaming them. But it's crucial they are in the right order so I can quickly do it without a lot of thought. And it seems to have retained the crop/annotation crop regions. Also very important, otherwise whats the point. But I don't follow you regarding the scope boxes. I don't have any in these plans.

We tie our "Area Plans" to scope boxes, in the view properties. That means we edit ONE scope boxes, and it edits the crop regions for all 5 floors "Area A" plans. Its great. But if you set the dependant view on Level 1 to a scope box, the apply dependant view will give it the same crop region, but wont tie it to the scope box. Not a big deal, select all the Area A's from the PB and put them on the scope box in the PP. But its a hassle when theres twenty floors of plans, RCP's, Finish Plans, etc.

dhassan234482
2010-11-23, 01:48 PM
On a slightly different note, I was trying to set scope boxes to encompass 1 floor at a time to make for easier selection when I export to Navisworks. I set up one view with a scope box that spanned level 1 and now applied that view template to the new view: Level 2. I lost my scope box! I've tried turning it on and off again and can't find it at all. Is this related to what you were saying about dependent views and scope boxes?