Can't have the same view on two layouts!?

[m.knutsson714642]

Is it so? Revit says so... (I'm going through beginners book).
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[Carlos GT]

If you want to have the same view twice ,which is very rare by the way, you could duplicate the view (give it another name) and place both in your sheet.

[rosskirby]

For views that need to go on multiple sheets, use a Legend. Legends, however, have their own "issues" (i.e. no live callouts, etc.). You can't put a live view on mulitple sheets, because there's no need to. If it's no a different sheet, it's a different drawing, and therefore a different view. Views aren't like CAD xrefs, where you need the same background on multiple sheets, with nothing different except which layers are on and off. Once you start actually working in Revit, it will make more sense.

[DaveP]

What is it that you're trying to accomplish by having the "Same View" on two different Sheets?
Do you want to split a Floor Plan that doesn't fit on a Sheet into two pieces?
Do you want a Floor Plan and a Furniture Plan?
Do you want a Floor Plan and an Enlarged Plan?

All these things are what you might use the "Same View" for in AutoCAD. But, as Ross Says, Revit has a different way of handling these Views. In AutoCAD, you might use the same XRef several times, and turn different Layers on and off. Or you might XClip it.
The reason you need to jump through these hoops is that you HAVE TO use the same View multiple times. Because if you made a new View (i.e. DWG), it has nothing to do with the original. You'd need to make changes to both.
You don't needs to do that in Revit, because everything is referencing the same model.
You can create 2 or 3, or a dozen different Views, and everything is coordinated. A change to any one affects them all.

[Ning Zhou]

dependent views perhaps

[j.smart496487]

same view twice ,which is very rare by the way.

What about key plans? We use them all the time; to indicate where sections are cut, where part plans are located within the overall plan, etc. This has been discussed in other posts (see below link), but to me these are absurdly complicated work-around solutions for a problem that Revit has created by having a one-to-one relationship between views and sheets. The work-arounds are also less of a BIM ethos than just using a viewport on a sheet looking at an xref in Autocad, because they will not automatically update with layout changes. This is surely an unacceptable backward step.

Am I missing something?

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[gbrowne]

I don't think you are missing anything. The connectivity within Revit is for the 'live' construction drawings. They seem to regard key plans as 'dead' graphic which have to be drawn manually as a legend. To give them the benefit of the doubt, once general sections are set up, they don't really move that much, but that's not really good enough. It does seem a backward practice...

[jsnyder.68308]

One of the cardinal rules of producing construction documents is that one should show information one time only and put it in the place it is most likely to be found (its corollary is that information placed once only needs to be revised once). I find that Revit does a wonderful job of reinforcing this axiom.
Besides, if you could put the same view on more than one sheet, then you are back to managing your view references manually.

[gbrowne]

I wholeheartedly agree. Key plans however are different. We are all about providing complicated information graphically to others. Tools such as key plans are essential to clarify and provide this information. I think there should be a better way of creating key plans. A nice clear live key plan on the corner of every sheet would be great.

[CADastrophe]

FWIW, I always create the Key Plan as a Generic Annotation Family (visibility controls for shaded areas), place that Family in the Title Block Family, and then link the nested Yes/No controls to corresponding parameters in the host Family. I also include an overall "Key Plan Off" parameter to turn it off entirely. This allows the Key Plan to be configured sheet-by-sheet and it can be easily modified in the original Family file and it will be globally updated.

Also, I think doing it this way would help keep a consistent appearance among the other Revit trades because you can just send them the Key Plan Family. (This is my assumption, being from an MEP firm).