Revit Trees

[pgalderson]

Does anyone know of a good Revit tree family. I dont need to render my views, but the trees need to look good on planning application drawings where the appear in hidden line views, particularly elevations and sections. The standard Revit ones look bad in these views because they appear with a line down the middle caused by the intersection of the two flat planes that make up the tree. Is there a better more natural looking tree that anyone has used that doesnt look like its made of cardboard. Sketchup has a tree that orientates itself to face the view direction, I wonder why there isn't anything like this in Revit. :roll:

[greg.mcdowell]

There is not a face-me option for families in Revit. Maybe someday... but I doubt it.

[damon.sidel]

We create detail components for trees in elevation and section. We import the same tree elevations from Autocad that the office has always used.

For 3D views, we use the standard Revit RPC tree library and set the Object Style of plantings to transparent so they are all just outlines.

For other vegetation, for instance we show a lot of green walls with ivy or bougainvillea, we create a planting family with just line work imported from Autocad. That way we can place it on a wall and it shows in 3D and 2D views. It's still just flat line work, though.

[patricks]

There ya go. People have tried to get that tree view to show in the trees that render, but it doesn't seem possible, or at least not able to have it scale automatically with tree height.

http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?p=707507#post707507

[pgalderson]

Thanks for those replies.
I had a feeling it might be a compromise. Some of the guys in our office have used 2d detail groups on other projects and the results look ok, it just means having to deal with each view separately which can be time consuming if there are a lot of trees and kind of defeats the object of a parametric model ? I think this is what i will end up doing though. Come on Autodesk, lets have some better trees.

[wellborn449607]

Thanks for those replies.
I had a feeling it might be a compromise. Some of the guys in our office have used 2d detail groups on other projects and the results look ok, it just means having to deal with each view separately which can be time consuming if there are a lot of trees and kind of defeats the object of a parametric model ? I think this is what i will end up doing though. Come on Autodesk, lets have some better trees.

You can set the 2D Drawings as Symbol Lines. If you take one of the Default Trees from Revit you can simply replace the Nested family with the Desired Vector and set as Symbol lines. Symbol lines are useful for a variety of purposes besides this. I often do this when I know the 3D Model will not be used.

I recommend that most people moving off of CAD learn how to use Symbol lines. Family creation tends to give new people the most trouble. Using Symbol lines makes it easier for a new Revit user to utilize their previous AutoCad Library.

[pgalderson]

You can set the 2D Drawings as Symbol Lines. If you take one of the Default Trees from Revit you can simply replace the Nested family with the Desired Vector and set as Symbol lines. Symbol lines are useful for a variety of purposes besides this. I often do this when I know the 3D Model will not be used.

I recommend that most people moving off of CAD learn how to use Symbol lines. Family creation tends to give new people the most trouble. Using Symbol lines makes it easier for a new Revit user to utilize their previous AutoCad Library.
Thats useful information, I will experiment with this. :)

[fx2233481]

The trees included in revit are mostly for 3d renderings. They don't look that good in elevations and hidden line 3d views. One can make planting families, with accurate shape of trees or download some ready made trees - I think there are plenty of sites out there. Have a look for instance on a blog called revit tree (http://www.revittree.com) , they have some information.

[sbrown]

If you create a planting family with a cad insert for plan, cad insert for each elevation(you can set them to be off in the opposite view), then nest that into another Planting family, it will scale with the plant height value automatically. The plant family is the only one I know of that actually scales. I haven't used this technique in years but it worked great since revit 2.5 I'll have to dig up my old tree families.

[sbrown]

Once you link the plant family into your RPC Plant family, you can select the rpc graphic and uncheck its visibility. You get the nice CAD symbol graphic and still the Rendered RPC content. It would take a little time, but you could easily create an awesome library of plants this way.

[patricks]

Yeah but don't you have to have the CAD version of the graphic first? I never could figure out how to get the CAD graphic out of that "Nice Tree" Revit family that I posted a link to above. If you have any helpful tips that would be great.

*edit* n/m I forgot that was yours to begin with Scott, and I also didn't see some of the comments after mine in the other thread.

[sbrown]

Yes, but those tree symbols I use are free cad blocks, there are 100s of them out there.

[SCShell]

Hey there,
Maybe you should check out my class at AU last year. I think that you can still access all of the virtual classes. I use a "unique" solution.
Steven

[damon.sidel]

Steven, can you be more specific? A course name or better yet, the URL to the class?

[SCShell]

Steven, can you be more specific? A course name or better yet, the URL to the class?
The course was called AB4267 - Tips and Tricks for Autodesk Revit Graphic & Visualation Techniques
The URL I have is gone.... You need to go to AU2011 web site and look for the class number.
It is still available I hear.
Good luck

[dkoch]

If you have access to the 2011 class materials, this URL should work:
http://au.autodesk.com/?nd=class&session_id=9188

[luis228642]

A small trick to the trees from www.archigrafix.com . I have noticed that when using planting families sometimes there are some problems with the default revit transparency setting. For instance in perspectives and elevations objects behind trees can show in front of the trees. The way to fix it is to override the object transparency to 1. By default is set to 0.

[trees3d341534]

www.3dentourage.com

[tomkemp1111205328]

I think you are looking something like this:

http://pinterest.com/luispolaris/revit-trees/

These trees are also parametric.


Does anyone know of a good Revit tree family. I dont need to render my views, but the trees need to look good on planning application drawings where the appear in hidden line views, particularly elevations and sections. The standard Revit ones look bad in these views because they appear with a line down the middle caused by the intersection of the two flat planes that make up the tree. Is there a better more natural looking tree that anyone has used that doesnt look like its made of cardboard. Sketchup has a tree that orientates itself to face the view direction, I wonder why there isn't anything like this in Revit. :roll:

[MikeJarosz]

we show a lot of green walls with ivy or bougainvillea

Bougainvillea in Massachusetts? :confused:

[damon.sidel]

The office is in MA, the projects aren't. :)

[PicoAlexArch]

Hi.

One thing is for sure, these trees are much better than the ones supplied with revit 2013. I had a look on this page archigrafix - revit trees (http://www.archigrafix.com/revit-trees.html) and the graphics are pretty good. The trees have no leaves -they are like winter trees. I like them. :) I'll try to download some trees tonight and will give some feedback soon.



I think you are looking something like this:

http://pinterest.com/luispolaris/revit-trees/

These trees are also parametric.

[Stoltenberg_Ark]

They have a very large collection of trees: here (http://www.archigrafix.com/revit-trees/shop.html). Our BIM manager bought their extra large start pack yesterday (more than 300 trees)! :)

[BIM Cat]

I were also struggling to find nice Revit trees which can be scaled by instance parameters.

Can't afford to buy trees from your link, but I came across this technique which I used to make my own perfect tree!

http://revitboost.com/revit-tutorials/create-scalable-revit-trees-with-custom-plan-and-elevation-symbols/

[luongvu]

hi every one. im luong. i made a convolve tree. i hope all of you like it.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1t6U2twK3lRhG8_i3bvmHkotL0O-BdC8h
im good at revit- chat with me if you need a revit partner.

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