Newbee - Turning walls on and off

[formarch.70565]

My project consist of a building with site walls that I want to shut off on the framing plan. Whats the best way to separate elements so they can be turned on or off in different views. In Cad I would put the site walls on a separate layer but in this case I'm not sure what to do because I created the elements as walls and when walls are turned off of course everything shuts off. I would also like to shut these elements off in elevation views because they currently block portions of the building elevations.

Thanks for your help

[rhys]

You will need to get to grips with worksets. Not too difficult but checkout the tutorials first. You can then set internal walls on one workset and external walls say on another.

[papurajx]

I have been raising this issue for quite sometime in the 'Wishlist', that we should have subcatagories in Wall (System family) to control the visibility of different wall types.

Enabling Worksets just to control the viibility is not a better option, especially for those who are not really good at using Worksets and for those smaller projects which do not qualify for worksets.

[gallienhanson]

I have been using the "hide /isolate" button, we do structural engineering so when I want to turn off some walls to see columns, beams etc, I use that.

[SkiSouth]

Create a Phase on the documents called site (prior to framing). Put the walls on that phase. When you change phases, you'll have the option to keep them on or not - by displaying the phase. As long as you don't "demo" the walls, then they will show on a later phase if you show "complete". You can control the elevation or plan view by using the phase option.

Using phases as a workaround can have a few " gotchas" though. Might want to play with them before you get too heavy off into a project that has "must meet" deadlines.

[Dimitri Harvalias]

I have been using the "hide /isolate" button, we do structural engineering so when I want to turn off some walls to see columns, beams etc, I use that.
This is only a display solution. The objects do not remain turned off or invisible when they are printed. You have to turn them off using the visibilty controls.

[beegee]

You can permanently make categories visible or invisible within a view, ( using the View > VH & VI commands ) but not individual elements within categories, unless you create subcategories for them, which cannot presently be done for the Wall category.

[SCShell]

Hey there,

There is another way; however, it has it's drawbacks too. Design Options. This is a very powerfull tool in Revit which a lot of folks are not explored to it's fullest maybe. I use design options to:

1. Show exactly what you are asking for, "Hiding" a wall or group of walls. I simply have a main primary option showing the overall plan and then an option plan which basically removes walls that I don't want. I use this is for things like "alternate plan layouts" or alternate demo, cabinetry etc. But, I does work really well for controlling the visibility of what you want shown or not.

2. Show Add/Deduct Alternate bid items. I usually show the main primary option as the Base Bid and use options for alternate items. I love this one!

Hope this may help too
Steve

[dalewww]

This is only a display solution. The objects do not remain turned off or invisible when they are printed.
I have noticed this when doing gabled end walls on residential projects. I set the walls to attach to the roof above. When I go to my upper level the walls are showing where my roof plan should be. Not a wanted graphic. So I tried to hide them and then printed. They showed up. Is the options being shown in this thread the only way to get around this as well?

[Scott D Davis]

Ultimately, the factory needs to simplify this. Give the users the abilty to hide individual objects in a view, and plot that way.

It's really the hide/isolate tool, with printing capabilities.

[Dimitri Harvalias]

I have noticed this when doing gabled end walls on residential projects. I set the walls to attach to the roof above. When I go to my upper level the walls are showing where my roof plan should be. Not a wanted graphic. So I tried to hide them and then printed. They showed up. Is the options being shown in this thread the only way to get around this as well?
Dale,
This is likely a view range issue. The plan will show what is actually intersecting with the cutting plane. You can alter your view range for the entire plan or create a plan region to help display what you want on the plotted sheet.
I I like the fact that Revit will represent the actual condition, it doesn't allow you to fake a drawing and not think about what things are actually doing or how they ralte to one another. The one drawback can be some 'strange' display results that we might not be used to.

[dalewww]

This is likely a view range issue. The plan will show what is actually intersecting with the cutting plane. You can alter your view range for the entire plan or create a plan region to help display what you want on the plotted sheet.

Yes, I have tried to change that. On this particular project I have windows that will not appear if I adjust the view range enough to get rid of the walls.
I will check into the plan region, but it seems it would not allow me to place the lower level roof plan that I really need to see.
Something to check into though. Thank you.

[beegee]

Dale,

May I suggest you post an illustration of what you wish to see. Plan regions and View Range settings should be able to achive the desired result.

[dalewww]

May I suggest you post an illustration of what you wish to see. Plan regions and View Range settings should be able to achive the desired result.

Here is my illustrations that I am dealing with. The first one is what I want to see. A roof plan of the roof below the main roof and the upper level floor plan. The second image is what I get if I keep the gable end walls attached to the roofs.

The walls that are attached to the roof are actually taller than the top of the second floor walls therefore I do not believe a view range will matter.

BTW, view range on the both images is set to 7'-6" top and 4'-0" cut plane. What are your thoughts.

[Scott D Davis]

Yep, Plan Region time! Create a plan region that sets the cut plane higher (roof level, maybe) and those walls will not show. The one side with two walls is easy, just draw a rectangle. The other side is gonna take a second longer to make the plan region shape follow the building.

[dalewww]

Yep, Plan Region time! Create a plan region that sets the cut plane higher (roof level, maybe) and those walls will not show. The one side with two walls is easy, just draw a rectangle. The other side is gonna take a second longer to make the plan region shape follow the building.

I will have to look at this, not that familiar with it. ....
I had to look at it. Yup, that works. The ones around the right side works too.

Thanks Scott.