Tagging a double nested family

[Duncan Lithgow]

Is it possible to tag a family which is double nested? I've got a family with some insulation nested in a family with different glass types (the enamelled glass has insulation behind it). When this is all loaded into the main Window family with four panes I can switch thing correctly but I can't tab in to or tag the insulation - the tag catches the window section instead ("Rudeblændefelt foran isolering".

Is this a limit of Revit or have I done something wrong?

(The insulation is nested because it needs to be scheduled separately for a different contractor. I've nested it in the glass rather than the to make sure we never get enamelled glas without the insulation.)

I've attached the family (RAC2012) and would love some feedback. This is my first serious try with nesting Families. I've only finished putting the glass in the two rightmost sections.

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[cliff collins]

Make sure the nested Families are set to Shared.

[Duncan Lithgow]

Make sure the nested Families are set to Shared.

That's exactly what I overlooked. My brain is melting with this nested families stuff - keeping the geometry of the nested objects working when the host family flexes really takes some planning.

Now my problem is that I can't see a way to flip the panes independently of each other. Sometimes a section / pane is right-hinged other times left-hinged. Ideas welcome...

Thanks heaps :)

[Dimitri Harvalias]

Try nesting the insulation behind both glazed panels and create the different panel types by controlling visibility (and scheduling) of the insulation with a yes/no instance parameter. If it's an either/or situation then you can toggle it so when the left panel is insulated the right one isn't and vice versa. If it has the potential to be neither or both panels the each will need to be controlled independently.

(Just had a quick look at the family and, although my Dutch is more than a little shaky, you'll need to apply the same logic to the elevation representation so you get your surface pattern toggling on and off as well.)

[Duncan Lithgow]

I'd really like to solve the hinge-side issue without creating a new type. There is no price difference... hmmm but the contractors would like that information I guess. I'll have to think about that. At the moment all the other windows are done as single families with no nesting - none of the section can be flipped - but none of the architects seem to have noticed yet.

Is there any other way?

Why can't I just add a flip to the window section family and tab in to it? (Pipe dreaming?)

PS, common mistake I made myself before I moved here: Holland -> Dutch; Denmark -> Danish (much softer sounding language)

[Dimitri Harvalias]

I stand corrected on the language issue. (the softness difference didn't come across in type ;))
No need to create new types of anything.
See the sample file attached. I added two parameters to your window family. One for left panel insulation, another for right. By toggling the visibility of the insulated window you can define different conditions.
If it's not visible it won't schedule.
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[Duncan Lithgow]

"If it's not visible it won't schedule."

I've checked and you're right about visability. Is that something that's come in the more recent versions? I'm sure I read in Mastering Revit 2010 that the a visibility toggle does not affect scheduling.

[Duncan Lithgow]

I finally got the whole thing to work, sorry it's not in english. Have a look if you feel like flexing the window family.

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