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MikeJarosz
2013-04-15, 03:28 PM
I need a refresher on Revit room numbering. My usual way to number rooms is floor-num (03-125), with vertically stacked rooms sharing the same numer eg. women's room is 01-035, 02-035, 03-035 etc. In the past, this was impossible in Revit and we had to go through the project and do it manually.
Has it gotten any better? Last time I did a room numbering job was several versions of Revit back. Sometimes they listen.........
jsteinhauer
2013-04-15, 05:05 PM
Still not much different than you remember. But, when you start the Room command, place your first room. Stop the command. Change the room number to the first in your sequence. Then continue to place new rooms. The numbers should hold to the new pattern. Otherwise you can use a thrid party add-on to pre-load the rooms (name & number) into your project. Although placing rooms from the drop down is kind of a PITA. But, if you have a list of rooms with a ton of associated data, it is better then retyping it in Revit.
Cheers,
Jeff S.
patricks
2013-04-16, 01:19 PM
Yes just restart your numbering sequence for each floor and go at it. You can also change the initial room name that is placed with each room object, instead of just "Room". This helped tremendously on a mini-storage job I did where I wanted room names to be the nominal storage unit sizes (10x15, 10x20, etc), which I then scheduled and totaled up to show how many units of each size were in the project.
So if you have several rooms with the same name, change that name in the Properties dialog before placing the room, and then all subsequent rooms will have that name.
Dimitri Harvalias
2013-04-16, 02:12 PM
Another tip that helps when initially placing rooms on multiple floors with similar layouts.
Place the first level with proper names and sequencing.
Move to the next level and copy the first room in the series to the proper location.
Change the number to reflect the new level.
Go back to the first level and and select all the remaining rooms
Copy/paste aligned the remaining rooms and they will take on the new sequence as well as the properties of the original.
Not at a Revit computer at he moment so I'm not sure how this will work with your hyphenated numbering schema Mike but it will work with sequential numbering.
I also suggest doing all your re-numbering from a schedule rather than a plan view. Just keep a tiled plan open with your schedule and your rooms will Pre-highlight in plan when selected in the sched so you can see what's what.
dhurtubise
2013-04-17, 06:51 AM
I have a tool that automatically assign a suffix. It's developed over the free one from ADSK.
I also have another one for more complex situation where the room number is a concatenation of several parameters but this one i cannot share :(
Just message me if you want it
91355
DaveP
2013-04-19, 01:47 PM
I really like the Renumber Tool from D|C|CADD
http://apps.exchange.autodesk.com/RVT/Detail/Index?id=appstore.exchange.autodesk.com%3adctoolsforautodeskrevit%3aen
Most of the other Renumber tools (like the one dhurtbuise references above) will take a range of rooms and will start at the first and increment by 1.
This can make it difficult if your room number have gaps in them or if your numbers were not originally in the same sequence as the final result.
The D|C|Tools app, though, lets you assign a starting number and then picks each room in order.
dhurtubise
2013-04-23, 09:25 AM
That's exactly what my tools does ;)
Current number is the first one that you pick
MikeJarosz
2013-04-23, 09:03 PM
I really like the Renumber Tool from D|C|CADD
http://apps.exchange.autodesk.com/RVT/Detail/Index?id=appstore.exchange.autodesk.com%3adctoolsforautodeskrevit%3aen
Most of the other Renumber tools (like the one dhurtbuise references above) will take a range of rooms and will start at the first and increment by 1.
This can make it difficult if your room number have gaps in them or if your numbers were not originally in the same sequence as the final result.
The D|C|Tools app, though, lets you assign a starting number and then picks each room in order.
One important consideration in room numbering is what to do after the project has been issued. Existing room numbers cannot be changed, because change orders, ASIs, RFIs and correspondence that refer to original rooms would be screwed up. I always leave gaps in the numbers so if I need a new number I can squeeze it in. A gap of 5 works nicely for something like a tower core and shell, which has relatively few rooms.
thillhouse
2013-04-29, 02:25 PM
This may be a little off topic, but what do you do about signage numbers? We always run into a problem when we assign a logical numbering sequence for construction purposes and then the signage package comes back and changes most of the numbers even sometimes the owner has their own numbering system? Then we are in a quandry as to what to used for the labeling of the outlets, circuits, devices, etc... some rooms (like corridors) don't even get a sign and therefore don't have a number in the new scheme...
We assign a parameter to our room objects for sign type and sign copy and then schedule that out... What do others do?
Tim
MikeJarosz
2013-04-29, 03:05 PM
In my experience the sign people are in a world of their own. They even use Macs instead of PCs. Interesting that you try to keep track of their numbering system. I have never made the attempt at that myself. That includes an airport terminal with thousands of rooms. We just let them do their thing their way.
Even better than the sign people's renumbering is the marketing renumbering. In NYC high floor numbers are desirable in marketing apartment buildings. I did a mixed use tower where the first 26 floors were office space, then above that floors 27 through 55 were condominium apartments. Because the office floor to floor was 13 feet, the owner rationalized that the 27th floor was actually the 45th floor! Suddenly, the owner could market apartment floors as 45-73. He snared a few mega$$$ sports stars with that ruse. Drove us crazy. It even affected the elevator buttons.
dhurtubise
2013-04-29, 03:35 PM
Sign that the world is changing.... in our last 2 projects we convinced the signage people to use Revit.
Don't get confused by the design part of the work they need to do :)
And i'm also using a mac ;)
patricks
2013-05-10, 06:54 PM
Schedule signage? uhhh we don't do that. :p Not yet anyway.
I have a current project under construction on a college campus. They have their own system there that they use in all buildings, so the Owner sent us an Excel file with the room names, our numbers, what they wanted for numbers on the signs, and the sign copy. This all happened during the submittal process.
jsteinhauer
2013-05-10, 08:16 PM
Schedule signage?
2014 will allow families to have a little room aware tail, that you can drag around. This will be great for signage & for MEP elements that are above a ceiling, or in a hallway, that service a room.
Looking forward to the future from behind.
Cheers,
Jeff S.
patricks
2013-05-14, 03:01 PM
Yeah I saw the new features, they seem to be pretty good, though I haven't had a chance to install 2014 yet.
jsteinhauer
2013-05-14, 05:47 PM
We're waiting until SP1 comes out. Even then, we'll upgrade on a project by project basis.
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