Is this tag possible?

[david.kingham]

I need to create a tag for a code analysis plan, basically what i need to do is group some rooms into the same category and have the areas totalled for that category and in turn put into the tag, I know I can do this in a schedule but I don't think I can do it in a tag....I'm inputing it manually right now which isn't very revit like :)

[david.kingham]

Here's what the tag looks like

[Dimitri Harvalias]

Check out "shared parameters" in the help file David. You should be able to do all of what you have listed in your tag. You can also include some calculated field parameters that might do some of the basic math for you as well.

[Scott Hopkins]

It should be possible. The use of labels within an annotation family should do the trick. Area and Occupancy are built in to the labels. For the additional information you will have to use labels with shared parameters and a few formulas in your family.

[LRaiz]

It sounds like you are doing something similar to area analysis. Did you look at area analysis tools? If you define your area plan views and make areas that represent your desired room aggregation then area tags may get you close.

[david.kingham]

Ah yes formulas duh....I'll see what I can figure out.

I would use area analysis but I allready have one setup for BOMA and I can't seem to do more than one area analysis

[jbalding48677]

You can have any number of Area Plans, go to Settings | Area Settings. Create a new. Then go to you Area Analysis design bar and click Area Plan and your new type will appear in the type pulldown.

[bowlingbrad]

You can have any number of Area Plans

Jim,
I haven't used area plans yet because our way of presenting to a client would involve a combination of area plans. We want to show the gross building area along with the tenant areas on the same plan. I spoke with the factory and they said that this cannot be accomplished. See this thread. (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=15000) You can't really have areas overlapping areas. You also cannot show the areas OVER a plan. The walls always cut the area. An area showing the gross building area should be able to have the color show all of the way to the outside edge of the exterior wall. It doesn't. The exterior wall shows as if it is cutting the area.

Also, the draw order command does not work on areas. I was told by the factory to use filled regions! How archaic! But filled regions don't work either. The solid filled region doesn't allow transparency. So we could only use patterns (not very impressive).

How do you do this?

[sbrown]

I think your best bet will be to use revit the way it was intended and see if your client is ok with one "gross area plan" and one tenant area plan. Since all the data is acurate and displayed graphically hopefully they will like it better and you can save yourself the time and headache of workarounds.

If you want to show the gross area in the tenant schedule and use it to compare percentages etc. you can do that via a shared parameter and calculated value. You have to manualy enter the gross area from your gross area schedule, but thats the only number you have to keep track of.

[luigi]

Jim,
I spoke with the factory and they said that this cannot be accomplished. See this thread. (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=15000) You can't really have areas overlapping areas.
For those of you that might be confused (of course not the regulars in this forum) I don't belong to the factory, some might get confused since I am the only one responding brad in the linked thread... :D
But I wouldn't mind having their income ;)

[bowlingbrad]

For those of you that might be confused (of course not the regulars in this forum) I don't belong to the factory, some might get confused since I am the only one responding brad in the linked thread... :D
But I wouldn't mind having their income ;)

Sorry, Luigi.

I did speak to autodesk after I posted the thread. I didn't mean anything negative. You're contribution to the thread was exactly what I needed to help me formulate my conversation with Wai.

Please accept my apologies! :-|

[aaronrumple]

While you can't show both gross and net area on the same plan, you can show schedules of the differing areas on a sheet. Create the tenet area plan and drop that on a sheet. Make a schedule of this area plan. Drop that on the sheet and include any calculations you want in the schedule. Make an area plan for the gross area of the building. This will not be displayed. Schedule the gross area(s) along with whatever calcs in the schedule you need. Put this schedule on the same sheet as the other area plan.

[luigi]

I wasn't offended Brad, don't worry, I thought it could of been a cute joke...

By the way, there is a way to see the color fill over the walls...

Make the view wireframe... and make the current plan your underlay, and turn off all the ceiling and objects you don't want to see in your plan....if then the color fill covers all the objects in your plan, change both the cut plane and bottom of your primary range (in View Range) and the view depth level to a height higher than the area calculation level setting (found under settings)

whew!!! all in one very long sentence....;)

I will clarify as needed!

[luigi]

oh, by the way, if you are worried how the gray underlay of your plan will print, don't worry too much. I found in the past that the gray underlay prints black, unless you use raster printing, instead of vector....unless you try and it doesn't work!! ;)

[bowlingbrad]

Luigi,
GREAT SUGGESTION!!! (insert smilie of hand slapping against forehead here). I'm going to try that right away.

Are you sure you don't work for TPTB? ;)

[luigi]

:| Brad, please be quite....I'm undercover!!! 8)

[sandovala]

It should be possible. The use of labels within an annotation family should do the trick. Area and Occupancy are built in to the labels. For the additional information you will have to use labels with shared parameters and a few formulas in your family.
Scott

How can you enter formulas for shared parameter or formulas with labels, I am trying to create a similar tag like the one David was trying to create but have not had sucess. I have to enter the information manually at the moment. Thanks

[luigi]

Scott

How can you enter formulas for shared parameter or formulas with labels, I am trying to create a similar tag like the one David was trying to create but have not had sucess. I have to enter the information manually at the moment. ThanksSandovala, there is no way to put a calculated total in a label...at least not until factory knows how bad we need this feature...
There is a wish item, search for it and vote...

Peace,
luigi