Only one plan callout style possible? What's up with that?

[Wes Macaulay]

We're working with a beeeeeg client on a beeeeeg project and we want to have a callout style where the callout head is nothing but a huge letter - this will point to a 1:100 scale callout view of the 1:500 overall plan.

We can do that... cool, but... you can't duplicate the callout style to make a regular one as well as the one that uses the big letter.

Am I missing something, or can we only have one callout style for plan views??

[Steve_Stafford]

Subtle new step involved. Settings | View Tags | Callout tags

You establish this "style" then you can assign it to a callout. You assign the style to the view. You can only assign one callout style to a view.

[J. Grouchy]

You also apparently can only have one Reference Callout Style. Sometimes I want to say "SIM", sometimes I want to say "O.H." (opposite hand)...but when I try to set up different ones, it always gives me the original I set up under the View Tags dialog. I used to be able to create different ones in 6.1...why the regression?

[Scott D Davis]

You have to create a new tag by duplicating the original, and then add the SIM or TYP, and name the Tag appropriately.

[Steve_Stafford]

You have to create a new tag by duplicating the original, and then add the SIM or TYP, and name the Tag appropriately.The issue is that the VIEW determines the callout used. If you create a detail that you assign a reference callout that uses SIM then anytime you reference that view you get that reference callout style. To get one that allows you to use OPP you actually have to create a new view (might as well BE opposite hand), assign that style to the view. In the past you could just switch the annotation from type to type. The irony is, if you have to create a separate view, you don't need the OPP designation eh?

[J. Grouchy]

You have to create a new tag by duplicating the original, and then add the SIM or TYP, and name the Tag appropriately.

Tried it...doesn't work.

[Scott D Davis]

Oh yeah, Steve's right! Create a duplicate View Type, called View SIM or something like that.

[Wes Macaulay]

Subtle new step involved. Settings | View Tags | Callout tags

You establish this "style" then you can assign it to a callout. You assign the style to the view. You can only assign one callout style to a view.Right - I do have two callout tag styles... but I can't duplicate the floor plan callout style to use the second tag style. Looks like you can only have one callout style for plans in a project. Bummer...

[Steve_Stafford]

Looks like you can only have one callout style for plans in a project. Bummer...You can...you have to create different view types so you can assign the different callout types to. Each view can only have ONE type assigned however. Confused yet?

[LRaiz]

I think Wes is pointing out correctly that it is not currently possible to make multiple types of plan views. However one can make many types of detail views and detail views can look straight down just like plan views. When making a callout in plan view user can click a down arrow in type drop-down, switch to a detail view and thus gain ability to make new types. Can detail views be used to achieve Wes' goals?

[Wes Macaulay]

I think Wes is pointing out correctly that it is not currently possible to make multiple types of plan views. However one can make many types of detail views and detail views can look straight down just like plan views. When making a callout in plan view user can click a down arrow in type drop-down, switch to a detail view and thus gain ability to make new types. Can detail views be used to achieve Wes' goals?Is there any technical difference between detail views and a floor plan callout? Because if not, then we're in the clear!

[LRaiz]

Some differences do exist. The obvious one - plans and detail views belong to different system families (an will be shown in different branches of the browser). Conceptually all Revit views are very similar. In general detail views can have arbitrary orientation while plans are always parallel to the ground. However if detail view is made as a callout and its tag kept visible in parent view only then it will stay horizontal. You will need to determine for yourself if detail views will work for your needs. I think the chances are good and the attempt is worth your time.

[beegee]

A detail view has a graphics property that can be set to “show in intersecting views”. If set, the detail view will appear as a section detail in sections and elevations that intersect the detail view callout extents. If set to “ parent view only” this does not happen. A Floor Plan callout does not be set to show in intersecting views.


A detail view will also list in the Project Browser as that category, whereas a floor plan will list under the Floor Plan category.


A detail view can be “ hidden at scales coarser than”, whereas a floor plan view cannot.


Is there any technical difference between detail views and a floor plan callout? Because if not, then we're in the clear!

[Wes Macaulay]

Ok - thanks everyone. I think we can create a Detail view-type callout that has nothing but a 4" high letter in the callout head. The tag for this will simply be the view number which will show the sector number of the 1:100 plan shown on the 1:500 plan.

If the team is ok with this than I owe you all one... again!

[Wes Macaulay]

Just so everyone knows: if you use a detail view as a floor plan callout, you can't put room tags in the view! That killed this idea immediately once we discovered it.

[Alex Page]

R2009 you can place room tages in the detail view - but I find the best thing about the plan callout is that you have view range/ underlays etc as per normal plans - with the detail views you dont, so you couldnt show, as an example, the ceiling line above.