stacked wall mystery

[MikeJarosz]

I have a stacked wall with brick, granite and precast materials running in horizontal bands. Most of the precast panels are 12' wide and there are several different types. The materials use tags that read the material mark. All of a sudden one band on one panel type has switched materials. I have looked at everything I can think of. The material should be exposed precast but is reading as brick BR-4

Edit type shows that the base of the panel is precast and the upper band is also precast. The preview section shows this clearly. But if you look at the elevation, the base is precast but the upper band that is precast in section becomes brick in elevation.

So I looked for a split face that might do this but didn't find one

I checked for overlaid (duplicate) panels. Only one instance.

I checked for a filled region: none

Override element can't override a compound wall, so no overrides in the view. I also checked VG and object styles. No overrides there


Compare the panel on the left side with the right side. They are the same panel type, but the one on the left shows brick, the right shows precast which is correct. This tells me that the problem is instance-based. Any ideas where else I can look?


Follow Up:

I tried to edit the materials in the stacked wall by assigning a different material to the area. Although the edit accepted the new material, it did not update the elevation in the model. So then I thought maybe I can split the material and assign the correct material to the new area and Revit crashed -- "a serious error has occured". I sent the error report to Autodesk.

Nobody on the team believes anything they did caused this one material to change into another and I believe them. That this one material morphed into another on its own, then crashed when I tried to edit it looks to me like a bug.

[MikeJarosz]

Found it!!!!!!

I have never used paint-material without creating a split face first. I then apply a material to the split face. I have discovered that you do not need a split face to paint a material. Apparently the incorrect brick was painted onto the precast without a split face and that's why I couldn't find how that brick got there. With that discovery, I painted precast over the incorrect brick and it worked! Not only that, but it stayed within the lines! Apparently, Revit is smart enough to use the stacked wall area definitions not only in edit-type, but also with paint-material too.

There should be some way of detecting that the material assigned in the edit type/modify section/assign layer has been overridden on the elevation using paint-material. This ability to secretly override materials assigned in section with painted materials in elevation could, in the wrong hands, create an editing nightmare. If a material is overridden in elevation without a split face, the section should reflect that change, not continue to show the material that has been changed.

Factory: are you listening?