Any new Roof Tools in 8?

[Archimac]

Hello,

I stopped using Revit at v 6 because of the lack of roof development.
I found it a trial and error process when you had to edit a complex
residential roof from a degenerated outline. Then donig complex soffit
returns and facia was a manual process.

Has this improved or will there be a Revit Residential / Multifamily? Im
my location even mid-rise mult-family projects have fancy roofs and such!
There is a great need for better tools to do this and there are large firm
that to multi-family residential.

Thanks

[beegee]

We can't discuss what's in 8.0 before its released, but I wouldn't be holding my breath for that particular wish , since Revit is highly capable of modelling just about any roof I can think of, particularly in a residential environment.

[Archimac]

I found it so limited and frustrating that I stopped using it. You would have to know the detail we have to use for facia and soffits. There are 'greek returns', crown moldings, barge boards ... just all sorts of classical details that would have to be available in a nice graphical family editor box for it to be integrated and smart.

I think how much easier commercial architecture is with Revit and they don't seem to be focusing on residential with the classical elements.

[Paul Monsef]

Oh no, not crown moldings! ;)

What's a "greek return"?? We don't have those on the 2nd coast.

[Archimac]

Looks like you do! So, what is the process and objects used. We use more
overhang on the lower 1st coast because of the rain and hot sun in summer.

So we have a facia with molding and a soffit underneath and trim again where
the soffit meets the face of wall ... very fancy!

Thanks

[pwmsmith]

I know what you mean. Couldn't do this either.

[Archimac]

O.K. already! Describe your process. I no longer have access to Revit.
;)

[BillyGrey]

No likee you slam-dunkee the nice proggy!!!

[Paul Monsef]

O.K. already! Describe your process. I no longer have access to Revit.
;)
The demo is free, go download it!!

In my case, i used a combination of a wall sweep (for the horz. member) and a roof fascia (for the sloping)... Very easy and painless i assure you.

Don't ask me how i did the copper curved roof thingy, that was a year ago!

[Archimac]

These look good, but the problem is I hear you say you used bits of walls etc...
What happens when you need to change a roof pitch and adjust all those elements
individually? My point is there still is not an integrated tool for all this soffit stuff.

[aaronrumple]

...and which software has that tool?

[Paul Monsef]

These look good, but the problem is I hear you say you used bits of walls etc...
What happens when you need to change a roof pitch and adjust all those elements
individually? My point is there still is not an integrated tool for all this soffit stuff.
It's not as difficult as you're making it out to be... If i change the roof pitch, I have to drop (or raise) the cornice & MAYBE adjust the ends of the rake.

How do you do it now?

[Archimac]

Unfortunately - not many. I know Chief Architect and Softplan have an integrated tool for it, but don't know how powerful it is. Archicad has several add-ons which try to do this but they are not going to be very parametric being add-ons.

I'm hoping that Revit and Graphisoft will make this available out of the box.
:-|

[pwmsmith]

The upper roof of the building I indicated was made in two parts only and if I wish to change the roof pitch its Properties> Roof Pitch, done! How hard is that?