Site modelling, Can revit do this?

[jiaoyanbing]

?i think it can not.for example,it is too regetable that it can not creat roadway.

[gravelin]

you lost...

[sbrown]

It can do this...

[Clyne Curtis]

Can Land Desktop do this?

I think not...


Clyne

[terrysouthern]

I am reminded of the old saying that "insanity is the condition of doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result at some point in the future."

Revit can't do anything, rather Revit is a tool which the user uses to perform certain functions of modeling and drafting. So, in a rhetorical sense you are correct; Revit can't do it; but neither can any other software on the planet; until Artifical Intelligence is achieved, no system ever will; semicolons are sexy.

On the other hand, an experienced user of Revit can do what you have described. I wonder your basis of comparison; are you speaking in terms of a certain time frame, ACIS solid output, referencing GPS data?



?i think it can not

[J. Grouchy]

I'm wondering what the point of the whole thread is...
Seems sort of like you were attempting to taunt rather than explore the power of the software. If that's your goal, there are other forums for that sort of discussion.

[sbrown]

I've never understood why some will look at something that does 90% of what you want perfectly and focus on the 10% that doesn't work exactly the way you want.

[J. Grouchy]

I've never understood why some will look at something that does 90% of what you want perfectly and focus on the 10% that doesn't work exactly the way you want.

It's probably more like 98% / 2% ...if you exhaust every method and workaround...

[sbrown]

Thats why I said perfectly. I can do 98% of what I want, just not perfectly.

[Kroke]

It can do this...

Wow, that project looks pretty intense!

[J. Grouchy]

Wow, that project looks pretty intense!

I miss the motorcycle guy...
:?

[Kroke]

Lol, I seriously laughed out loud after reading that... ;)

[knurrebusk]

He has a point though!

It`s not possible to do the curved/sloped roads, and make them intersect with pads/driveways from different properties on multiple heights.

This will have to be a separate site ver of Revit, like Land Desktop replacer.

[Steve_Stafford]

I suppose it would be fair to be critical of Revit for the lack of civil design tools if it claimed to serve and support that discipline's needs. It doesn't make such a claim.

[SkiSouth]

It`s not possible to do the curved/sloped roads, and make them intersect with pads/driveways from different properties on multiple heights.

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It is not possible to AUTOMATICALLY do this. It is possible to do.

[knurrebusk]

"It is not possible to AUTOMATICALLY do this. It is possible to do."

If you can explain how, I´ll be a very happy dude this weekend!
Got 3 different site developments pending, needing just that type of hard work.

I´ll download the Building 8 beta if that´s the clue.

[SkiSouth]

"It is not possible to AUTOMATICALLY do this. It is possible to do."

If you can explain how, I´ll be a very happy dude this weekend!
Got 3 different site developments pending, needing just that type of hard work.

I´ll download the Building 8 beta if that´s the clue.

No, you'll be better off generating them in the site terrain software and importing them. sounds like time is of the essence here. It still won't be pretty in revit.

[knurrebusk]

"It still won't be pretty in revit."

That´s my point!, I´ve seen the ugly solutions!
I´ll pay for the nice one if it´s provided, but for now I´m stuck.

[LRaiz]

He has a point though!
No he does not have a point. He continues to post open-ended and ambiguous questions without clearly stating what is it he wants to do or where he is coming from. He did it many times. Readers continue to offer him their assistance while asking him to spell out his needs more clearly. Meanwhile jiaoyanbing's behaviour continues demonstrating disrespect toward people who try to help him by sharing their knowledge about Revit. The pattern of his posts provide every reason to suspect that his agenda may be different from simply trying to learn Revit or use it as architectural design tool. If you think that I am too hard on him just search for his posts and draw your own conclusions.

[BillyGrey]

As for the author of this post, I have to agree also that his constant negative assault is becoming tiresome.

jiaoyanbing, if you are a licensed Revit user, I wonder if you have tried approaching product support with some of your issues?

[jiaoyanbing]

I suppose it would be fair to be critical of Revit for the lack of civil design tools if it claimed to serve and support that discipline's needs. It doesn't make such a claim.
i like this type of response.

[Steve_Stafford]

i like this type of response.Me too...:wink:

[Marek Brandstatter]

In defence of Jiaoyanbing...

I agree that Jiaoyanbing's posts are terse and obtuse and he has an irritating tendency for non responsiveness. However, in a strange way I enjoy his posts which are mostly focussed around Revit's advanced modelling abilities and more often than not generate interesting and enlightening responses.

A web search on his name reveals his presence on numerous modelling forums including, Max, Piranesi, Sketchup, CG Character, etc.

Here's an extract of an exchange between Jiaoyanbing and Snoopywang on an Informatix forum:


Jiaoyanbing: "Are you chinese? Can i share your experience? will you publish a book?"

Snoopywang: "Yes, I am a Chinese. And now I¡¡am writing a book which will be published in early time the next year."

Jiaoyanbing: "Sweet boy, wang, could you post some cutouts here for sharing? i am anxious to buy your english version tutorial book. i want to know when i can see this book, and are there the toturials about your works which you have ever post in this forum in it?
http://www.informatixsoftware.com/forums/showthread.php?t=379
http://www.informatixsoftware.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1363#post1363

I assume Jiaoyanbing is Chinese and that his English is poor and therefore acting as a barrier and handicap.

I hope this forum does not end up censoring the 'sweet boy'.

Oh... and note that he is finally attaching images with his posts.

[Steve_Stafford]

I hope this forum does not end up censoring the 'sweet boy'.

Not likely...

[beegee]

>>>>
A web search on his name reveals his presence on numerous modelling forums including, Max, Piranesi, Sketchup, CG Character, etc. >>>>.How do you know this is one and the same person ?

There is a jiaoyanbing who lists his home as Hungary (http://eye.box.sk/user.php?name=jiaoyanbing), (possibly ) another from China (http://bbs.hxsd.com.cn/user/info?uid=26343) and yet another whose ISP is in Australia.

All the same sweet boy ?

[Marek Brandstatter]

How do you know this is one and the same person ?
Their grammatical style is very similar. How say you?

[beegee]

I say the jury is still out.

[Marek Brandstatter]

There is a jiaoyanbing who lists his home as Hungary (http://eye.box.sk/user.php?name=jiaoyanbing), (possibly ) another from China (http://bbs.hxsd.com.cn/user/info?uid=26343) Same guy - email address is the same (jiaoyanbing@163.com)

[Lashers]

Welcome to the RIB (Revit Investigation Bureau) - :-)

I think Marek might (just) be right, the guy just won't win any communication awards! He is agressive and states only the point of the query and that is typical of people whom have little or no command of the Queens English . .heh heh . .

Sweet Boy Lashers (I might take up rapping) ;-)

[Arnel Aguel]

Welcome to the RIB (Revit Investigation Bureau) - :-)

I think Marek might (just) be right, the guy just won't win any communication awards! He is agressive and states only the point of the query and that is typical of people whom have little or no command of the Queens English . .heh heh . .

Sweet Boy Lashers (I might take up rapping) ;-)

(Rant On)
You may be right but what I found pretty annoying and tiring about his post was that he will just leave it there hanging in the air leaving people having mixed emotions and to think he is always online watching his thread goes on air then what laughing on all of us here. Try to see the pattern of his posts. If he's a real user he would have at least responded to some queries in any language he wants to answer but he will not, instead he will open another thread and says Revit can't do this. What is that suppose to mean?
(Rant off)

[LRaiz]

Some time ago it occurred to me that jiaoyanbing is not a user and in reality he is not being negative about Revit. It looks to me that he is genuinely trying to find out the limits of what the product is trying to do. However he himself does not investigate intricacies of the product he prefers to solicit opinions of real users. In the instance of this particular thread he is testing if Revit is good enough to do the job typically done by GIS systems. Elsewhere he was asking questions to find out if Revit might pretend to be a surface modeler. In yet another post he was trying to compare Revit and Pro/Engineer. Given the facts that jiaoyanbing is obviously familiar with many very different software packages and he is never able to provide details of his architectural design work I think that he is in the business that has nothing to do with architecture itself. His business most likely has something to do with software distributed in Far East but I bet he is not practicing architecture. If my suspicion is correct then jiaoyanbing is collecting the data to ultimately help him to spread Revit in his part of the world. Please note that I am not accusing him in anything. His activity may be completely legal and have nothing to do with software piracy. However he is the only one who knows his agenda and I suspect he is not going to enlighten us.

[Lashers]

(Rant On)
You may be right but what I found pretty annoying and tiring about his post was that he will just leave it there hanging in the air leaving people having mixed emotions and to think he is always online watching his thread goes on air then what laughing on all of us here. Try to see the pattern of his posts. If he's a real user he would have at least responded to some queries in any language he wants to answer but he will not, instead he will open another thread and says Revit can't do this. What is that suppose to mean?
(Rant off)

I take your point Arnel, and I am annoyed with his methods - I suspect he asks his crude questions and if he see the answer he wants in the posts - he doesn't have the social graces to drop a note of thanks!

BTW I was not being nasty or anything about the RIB quip, so I hope I didn't offend. I just thought it was funny how we could gather so much info so quickly about this guy.

It does strike me though that whatever his motives, we do see active responses to the queries that are eye opening as to what Revit can do! So maybe each cloud does have a silver lining?

I hope that Leonid's worst fears are not true!

Happy Sunday
Lashers