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Baggz_The_Builder
2025-01-22, 04:38 PM
Hello AUGI Users!

I have one question about line work in plan when it comes to steel framing. Please see the attached screenshot of my situation as I explain. My situation in which two steel beams (W14) are framing into another steel beam (W16) on a slope. One side of the beam is shown correctly (blue circle) with a break between the two pieces. The other side however is not showing correctly (red circle) and looks as if the beam itself is one straight line.

I have tried several ways to correct this, but none seem to be working. I have adjusted the heights of each member back to 0 then re-adjust back to its correct elevation. I have also completely redrawn the members in this area and adjusted to correct elevations. Either of these ways normally fixes the SNAFU, but this time I get the same result.

Anyone have any other suggestions or explanations as to why this keeps occurring?

clintonc
2025-01-23, 12:58 AM
Have you made a section thru the connection to see if the beam is at the same elevation as the joists?

if you need the joists to sit on the beam change the make sure it is at the same elevation and then use the z offset to move it below the joists.

anetace
2025-01-23, 11:54 AM
It could be a Start & End Level Offset vs Z Offset Value. On sloped structure ALL beams and joists need to use the Start and End Offsets only. I would hazard to guess that the w16 is using a Z Offset and the w14s are using Start and End Offsets, if so they will not clean up. Note that wbeams, that support K Joists, all need to use the Start and End Offsets AND then the Z Offset to drop the additional Set Depth of the K Joists

mburke.54112
2025-01-27, 01:09 PM
It could be a Start & End Level Offset vs Z Offset Value. On sloped structure ALL beams and joists need to use the Start and End Offsets only. I would hazard to guess that the w16 is using a Z Offset and the w14s are using Start and End Offsets, if so they will not clean up. Note that wbeams, that support K Joists, all need to use the Start and End Offsets AND then the Z Offset to drop the additional Set Depth of the K Joists

I second what anetace has said. Years ago, had the exact same issue with beams not cleaning up & keeping the same z offset with differing start & end level offsets solved it.