Revision cloud visibility

[danny.ferguson]

Our standard is to number revisions by sheet. On subsequent revisions, we hide the previous clouds, but leave the previous revision triangles visible. Can this be done with the Revit revision tool, or should we make revision triangle symbols and treat the clouds as dumb graphics?
Thanks

[aaronrumple]

Our standard is to number revisions by sheet. On subsequent revisions, we hide the previous clouds, but leave the previous revision triangles visible. Can this be done with the Revit revision tool, or should we make revision triangle symbols and treat the clouds as dumb graphics?
Thanks
The second is your only option at this time.

[danny.ferguson]

Thanks Aaron. That works.

[Haden]

make revision triangle symbols and treat the clouds as dumb graphics?
Thanks
Since the revision triangles are set up as tags of the clouds, how do you create the clouds to not be recognized as a specific revision, and still create the tags which are? I don't see a family for the clouds, so what is the best way to do this?

[aaronrumple]

Can't be done as you describe. The deltas are hosted by the clouds. Without them, the deltas don't even show up.

If I understand what you are trying to do, you could stuff all clouds in one revision "set" and then just use a generic annotation delta for noting the drawing.

We still fill out the titleblock by hand as our revision block is rotated and Revit doesn't let you rotate the revision schedule.

[david.kingham]

The factory is aware that we need to shut off the clouds and leave the deltas...who knows when or if it will be implemented though

[SCShell]

Hey there,

I have not tried this, and I don't know if it is possible; however, can you create a new revision cloud with the graphic over ride to be "white or invisible" lines and change the name to "Earlier Revision". That way, when you start working on Revision 2, you just highlight Revision 1 cloud, select all, and change the type to "earlier revision" in order to have the cloud go away and still leave the delta?

Maybe,
Steve

[david.kingham]

Nope that doesn't work, rev clouds are a system family so there isn't much you can do to em

[s.messing]

Nope that doesn't work, rev clouds are a system family so there isn't much you can do to em
Revision clouds are still system families, correct? We are looking to adjust the visibility of one revision cloud on one sheet only.

We have a fairly unique circumstance where we are clouding on sheets (not views) by sheet (not by project). In this circumstance, if a sheet does not need any revisions for the addendum, we still have to make a placeholder bubble and turn it off. That way, when we tag, the tag will know to pick up the next number.

So, on this particular sheet, we have a bubble that we need (as a placeholder) but we don't want to see (because it is just bubbling in space). The question is: Is there a way to hide a revision bubble?
(not using the Settings... Revisions... None) and (not using the approach of moving it off the sheet- it un-centers the sheet during a batch plot)
It would be nice to be able to filter annotations (maybe in the next release??)


Thank you for any help you can offer,
Stephen

[TroyGates]

In 2008 you can use the new 'Hide in View' to hide any object, including clouds on sheets.

[nnguyen]

Our standard is to number revisions by sheet. On subsequent revisions, we hide the previous clouds, but leave the previous revision triangles visible. Can this be done with the Revit revision tool, or should we make revision triangle symbols and treat the clouds as dumb graphics?
Thanks

Is this what you are looking for?

Settings->Revisions
The dialog box shows up and let's say you already have 3 revisions and working on the fourth. You want the Revisions triangle for 1-3 showing where every it occures, change the Visible to Tag for the 1-3 revisions and leave the 4 with cloud and tag.
See attachments.

[dbaldacchino]

You could place a tiny cloud (just one line) somewhere outside your titleblock and it won't print since it's outside the printable area.

[s.messing]

You guys are great! Thanks for your suggestions. They would all work under normal circumstances, and hopefully one of these solutions will be approved by the team...



In 2008 you can use the new 'Hide in View' to hide any object, including clouds on sheets.
Thank you. I neglected to mention that this project did not upgrade with the release of 2008 because of the callout bug (that has now been fixed with the new build (http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=9262388)). I will see if I can convince them to upgrade and the problem will be solved.





Is this what you are looking for?
Settings->Revisions
The dialog box shows up and let's say you already have 3 revisions and working on the fourth. You want the Revisions triangle for 1-3 showing where every it occures, change the Visible to Tag for the 1-3 revisions and leave the 4 with cloud and tag.
See attachments.
Unfortunately this will not exactly work for us in this very specific cirumstance. This is usually how we do it, but here we cannot because the project is batch plotted and we want revision 3 on for every sheet except this one. Settings... Revisions... is a global settings change.



You could place a tiny cloud (just one line) somewhere outside your titleblock and it won't print since it's outside the printable area.
This one will/ might not work for our situation because when you batch plot and one of the sheets has something off the edge, it will be un-centered.


Either way, your suggestions are all appreciated and excellent. I am going to push the team to upgrade (the rest of the office has already done so). This will solve the problem in the most efficient manner. If anyone has any other ideas, I am willing to listen. If not, I am going to politic my way through the upgrade discussion.

Thanks everyone!
Cheers,
Stephen

[dbaldacchino]

This one will/ might not work for our situation because when you batch plot and one of the sheets has something off the edge, it will be un-centered.
I beg to differ :) That's actually a great thing in Revit (it won't mess your printing just because something falls outside the page). Take a look at the attached pic. You can see that big cloud outside the sheet and the resulting Print Preview.....as you can see, there's no problem. When I do revisions in fact, I use a special titleblock that masks out what I don't want. It acts like a window, like a crop region in itself, and the view can stick outsite the page boundaries. It still prints perfectly since Revit recognizes the boundary you specify in the titleblock family.

[brd]

Is this what you are looking for?

Settings->Revisions
The dialog box shows up and let's say you already have 3 revisions and working on the fourth. You want the Revisions triangle for 1-3 showing where every it occures, change the Visible to Tag for the 1-3 revisions and leave the 4 with cloud and tag.
See attachments.

This method only works if you do revisions by project, not if you do them by sheet. For example, pretend "sheet A" has 3 revisions on it, and "sheet B" has none. If you set revisions 1 and 2 to show only the tag, then it will show properly on "sheet A". However, when you go to put the first revision on "sheet B", you cannot label it revision 1 because the bubble will not show up. You have to name it revision 3, even though the sheet doesn't have revisions 1 and 2. That doesn't match our standard. So that raises a big question, does Revit want us to do all our revisions by sheet, is it even worth the time to try to do it otherwise? We try hard to always make Revit match our standards, but avoid re-inventing the wheel just to please the software at the same time. So a question for all you guys... how many of you do revisions by sheet rather than by project?

Our solution here has been to stick with our method of doing by sheet. So we're going back to the way of doing 3 years ago where you just put a "dumb" revision cloud on the sheet and label it with a "dumb" symbol. That way we can label the revisions what they need to be, and you can hide any bubble you want through the graphic overrides.