Edit Wall Joins - Indication of number of options

[Damo]

Prompted by this thread http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?p=122275#post122275 here is a little usability issue that would help with the Edit Wall Joins tool.

When click on the Previous / Next configuration buttons I'd like to see an indication of the number of options that are being presented, and where you are in that list.

Like "Option 3 of 12 possible solutions"
Or simply
5/16

[iru69]

I think it's an excellent idea! (I was hoping you'd turn your comment in the other thread into a wish here).

However, those must be some really complex intersections that would necessitate flipping through fifteen or more options - it would be unusual for me to have to flip through more than about five or six.

[mlgatzke]

I've had Revit warn me that there are more than 50 versions available. I certainly don't want to get lost flipping through 50 variations.

[Wes Macaulay]

Wall joins are one of the things that drive me nuts about Revit. What I would like even more is a "Lock Wall Join" feature so that once I've set a wall join condition, it stays forever until it's unlocked. It might also prevent additional walls to join into the intersection until the join is unlocked.

[trent59822]

Wes,
I think that's a wonderful idea. And probably would get us out of wall join mire. I know since I started working in Revit 3.1 wall joins have always been an issue. Assuming the programming works out, I think this could work.

[cosmickingpin]

I once was working on a project (this was before the days of plan regions so I had to do some unusual things to get the plan to look right) anyway, wall joins were a total nightmare on that project. Plan Regions help significantly with showing unusual wall join conditions at various heights but I think we would all agree that we spend far too much time fussing around with those little corners of hate... You get them all lined up and pretty and you drag one little end over here and the whole series goes to hell down the line for some inconceivable reason. Locking a wall join, well I say we hoist the person who gets us that, upon our shoulders and parade him (or her) through the village and present them with the gifts of song and dance...



Wall joins are one of the things that drive me nuts about Revit. What I would like even more is a "Lock Wall Join" feature so that once I've set a wall join condition, it stays forever until it's unlocked. It might also prevent additional walls to join into the intersection until the join is unlocked.

[Gadget Man]

This has been mentioned many times here, but speaking of wall join options, we should also have an option to set the default joining method in advance for all consecutive created walls, until we change it again, if desired...
What do you think?

[mlgatzke]

. . . we should also have an option to set the default joining method in advance for all consecutive created walls, until we change it again, if desired...
Ooooooo, I like that idea. I never thought about it, but that would save me a LOT of time.

[Chad Smith]

And while were at it, I would like the joins to show properly in 3D views, they still show as 'healed'.

[Damo]

Whilst there are statistics and there are statistics, so far 100% of the vote are agreeing that a change in the Edit Wall Joins tool is needed.

[Gadget Man]

Whilst there are statistics and there are statistics, so far 100% of the vote are agreeing that a change in the Edit Wall Joins tool is needed.
Yeah... I wonder what will come out of it... ;-)

(I don't even want to think when..?)

[bclarch]

Instead of letting the program try and guess when it comes to complex joins, how about letting us select which individual layers we want to join to each other? There should be a modify join tool that works similar to the align tool. It should work something like this. Activate the join command. Select manual selection mode. Click on a layer to join others to, click on layer(s) to be joined. Continue until all layers are joined as you want them to be. Click finish manual join button to accept the results. That way we could explicitly control which finish, substrate or core layers should join to other finish, substrate or core layers instead of cycling through the program generated options hoping that our desired configuration will magically appear.

[sfaust]

Instead of letting the program try and guess when it comes to complex joins, how about letting us select which individual layers we want to join to each other? There should be a modify join tool that works similar to the align tool. It should work something like this. Activate the join command. Select manual selection mode. Click on a layer to join others to, click on layer(s) to be joined. Continue until all layers are joined as you want them to be. Click finish manual join button to accept the results. That way we could explicitly control which finish, substrate or core layers should join to other finish, substrate or core layers instead of cycling through the program generated options hoping that our desired configuration will magically appear.That is an excellent idea. I think something similar has been suggested before, and I still think it's the best way to go about it.

incidentally, the disallow join with right click in 8.0 is very handy and helpful. Still need this though.

[Gadget Man]

Yes, that would be great, but whatever is done, please don't remove the current options! Simply add the new one... That goes for every new feature!!!!

[augi.60798]

I was just thinking about this... what I'd like to see is some sort of visual of all the possible joins for a corner -- maybe a dialog with all of the butt and miter joins, as well as the default shown, so that you can select the right one, or see if Revit doesn't know the right one before cycling through however many there are to find out.