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knurrebusk
2005-05-13, 11:25 PM
I enjoy the architecture of "Rudolph Michael Schindler!" greatly.
And I´m finally finishing 3 villa projects that are influenced by his style in a way.
Are we not all influenced by something ;)
But after many hours of design, I feel the time has come for more practical work.
I will be very grateful if someone in this forum could lead me in the right direction, regarding flat roofs/leakage problems.
I´m gonna fix this problem before building is final, but why invent the weel 2 times.
Is anyone in this forum familiar with long term problems regarding flat roofs?
Edit: Moved to this forum, as not a Revit question.
Lashers
2005-05-14, 09:31 AM
Do you have any idea what roof construction you will be using? Concrete/timber/steel? They each have different problems - generally, workmanship is the primary cause for leaks, then there is damage by following trades.
Long term a good flat roof "if done properly" should last you 15 to 30 years without major repair or refurbishment - but first you need to decide your general requirements regarding construction . . . for all I know you may be wanting a grassed roof?? now they are fun, and a technical nightmare!
I will look up RMS his name is familiar but I have never seen any of his work.
Catch you laters
Scott Hopkins
2005-05-15, 10:57 PM
I don't know how much money your client has to spend, but if you are looking for superior quality and durability, Hydrotech offers some excellent roofing solutions.
http://www.hydrotechusa.com/ (http://www.hydrotechusa.com/)
Then again if you can't afford the Lexus of roofing products you can always go with a standard built-up asphalt roof. The only advice I have there is to keep your slopes to a minimum of 1/2" per foot. I have spoked with many roofers and roofing consultants who claim that the common standard of 1/4" per foot just doesn't cut it in the real world.
knurrebusk
2005-05-16, 11:35 PM
Thanks´s for the feedback Lashers /Scoot, I´m looking for both cheap and expensive solutions, since I´m involved in several projects.
All of the roofs should be as flat as possible though.
Is this an alternative perhaps!
http://www.everest.co.uk/flatroofs/flat_roofs.cfm
I´ll post some images in the gallery when I´m more relaxed, for now I need to deliver final drawings on older projects .
knurrebusk
2005-05-17, 12:03 AM
" for all I know you may be wanting a grassed roof?? now they are fun, and a technical nightmare!"
Well! that´s my next project :)
On a cliff hovering 12m over the sea, with sunset view.
The clients are already stretched from a classic home to modern design, so adding grass to the roof will need nice renders.
Lashers
2005-05-17, 09:41 AM
" for all I know you may be wanting a grassed roof?? now they are fun, and a technical nightmare!"
Well! that´s my next project :)
On a cliff hovering 12m over the sea, with sunset view.
The clients are already stretched from a classic home to modern design, so adding grass to the roof will need nice renders.
YOU'RE EVIL!! Why are you having all the fun jobs!! ha ha ha . .I just saw the render in the gallery . .so ignore my comment re where you are . .
Regarding the flat roof construction - I can recommend TROCAL (single ply membrane) I have used them many times and always had excellent service. This will allow you to have the roof structure of any material and keep it near flat. I can dig up my contact info if you like, I also have some "floppies" around with details if you want me to post a CD?
Cheers
knurrebusk
2005-05-17, 11:59 AM
YOU'RE EVIL!! Why are you having all the fun jobs!! ha ha ha . .I just saw the render in the gallery . .so ignore my comment re where you are . .
Regarding the flat roof construction - I can recommend TROCAL (single ply membrane) I have used them many times and always had excellent service. This will allow you to have the roof structure of any material and keep it near flat. I can dig up my contact info if you like, I also have some "floppies" around with details if you want me to post a CD?
Cheers
Great! That just saved me many hours of work :)
Since most of my current projects need a roof as flat as possible with a slim look to it.
I think I found their website www.sika.com
Lashers
2005-05-17, 10:00 PM
Yea, I forgot that Sika had bought them out! Mind you, I won't be giving Sika any awards for web site clarity and ease of use!
Let me know if/when you want the details.
knurrebusk
2005-05-18, 10:56 PM
I spent 10 min just to confirm they delivered the product I was looking for!
I talked to my client today ,and he was positive.
If you could post the details this weekend I would appreciate it very much!
I `ll try to return the favour!
I`m under a bit of pressure in another project (terrace apartments), and need to be solid in my statements ;) concerning flat roofs/leakage/structural ability etc.
Also need to make integrated parking space on the same steep site. with limited access.
Think I´ll just ask a friend that is into Rhino for some assistance, problem is that this work will be useless in further development of the property.
Seems like I´m looking into trouble!, I know curved/sloped roads/curbs is Revit's weak side.
Revit really needs better site tools!!
I feel like driving a BMW on bicycle weels when I try to plan a steep site :(
Lashers
2005-05-19, 12:16 PM
If only life was easy!
I tend to take the attitude that " its better to have a work problem, rather than having no work at all"!! ha ha . . I hope you find your way through.
I have decided that if my clients aren't going to allow me to be adventurous, then I will have my own fantasy project . . . if only i could squeeze it in! I need to stretch the brain muscles regarding what Revit can and can't do.
knurrebusk
2005-05-19, 11:00 PM
If only life was easy!
I need to stretch the brain muscles regarding what Revit can and can't do.
If you need a challenge he he
I´ll send you the toposurface with property lines etc !
My solution to parking space/apartment space is just what it is! (desperate)..
It´s 40-50 unit´s of condo/terrace apartments, smallest 90 square m.
But the main problem is a integrated file of curved/sloped access roads together with the site/apartments.
The client is very open to modern design, and needs something spesial to show off for the board very fast, that`s why I´ve been a bit negative with Revit`s site tools.
Lashers
2005-05-20, 04:22 PM
U got my email?
Throw it at me, I wouldn't mind a play.
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