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iru69
2005-05-31, 04:49 PM
I'm not sure what the best way is to achieve stacked finishes on a single wall for this situation - please see attachments.

I'm not sure the stacked wall tool will work because as I understand it, only the top component of the wall will attach to a roof above.

Is there a way to do it with a vertical compound wall?

Is the best way to try stacking two different wall types on top of each other and editing their profiles?

Or is it maybe better to use a single core wall and stack up finish wall types next to it?

Any other methods that would work well or pitfalls to avoid?

Thanks for any suggestions.

PeterJ
2005-05-31, 05:13 PM
Is the best way to try stacking two different wall types on top of each other and editing their profiles?
Do this and then use the join geometry tool and the internal full height face should appear as a single skin of plasterboard with the studwork/masonry lining straight through. You'll want to arrange the wall line to run on the inner face or on the core centre. Play with joining the roof too and you should get something which ties everything together with all the layers meeting correctly when cut in section

tamas
2005-05-31, 06:44 PM
No need to use edited profiles. Just attach the wall top and/or bottom to the roofs:

You could make the core as one wall, then two finish layer walls (with possibly different thickness). Then attach the finish walls to the roof to make their shape correct.
(The interior one is attached at the top, the exterior is attached at the bottom and top.)

Or if you don't care about the different finish thickness, you can simply split the face of the core wall and paint the upper portion with siding material, the bottom portion with interior finish material.

You are correct that the Stacked Wall type will not help here. The line between subwalls is always horizontal. Same for vertically compound walls.

Tamas

patricks
2005-05-31, 07:01 PM
No need to use edited profiles. Just attach the wall top and/or bottom to the roofs:

You could make the core as one wall, then two finish layer walls (with possibly different thickness). Then attach the finish walls to the roof to make their shape correct.
(The interior one is attached at the top, the exterior is attached at the bottom and top.)

Or if you don't care about the different finish thickness, you can simply split the face of the core wall and paint the upper portion with siding material, the bottom portion with interior finish material.

You are correct that the Stacked Wall type will not help here. The line between subwalls is always horizontal. Same for vertically compound walls.

Tamas


Problem there is that the roof would have to either be between each wall ("breaking" the continuity of the walls), or you would have a gap between the 2 walls attached to the roof.

In reality, the structure of that wall would most likely run up continuous to the upper roof, with different finishes attached to the structure above and below the lower roof. The lower roof would frame into the wall and have flashing and sheathing and all that.

I think the best option would be to either use 2 separate walls with edited profiles, and then join the wall geometry together, or use a separate wall for each finish layer. Don't forget to join geometry of the finish walls to the main wall so that any doors will insert correctly through both walls.

iru69
2005-05-31, 07:15 PM
Thanks for the replies!

I've already started a few walls using Peter's suggestion, but I think I'll also try a few walls using Tama's suggestion, and see which is easier for this particular project I'm working on.

iru69
2005-05-31, 07:19 PM
Problem there is that the roof would have to either be between each wall ("breaking" the continuity of the walls), or you would have a gap between the 2 walls attached to the roof.

That's what I thought Tamas was saying at first as well - but I think Tamas meant to use a single core wall from the floor to the the top roof, and add two separate finish walls that could be attached to the underside of the roof (for the drywall) and the top of the roof (for the siding), and thus avoiding editing the profiles.

tamas
2005-05-31, 09:16 PM
That's what I thought Tamas was saying at first as well - but I think Tamas meant to use a single core wall from the floor to the the top roof, and add two separate finish walls that could be attached to the underside of the roof (for the drywall) and the top of the roof (for the siding), and thus avoiding editing the profiles. Yes, this is exactly how I meant it. The core wall from the ground to the top roof, and the two finish walls attached to the respective roofs.

By the way, I agree with patricks' suggestion on the join geometry between the finish and core walls to make inserts behave properly.

Tamas