can filled region be drawn on a specific workplane

[Chirag Mistry]

The restroom wall needs tile pattern and I dont want to edit the wall style.
Is there any way I can draw a pattern using filled region on a specific workplane ?

[cosmickingpin]

Try using the split face command and paint bucket the area with your tile pattern.



The restroom wall needs tile pattern and I dont want to edit the wall style.
Is there any way I can draw a pattern using filled region on a specific workplane ?

[patricks]

Filled regions in a model view will always cover and obscure model objects. They do not have a specific location in space, so whatever model elements are visible in the view will appear to be behind the filled region.

[Chirag Mistry]

split face works, but will not show in the elevation...shows in axon 3D...any clue ?

[cosmickingpin]

Your material? are you using a model pattern or a drafting pattern? Model patterns scale to the view scale whereas drafting patterns do not, so your view scale may be causing your drafting pattern to not show.


split face works, but will not show in the elevation...shows in axon 3D...any clue ?

[Chirag Mistry]

well we tried couple of things the model material shows in the 3D view, but will not in the elevation..any help please..thanks

[cosmickingpin]

Elevation view right? Check Visibility/Graphics to make sure walls and surface patterns subset are turned on. Change the scale of your elevation to match the 3d view and see if that pops it up, if it does then your surface pattern is set to a drafting pattern and is not scalling to your view scale. Copy and paste the wall into a new file and check if the view problem persists, if so post that little file here and I will take a look at it.
Change your Detail level in your elevation to "fine" and see what that gets your. it feels like a view scale issue. The separate region shows up right? you see the split between the two regions right? Under Visibility/Graphics you have the subset of surface pattern under walls turned on right?



well we tried couple of things the model material shows in the 3D view, but will not in the elevation..any help please..thanks

[aaronrumple]

Best way to do ocasional tile walls without editing and making a complex wall type is just make a "tile" wall with only a single element of tile. This can be placed next to other walls and the join tool will clean up the linework. It keeps thinks "real" and is quick.

(...btw - I'm a few floors up and for hire. ;-) )

[Chirag Mistry]

works like a charm..it is always the most simple solution...visibility off...thanks a lot

[roy.70844]

... Model patterns scale to the view scale whereas drafting patterns do not....

Sorry Cosmic, call me Mr.Picky but shouldn't that be the other way round? Model patterns do not scale (eg Brick pattern stays at 225x65 even if you change view scale)
Drafting patterns do scale with view

Is that right? I'm now confused....

Roy.

[cosmickingpin]

Actually no i think I am correct and you are corect. kind of, sorta By "scale to the view" I meant that model pattern changes scale to remain constant with regard to the scale of the view. Drafting patterns do not scale and change when the view scale changes. You are correct about the behavior, however what is "scaling" when I say "scale" I mean that the patterns responds and scales itself to the scale of the view, where as the drafting patterns retain their original scale and show at that level no matter what the scale. So I guess it depends on how you look at it, like most things that fall under the category of truth.


Sorry Cosmic, call me Mr.Picky but shouldn't that be the other way round? Model patterns do not scale (eg Brick pattern stays at 225x65 even if you change view scale)
Drafting patterns do scale with view

Is that right? I'm now confused....

Roy.

[roy.70844]

Hey Cosmic, I see your point. We all use different tactics to help us understand the [Revit] World. I think the difference in our approach is that I compare the 'size' of the pattern to it's surrounding geometry therefore if a wall is 3 bricks long and 3 bricks high using the model pattern you will see the 3x3 brick pattern regardless of plotting scale (within reason) so the pattern has not scaled relative to surrounding geometry with any change of plot scale (but it has scaled in respect to the view)
Whereas a drafting pattern such as used when sectioning a brick might show 2 pairs of hatch lines at 1:20 but 4 pairs of hatch lines at 1:10 so the pattern has scaled relative to the surrounding geometry.

As Einstein said... Never mind I'm going for a lie down!
Having looked at the help file I think you are the 'more' correct.
However 'You say potato I say potato. You say tomato I say tomato...etc'

Roy

Ps that last line didn't really work in print did it?

[Chirag Mistry]

Great guys, one last question

Is there a way to align the tile pattern...like centered on a wall or to the toilet fixtures?

I used to align the ceiling grid...but dont know since we are using the paint bucket...is there a way to do the same

Thanks

[cosmickingpin]

Should work the same way, just align or move one line in the pattern the same way you do a ceiling grid. i am pretty sure the paint bucket shouldn't make any difference. Are you talking about a rendered view? cause that is a little different.



Great guys, one last question

Is there a way to align the tile pattern...like centered on a wall or to the toilet fixtures?

I used to align the ceiling grid...but dont know since we are using the paint bucket...is there a way to do the same

Thanks

[Chirag Mistry]

Ok this is what I got...

I have created a split face on the wall and filled it using paint bucket with the tile pattern...now I tried align but I cant select the pattern and if I do edit...I am editing the split face boundary.

[cosmickingpin]

It alligns and works fine when I do it. Press your TAB key until only a portion of the patter highlights and the allign or move that element where ever you want. Is this a rendered view you are talking about? Alligning rendered patterns, thats a whole another story.


Ok this is what I got...

I have created a split face on the wall and filled it using paint bucket with the tile pattern...now I tried align but I cant select the pattern and if I do edit...I am editing the split face boundary.

[Chirag Mistry]

Please check the attached file...I have one wall and have done a split face and applied tile pattern now there is another wall that is perpendicular to the previous wall and forms a 'T'. I want to adjust the tile pattern to align with the small wall...for some reason I am not able to select the pattern...or is there anyway to control the pattern..so it centers in the given area or starts from either left or right.

Thanks

[Allen Lacy]

You need to change the surface pattern of the tile material to a Model pattern instead of a drafting pattern. The you should be able to align it as you wish.

[Chirag Mistry]

works great now...thanks a ton guys

[cosmickingpin]

Ok starting to drive me nuts here. Use a model pattern! not a drafting pattern! (like I told you in my second post) If you use a model pattern you can allign it perfectly. i am fine you are doing fine I am not mad or anything, we all get these moments when we are new to Revit and others were very patient with me, so don't sweat it.


Please check the attached file...I have one wall and have done a split face and applied tile pattern now there is another wall that is perpendicular to the previous wall and forms a 'T'. I want to adjust the tile pattern to align with the small wall...for some reason I am not able to select the pattern...or is there anyway to control the pattern..so it centers in the given area or starts from either left or right.

Thanks

[Chirag Mistry]

Well am pretty new to REVIT and am trying to understand how REVIT works...so far I am pretty impressed, its just going to take sometime...anyways, thanks a ton for all your help guys