Visibility issues - finding hidden objects

[Martin P]

with all the different ways to hide objects in a view - I think a button to temporarily override ALL visibility settings and switch everything ON - phasing, visibilty settings (all), hide annotation in view, linework, detail level, temporary hide objects, plan regions, crop regions,filled regions, view depth - did I miss any? these can all hide things from you - a way to temporarily switch them all to display Everything that could be in that view would be great for finding visibility problems - if they were colour coded to show which setting has switched them off that would also help a lot.......

example this button swtich between the view settings and this...
view depth to default setting (user adjustable option for this?)
crop regions off
phase filter to none
display objects with all detail levels shown
temp hide off
all linework off
all filled regions off
all visibility settings to on and default

You ould be able to add a pick beside each to choose which were affected.


ALSO any view that has some categories off, linework etc etc (ie has been altered in some way) there should be some sort of graphical display that simply shows you which of these things are in use in that view so you know straight away that something in the view has been altered in some way - and which settings are affecting the view........ it could relate in some way to the colour coding mentioned above.

[gbrowne]

Would it be true to say, when you copy off a plan to make either proposed or existing or whatever, the level plan you leave is kinda like what you are asking for? everything on and not phased or filtered?

Is what you are suggesting reminiscent of, dare I say, layer filters?

[Martin P]

Is what you are suggesting reminiscent of, dare I say, layer filters?



No, not at all like that - just an OFF or ON - View templates are a close enough to layer filters ;)

This is just a Switch between
make everything visible / make view as it was before.

That way you can see everything that could be in the view dependant on all the various settings, and see if something is hidden by settings or linework etc..... or if its just not there at all..... there are so many ways with Revit to hide an object it can be hard when goback to something to remember how it was done.

[gbrowne]

Ok, fair enough, but what about the "default" view, (the original named level plan views) which would have everything left on it?

Is that not about the same thing?

[Martin P]

The point to the wish is really that I would be able to instantly tell in any given view if it has been altered, there is not way to know at the moment, which I dont like - a duplicate view would be close yes, but then I have a lot of duplicate views that I dont need for anything else - and I already have too many view to deal with to be honest. I use this workaround at the moment - I duplicate a view, but it is just that, a workaround - it is what has given rise to the wish.....

At the very least there ought to be a toggle for display of edits with the linework tool.

[gbrowne]

Like the temporary hide/isolate command?

[Martin P]

No. (sorry! I keep disagreeing with you!!)

I am talking about edits with the linework tool, not drawn lines. (I had the same confusion with this tool not so long ago - it really is badly named!)

It changes the properties of a line that you pick on any object. You can hide objects completely with it - and there is no way to know in a view if this has been done.

Temporary hide has no effect on it and there is no way to know in a view if it has been used -

I see it as a problem when I am in somebody elses drawings, I have to duplicate Every view to see if it has been used. I cant duplicate elevations.

[mlgatzke]

This would also be handy in the case of a "Hide annotation in view". I prefer to hide certain markers (e.g. exterior elevation marks - this way interior elevation marks remain visible) rather than turn them off with VG. The problem is that it makes them VERY hard to find in the future.

[Archman]

Martin, I agree, a way to temporarily override the linework on a drawing would be nice. It is difficult at the moment to know what is linework and what is the unaltered model.