memorize various furniture positions in various phases

[gravelin]

Pour planifier des déménagements de bureau par exemple, il faudrait pouvoir mémoriser (ou non) la position du mobilier ou des équipements dans chaque phase.
Actuellement, il est necessaire de démolir et de recréer, mais ce n'est plus le même composant, son ID est différent.

To plan the removal of an office for example, it would be necessary to be able to memorize (or not) the position of the furnitures or the equipments in each phase. Currently, it is necessary to demolish and recreate, but it is not any more the same component, its ID is different.

[Steve_Stafford]

What you ask for isn't possible as you say...other than to demolish and place new. You could use an arbitrary value (other than Mark) as identification that two pieces can share so they "appear" to be the same piece of furniture, moved.

This suggests an interesting new feature for Revit that building owners, Tenant Improvement firms would enjoy. To allow a single object to represent its original location and its new location presents some interesting challenges for the programmers I'm sure. But imagine a view that could show both in context, with arrows between positions? Interesting? Confusing maybe, depending how much change is taking place. Then again what does it show when a piece moves to another floor? An arrow with a note see Level 3?

[gravelin]

At first, the interest was (IMO) for schedules.
It would be very useful to plan the removals : moves from ... to ...
I agree that graphical representation could be confusing.

[jbalding48677]

Sounds to me to be a mix of design options and phasing? Have you tried to use desing options in conjuction with the phases?

[gravelin]

Sounds to me to be a mix of design options and phasing? Have you tried to use desing options in conjuction with the phases?Bonne idée Jim, J'ai donc essayé.
Cela m'a semblé une bonne piste lorsque j'ai commencé...
Mais
1- les phases sont sans effet car les variantes créées dans la phases "après" existent dans TOUTES les phases. Il devient donc impossible de localiser un élément à un instant donné.
2- lors de la création des variantes, les objets dupliqués ont des ID différentes. Il est donc nécessaire de procéder comme le suggère Steve en créant une référence arbitraire d'identification. Mais cela pose un Problème avec l'export IFC qui ne connait pas les paramètres des objets de Revit.

Good idea Jim , so I tested it.
That seemed to me a good track when I started...
But
1- the phases have no effect because the options created in the phases "after" exist in ALL the phases. Thus It becomes impossible to locate any element at any moment.
2- during the creation of the option, the duplicated objects receive different ID. Thus it's necessary to proceed as Steve suggests by creating an arbitrary reference to identify the furnitures. But that is a Problem with the IFC export which did not recognize the parameters of the Revit's objects.

[jbalding48677]

Sorry about that, I thought there was an outside chance it would work.

[Tom Dorner]

Just to expand on Steve Stafford's post......

We do a lot of Tenant Improvement work where not only the furniture moves locations, but doors and millwork do as well. These objects are not really "demolished" but rather moved to a new location and it would be great to show that in a schedule.

Just to add another twist to the programming logic, sometimes an item moves not only to a different floor but a different building or storage facility.

Tom