Weird wall opening

[pfrederico]

Hi there. I have been trying to create the following opening (see attachement). I know I can do it on a custom made wall, by creating a couple of extrusions, but that way I don't get to see none of the wall layers if I cut it, because the wall's meant to be made by more than one material.

Is this possible or do I have to create a specific family for this?

[eldad]

the quickest easiest way would be to create a void familly (2 voids really).

[beegee]

The OOTB metric door families include an " Opening Cased " ( note this loads as a generic family )

You could easily amend this to delete the casing if you wished.

[pfrederico]

Void families don't cut through walls. They only cut through custom-made walls made through the "create" tool or other masses.

The door family seems a good way to go, but even if I do create the opening that goes from one side to the other, how do I make the recessed opening that only opens up to halfway into the wall?

EDIT: I just found out the following. If you make a door family, or any wall-based family and you delete ANY openings from it you can use voids to cut through the wall! Hopefully this will work.

EDIT2: IT DOES WORK! Now I just gotta do this from scratch in a generic family. Otherwise it'll count towards the door count in the door schedule and I'm off. Thanks guys!

[Steve_Stafford]

Void families don't cut through walls. They only cut through custom-made walls made through the "create" tool or other masses.This isn't quite accurate...voids that are made in a wall hosted family type will cut the wall if you tell Revit to cut the wall using the Cut Geometry tool...if you were correct I couldn't have made these families... THIS THREAD (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=17165&highlight=arch)

[Arnel Aguel]

There are few ways actually to do that and the easiest way that i can think of is to use the opening component under windows family (i preferred this over the others i.e. opening tool, doors etc. because it already has a linework when cut in floor plan) for the void that cut through the wall thickness then another in place void to cut out the recessed part. In place void will cut through system family walls provided that you use the cut geometry tool prior to finishing off the void family.

Or you can do it all together using wall hosted void as suggested by Steve.

Hope this helps.

[eddy.lermytte]

I hoped to find an answer in this thread to a question I had....but I don't.

When a layered wall get cut by a void or Rfa. the surface patterns of the layers do not show up.
In the case of the recessed wall, one could expect that an internal layer surface pattern should show up in elevation or 3d view.

I walked around this in the past by using the paint tool
or do you model the layers separately and joining them
or do I miss something ?

[Mike Hardy-Brown]

Eddy

have you tried to edit the shape of the opening?
use a void and cut geometry
see attached, is that what you were looking for?

[sbrown]

What I do is make the void larger by the width of the finish material, then add a solid extrusion or sweep back in for the finish. Then you can assign its material.

[Arnel Aguel]

When a layered wall get cut by a void or Rfa. the surface patterns of the layers do not show up.
In the case of the recessed wall, one could expect that an internal layer surface pattern should show up in elevation or 3d view.



That would be nice though but i don't think its possible right now.

[eddy.lermytte]

Mike, Scott, Arnel...Thanks for reply.
I know now I did not miss something.