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Henry D
2004-01-31, 12:05 PM
This has been discussed before, but seeing this link really makes me want it.
How come ADT gets it before Revit?

http://sketchup.com/ADT/ADT_videos.php

Steve_Stafford
2004-01-31, 12:17 PM
Three letters, API...is my guess. Voting no sometimes has negative outcome :cry:

I still don't want a customizable future like AutoCAD because the consistency Revit offers is predicatable and reliable.

But an API to let SketchUP play on the team, I'm in...

GuyR
2004-01-31, 07:22 PM
Three letters, API...is my guess. Voting no sometimes has negative outcome

I would think an application like this would need more than an API. .Autodesk are clearly keen to have sketchup support so it's probably something else.

Sketchup is essentially a shell modelling system. Revit has intelligent solid elements.
How would you translate a sketchup window into a Revit window family?
How would you translate a sketchup skin floor into a revit floor and what thickness?
A roof? it would have to calculate eave widths etc.

Mapping elements from sketchup2revit with any intelligence seems like I'd be a big job.Perhaps translating to massing elements in Revit might be easier. Failing that, do the revit thing and purchase sketchup and integrated the technology :-)

Guy

mlgatzke
2004-01-31, 09:27 PM
I think there is a misunderstanding here. ADT does not have a SketchUp "plug-in." The fact is that SketchUp has been modified with an ADT import capability. Therefore, if you want the same capability in SketchUp as ADT, you'll have to address your request to the SketchUp team.

By the way, this should be MUCH easier now with Revit 6.0 and it's material coding for VIZ5.

Henry D
2004-01-31, 09:56 PM
Mike, I see what you mean...this wish should really be directed to the SketchUp people.

Guy, Did you see the short videos on the SketchUp link? Couldn't the same simple rules like vertical surfaces become walls, horizontal become slabs, and sloping become roof slabs be used with Revit? I don't know anything about programming, but maybe the Revit code is not as accessible to the SketchUp programmers as the ADT code.

Kroke
2004-01-31, 10:17 PM
By the way, this should be MUCH easier now with Revit 6.0 and it's material coding for VIZ5.

Can you explain more on what you mean by this? I'm going to export my last revit 6 project out for my roomate to render/animate it in max5 so I want as many pointers as I can get about the best solution to do this for material assignments, etc.

TIA

~JJ

GuyR
2004-01-31, 10:53 PM
Guy, Did you see the short videos on the SketchUp link? Couldn't the same simple rules like vertical surfaces become walls, horizontal become slabs, and sloping become roof slabs be used with Revit?

But if the vertical surface was drawn as part of a column in sketchup how would revit know this face is part of a column and not a wall?etc etc.
Sketchups power is it doesn't assume anything. You can push and pull at will.
I'm not saying it's impossible, all I'm saying is straight to revit elements might be harder than we think.


By the way, this should be MUCH easier now with Revit 6.0 and it's material coding for VIZ5

Not sure what this means? Are you referring to dwg including odbc ID references?

Guy

gregcashen
2004-01-31, 11:28 PM
my understanding is that this is done with the xdata that is exported now in 6.0...this xdata contains the material assignments linked to the object id, so viz maintains the connections and knows what elements should be what materials.

mlgatzke
2004-02-01, 04:24 AM
my understanding is that this is done with the xdata that is exported now in 6.0...this xdata contains the material assignments linked to the object id, so viz maintains the connections and knows what elements should be what materials.

Exactly. However, Kroke, Max5 won't work. VIZ5 is an upcoming version of VIZ. Max is currently running one version ahead of VIZ. Neither of these "current" versions can use the xdata that is exported by Revit 6.0. I said this with an assumption that SketchUp was using some of ADTs extended data. If not, it should be even easier for SketchUp.