Callout references and type problems

[JohnCAVogt]

I read the thread Drafting View, Detail View, Floor Plan, Sections started by chiragmistry on August 20 but I think I have a dilemma that the replies did not address (I think ... if the answer was there I apologize for not being able to see it) - I create a callout of a plan, and I want the view to organize in the browser as a detail view, not a floor plan view, because I have too damn many floor plan views already. Now I cannot reference that detail view in another callout in the same plan, because, as the help says, "Callouts in section, plan, elevation, or callout views can reference cropped views of the same type in which the callout was placed." In other words, once I make a callout that is not a floor plan, I can't reference it in another callout on that same floor plan? I callout a mullion as a detail view, and now cannot reference that callout at another location in the same view? This makes no sense to me why this would be, and I would love like to hear that I got this wrong, because my project has about 30 detail views already inserted on sheets that I don't want to have to redo from scratch just so I can get callout references.

My solution for the future is to make all callouts floor plan type, and reorganize my browser so that it subsorts by scale ...

[tatjana.dzambazova]

hi John
let me try: if i understand correctly, you wish to make a detail callout in plan and then make a detail callout in section and reference the detail callout of plan with the section callout?
if thats what you want, that is possible:
1. go to floor plan
2. select Callout and change the type to Detail
3. draw the callout where you want it in plan.
4. make a section of the building
5. in the section select Callout and set its type to Detail
6. prior to drawing the callout in the section , in the options bar select refence other view and select the first detail callout that you made in the plan

This is it, unless I completely misunderstood you :)
if i did, please let me know
thanks

[beegee]

My take, is that John wants to have two Detail callouts in the same plan view, so that one callout references the other.

As he points out, from the Help quote, Revit does not allow this.

It would be good to include for a future release ?

[JohnCAVogt]

Tatjana,

Yes, you misunderstood. The attached picture shows what I can do as long as the callout type is a floor plan. If the first callout type is a detail view, I cannot get the same reference in a similar callout in the same view, it does not appear in the pull down list. I can't see why the view type would have anything to do with it. Whether it's a detail view or a floor plan view, to the user, is just an abstract label, and my user had a preference only for the purpose of making the browser organize things differently, not for any other functional difference between what makes it a floor plan and what makes it a detail view. And my problem is, as I stated earlier, that my user did not know of this limitation before making many detail callouts that he would now like to reference just like this.

[aaronrumple]

...tell them to read the instructions first.

In your particular situation, I would do the door jamb detail as just a drafted view.

You could get it all straightened out pretty quickly. Just make a new plan detail and copy/paste the drafting elements to the new view. Then the other ref's can point to this as you noted.

Or export the detail to DWG. Then import the DWG to a drafting view and have them all ref. that detail.

This is one of those little things that really should be changed. Maybe they'll get it done when they take care of the elevation symbol.

[chaines]

Is it possible to change the 'type' (plan or detail) of callout after you have already created the it?