Error message when exploding autocad drawing

[DanielleAnderson]

See the attached image...
All I was trying to do was explode an autocad drawing so that I could manipulate it around and then make it part of the door family, but I kept getting this error message which obviously tells me NOTHING--literally.
Thanks for the help!

Danielle

[truevis]

I believe that it means whatever you think it means.

Could be worse...

[truevis]

In general, it's probably best to make sure the DWG you import is as clean as possible. In ACAD: overkill, purge, xref bind, explode, etc. May help.

[DanielleAnderson]

Yep--I always do that, I have just never seen this error before, and it crashed the whole program. I would love to know why that happens and what the blank error message means--could it be a bug?

[Steve_Stafford]

Judging from the sketchy look of the linework in red I'm guessing that there are too many "tiny" segments for Revit to cope with. Really doesn't like little tiny segments.

[DanielleAnderson]

Hmm...that's a bummer...I was trying to put a manufacturer's door information into my revit file so that it would show up in plan.

[cosmickingpin]

Did you partial explode? You may need to clean up the cad file, manufacturer cad files are notoriously messy and badly drafted in my experience.

[truevis]

I'm finding it kind of funny how we are trying to interpret an error message that says nothing. Kind of an Oracle thing.


Could be worse...

[DanielleAnderson]

Regardless--I would still like to know if this has happened to anyone else? Is this kind of thing a bug? Or is revit just really picky about autocad drawings? And let me add that when I downloaded this detail off of the manufacturer's website--I did clean it up, purge it, audit it, etc. I even simplified it a bit...
Does anyone have any other insight? I am trying to convince revit-wary-co-workers that Revit is friendly with existing autocad details, etc. and these sorts of issues are not helping...

[aaronrumple]

Look in the journal file. There might be more detailed information there.

[cosmickingpin]

Could you post the cad file? This is odd behavior. This might be a really old autocad file dating back to r10 or something. Normally exploding only is a problem if you are talking about a huge file +10,000 objects. But this detail souldn't have that. Let's have a look at the original file and see if we can reporduce your results. Its hard to diagnose from your observations. Please post the cad file and the revit file you have imported it into.

the revit road is not perfectly smooth and flat, there are bumps from time to time, I think most perfre a revit bump to a Cad pit


Regardless--I would still like to know if this has happened to anyone else? Is this kind of thing a bug? Or is revit just really picky about autocad drawings? And let me add that when I downloaded this detail off of the manufacturer's website--I did clean it up, purge it, audit it, etc. I even simplified it a bit...
Does anyone have any other insight? I am trying to convince revit-wary-co-workers that Revit is friendly with existing autocad details, etc. and these sorts of issues are not helping...

[DanielleAnderson]

the revit road is not perfectly smooth and flat, there are bumps from time to time, I think most prefer a revit bump to a Cad pit

I would agree with you there...and it does get a little tiring to always have to be the revit cheerleader at work...Okay, I've attached the original file and the modified one, and I think that Steve may be right in all of this, that it's got lots of little tiny lines when exploded and revit can't deal with it. I ended up making it work by making all the drawing changes in autocad and then leaving the revised drawing un-exploded in revit and it worked fine. I just wanted to make sure that this wasn't a case of revit not playing nicely with autocad--those kinds of things are difficult to explain to the autocad people around here...

[cosmickingpin]

I inserted the cad file into a project and exploded it no problem.
When I inserted it into a family file and then exploded it, I did get your blank error message, but i click ok and it explodes it just fine, i don't see the problem with the exception of the blank error message, maybe its an everything is ok message.
I don't see any problem with a blank error message. There are a ton of blocks in the file, exploding the cad file might have something to do with that 9but that's a maybe at best) I don't see any problem here, revit handles it just fine.
Does it explode when you click ok? See if this eliminates the error (I can't do it because our license server is off line at the moment):

Insert the cad file into a drafting view in your project, explode it, then export that view to cad, then insert that cad file into the family, if you still get the error message lets pretend it a hug from revit.



I would agree with you there...and it does get a little tiring to always have to be the revit cheerleader at work...Okay, I've attached the original file and the modified one, and I think that Steve may be right in all of this, that it's got lots of little tiny lines when exploded and revit can't deal with it. I ended up making it work by making all the drawing changes in autocad and then leaving the revised drawing un-exploded in revit and it worked fine. I just wanted to make sure that this wasn't a case of revit not playing nicely with autocad--those kinds of things are difficult to explain to the autocad people around here...

[DanielleAnderson]

So when you exploded it, did it take like a half hour to explode after you clicked okay on the error message? That's why I thought it was a little odd...Then after it would finally finish exploding, I would import the family into my project and it would crash revit every time...maybe it was just me, who knows...thanks for looking at it though.

A hug--nice...why can't it say "I love you Danielle"???

[cosmickingpin]

No, it exploded instantly, like a 2 second pause at most, no crash either, did it two times each to be sure. sound like a system/ hardware problem, and everyone should be aware that Revit workstations need to be far more robust than 2d cad stations, a gig of ram minimal.

Maybe it just wants to be friends without generating unintended expectations.



So when you exploded it, did it take like a half hour to explode after you clicked okay on the error message? That's why I thought it was a little odd...Then after it would finally finish exploding, I would import the family into my project and it would crash revit every time...maybe it was just me, who knows...thanks for looking at it though.

A hug--nice...why can't it say "I love you Danielle"???