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SteveChestnut
2005-11-07, 01:24 PM
Hello,

I'd like to see a few buttons off the Inquiry tool pallet on the main DWG TrueView tool pallet. It would be nice for DWG TrueView to be able to view, print and alllow you to be able to take measurements from the drawing.

Thank you
Steve
Mike.Perry
2005-11-07, 01:34 PM
Hi Steve

Thanks for taking the time to post the above.

:beer: Mike
rkmcswain
2005-11-07, 01:59 PM
Hello,

I'd like to see a few buttons off the Inquiry tool pallet on the main DWG TrueView tool pallet. It would be nice for DWG TrueView to be able to view, print and alllow you to be able to take measurements from the drawing.

Thank you
Steve

If they gave us that, we would have no incentive to create a DWF...
Wanderer
2005-11-07, 02:24 PM
If they gave us that, we would have no incentive to create a DWF...imho, dwf and dwg are for two different uses. I want dwg viewer so my in-house guys can look at my drawings, but, I would probably prefer to use dwf to send drawings out of house for review. some people might be making dwf now just so they can measure, but, I can't believe they'd be the majority.

I second the wish to be able to measure in dwg true view, for now, we'll be sticking with the viewer we've been using since '04.
rkmcswain
2005-11-07, 02:53 PM
imho, dwf and dwg are for two different uses. I want dwg viewer so my in-house guys can look at my drawings, but, I would probably prefer to use dwf to send drawings out of house for review. some people might be making dwf now just so they can measure, but, I can't believe they'd be the majority.

I second the wish to be able to measure in dwg true view, for now, we'll be sticking with the viewer we've been using since '04.

I agree completely. But Autodesk wants us to create DWF's...

By allowing measurements in DWF Composer, but not in the DWG viewer, that agenda is assisted.

BTW - what viewer are you using, Bentley View?
Wanderer
2005-11-07, 03:08 PM
I agree completely. But Autodesk wants us to create DWF's...

By allowing measurements in DWF Composer, but not in the DWG viewer, that agenda is assisted.

BTW - what viewer are you using, Bentley View?~nods~ it certainly appears that way, doesn't it?

~nods~ can't argue that.

Yep, using bentley viewer. tried out a few of the other free viewers, that one seemed easiest and allowed the functionality we needed.
rkmcswain
2005-11-07, 03:11 PM
~nods~ it certainly appears that way, doesn't it?

~nods~ can't argue that.

Yep, using bentley viewer. tried out a few of the other free viewers, that one seemed easiest and allowed the functionality we needed.

We tried Bentley View, but our users hated the interface. They are used to AutoCAD. So we are giving them DWG TrueView and they just won't be able to measure.
Wanderer
2005-11-07, 03:18 PM
We tried Bentley View, but our users hated the interface. They are used to AutoCAD. So we are giving them DWG TrueView and they just won't be able to measure.some of our users had been on volo view express, the rest had used autovue... none of them had used acad itself... they all seem to like the interface ok.
lcamara
2005-11-07, 11:21 PM
I have yet to send out any DWFs on request. Our Architects all still request PDFs, or hardcopy. I did send out a few DWFs (in addition to PDFs) when they didn't specify a particular format, but I didn't get any feedback on which one they used. I know that in a few cases our engineers have been getting DWFs (in addition to DWG files) from the Architects, but other than that, I don't see any evidence that DWF has caught on.

Internally, I've been creating DWFs of all our project submittals because you can embed a DWF in a web page (as opposed to a PDF which needs to open into the full window). The only drawback is that the DWF viewer can't measure.

Internally (for our engineers), I'd also like to see a DWG viewer with measuring (and markup) capability. We've got workarounds now, but I'd rather have an Autodesk solution.

For years now, all I've seen from Autodesk in the areas of DWG & DWF have been lame & neutered. And no, I'm not going to spend $200 for a viewer.
Mike.Perry
2005-11-08, 09:25 AM
I'd like to see a few buttons off the Inquiry tool pallet on the main DWG TrueView tool pallet. It would be nice for DWG TrueView to be able to view, print and alllow you to be able to take measurements from the drawing.Hi

Please refer to the following couple of posts for my personal opinion ( thoughts ) on this subject...

RE: DWG TrueView questions

RE: DWG TrueView questions

Have a good one, Mike
robbietillotson
2006-01-17, 09:47 PM
I agree with the first poster. I know that I got the DWF composer in the first place becuase I was told that it had the ability to open DWG files, pan, measure and plot them only ot find out that the DWG viewer is only good for that and doesn't even measure. I have a call into my rep about this.
rkmcswain
2006-01-18, 12:15 AM
I agree with the first poster. I know that I got the DWF composer in the first place becuase I was told that it had the ability to open DWG files, pan, measure and plot them only ot find out that the DWG viewer is only good for that and doesn't even measure.

You were misinfomed...
Next time, ask for a trial copy.
Wanderer
2006-01-18, 04:17 PM
You were misinfomed...
Next time, ask for a trial copy.not that that's a bad idea, but, I think it might be more important to find a reseller who knows their product well enough not to misinform.
rkmcswain
2006-01-18, 04:24 PM
not that that's a bad idea, but, I think it might be more important to find a reseller who knows their product well enough not to misinform.

True. It would be nice if it was in plain english on the website though.



Members of the design review team can view and print the latest DWG files with accuracy and fidelity, and publish the files to the DWF™ to measure and annotate the files with comments and changes.


It should read something like:


Members of the design review team must use the included DWG viewer, or DWG Trueview to view and print the latest DWG files with accuracy and fidelity, and then publish the files to the DWF™ before they are able to measure and annotate the files with comments and changes.
Wanderer
2006-01-18, 06:27 PM
True. It would be nice if it was in plain english on the website though.



It should read something like:sure would.

alright, there you go (http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=1060484)... ;)
rkmcswain
2006-01-18, 08:15 PM
there you go (http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=1060484)...

LOL...
Now THAT suggestion is the one the of the funniest things I have heard in a while...
:-P
kevinelilley99769
2007-10-11, 09:19 PM
Hi
Tricky one this. We produce DWG's but have non CAD people who need to extract info from drawings. They need to measure distance and area and that's about it. Yes, we can create DWF's but it's an extra output everytime and when a design is in progress, it's not always convenient to produce a DWF for internal use.
My feeling is DWF's are great as a view and print facility but maybe , and it's a big maybe, Autodesk should ditch Design Review and add extra functionality to DWG TrueView?
What's your thoughts?
lcamara
2007-10-11, 09:34 PM
Or, hey, how 'bout just combining the two products? and/or letting full AutoCAD become a "viewer" (no save) if it can't find a license (or choose not to set one), similar to how other products work?

DWFs are fine as an alternative to printing submittals, or even check sets, for review, but when you want to just quickly check something on an in-progress set, it falls short.
kevinelilley99769
2007-10-12, 08:44 AM
It's a good thought. I suppose the argument against it would be that a client would have a DWG for viewing and measuring and could open it in AutoCAD and edit the drawing. This is where Design Review helps as it is a read only file. There's definitely room for some streamlining of DWF Viewer, Design Review and DWG TrueView and I really need a measure facility in DWG True View.