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stephen.p.kimber
2006-02-01, 01:20 PM
I have attributes in a block. The attributes do not show up after it is inserted when I change modes.

Can anyone Help?

whdjr
2006-02-01, 01:34 PM
Can you post your block so we can look at it?

stephen.p.kimber
2006-02-01, 01:41 PM
Can you post your block so we can look at it?

am trying but my explorer will not allow the attachment manager popup.
having my it dept look at it

whdjr
2006-02-01, 02:00 PM
While they are looking into it can you describe in depth your block and the trouble you are having with it?

stephen.p.kimber
2006-02-01, 02:19 PM
I have created a dyn. block with 6 attributes in it but only the first shows up when it is inserted into a drawing

whdjr
2006-02-01, 02:27 PM
Are they all set to be visible?
Do you have any visibility states in the DB?

stephen.p.kimber
2006-02-01, 02:31 PM
yes

the atts. are outlined by a line, they show up but the atts. do not

whdjr
2006-02-01, 02:44 PM
Did you put a default value in each of the atts?
After you insert the block, if you edit it with the block editor can you see the atts or their values?

whdjr
2006-02-01, 02:50 PM
Ok, it just dawned on me that you stated "Visibilty Parameter" in your initial question. The visibility toolbar that shows up when you use the Vis Parm has a button to toggle on the hidden objects. If you use this to turn on your other attributes they will show up but will be sort of greyed out. You then need to go to each Vis State and tell it which atts are supposed to be on or off in that state.

stephen.p.kimber
2006-02-01, 02:51 PM
yes i have default valves. Man I wish i could upload the file.

stephen.p.kimber
2006-02-01, 02:53 PM
Ok, it just dawned on me that you stated "Visibilty Parameter" in your initial question. The visibility toolbar that shows up when you use the Vis Parm has a button to toggle on the hidden objects. If you use this to turn on your other attributes they will show up but will be sort of greyed out. You then need to go to each Vis State and tell it which atts are supposed to be on or off in that state.
I have all that set up but they still don't show up. ARRRRRRRRGH. this is so frustrating

Mike.Perry
2006-02-01, 03:01 PM
Hi

See if any of the following threads help shed some light on the issue / problem you are currently experiencing...

Dynamic Blocks with Attributes (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=30158)

Attributes within Dynamic Blocks (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=21015)

Activate an attribute contained in a Dynamic Block (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=30917)

Attributes not reading Visibility states correctly (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=30880)


am trying but my explorer will not allow the attachment manager popup.
having my it dept look at itDo you run a Pop-up or Adblock window utility within your web browser?

If yes, look at adding AUGI.com to your allowable web site list.

Have a good one, Mike

whdjr
2006-02-01, 03:02 PM
I just pm'd you my email if you can use it that way.

stephen.p.kimber
2006-02-01, 03:36 PM
Hi

See if any of the following threads help shed some light on the issue / problem you are currently experiencing...

Dynamic Blocks with Attributes (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=30158)

Attributes within Dynamic Blocks (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=21015)

Activate an attribute contained in a Dynamic Block (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=30917)

Attributes not reading Visibility states correctly (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=30880)

Do you run a Pop-up or Adblock window utility within your web browser?

If yes, look at adding AUGI.com to your allowable web site list.

Have a good one, Mike
iF YOU ONLY KNEW

Mike.Perry
2006-02-01, 04:06 PM
iF YOU ONLY KNEWHi

:confused: Would you care to explain so I may try to understand...

Have a good one, Mike

ps Forum Etiquette (http://forums.augi.com/faq.php?faq=vb_augi#faq_vb_augi_etiquette)
Please do not post thread titles and thread posts using only UPPER case letters. The use of all UPPER case letters in the virtual world is considered rude and a sign of shouting.

stephen.p.kimber
2006-02-01, 05:19 PM
Hi

:confused: Would you care to explain so I may try to understand...

Have a good one, Mike

ps Forum Etiquette (http://forums.augi.com/faq.php?faq=vb_augi#faq_vb_augi_etiquette)
Yes it is.

mike said,
"Do you run a Pop-up or Adblock window utility within your web browser?"


I am behind so many firewalls I am astounded that that i can see this forum.

Mike.Perry
2006-02-01, 05:38 PM
mike said,
"Do you run a Pop-up or Adblock window utility within your web browser?"


I am behind so many firewalls I am astounded that that i can see this forum.Hi Steve

Now I understand, thanks for the explanation... Good luck with getting your IT department to resolve the issue.

Thanks for turning off your Caps Lock :)

:beer: Mike

whdjr
2006-02-01, 05:57 PM
I don't quite understand why yet, but if you lock the position of the attributes then they will show up.

stephen.p.kimber
2006-02-02, 11:46 AM
Thanks Will

Rico
2006-02-03, 06:50 PM
Thanks Will
Here's a simple suggestion:

Make sure that the layer that your block (and subsequently - the attributes) is DRAWN in is not turned off or frozen in modelspace. Remember that the Block Editor is slightly different from Modelspace and so layer status such as freezing may vary slightly between the two - Modelspace and Block Editor.

I say this because I've drawn a block in Layers 1, 2 & 3 (for example) and when I go to insert it, parts of my block do not show up because I've frozen or turned off Layer 1. Needless to say, I've nearly tossed my PC out the window on a couple of occasions. (that wasn't too exagerated was it?) ;)

The easiest thing is to draw your block (all of it) in layer 0. Also, make sure that layer 0 is not frozen or turned off in Modelspace when you insert it.

Let me know if this helps at all.

stephen.p.kimber
2006-02-06, 02:14 PM
Thanks for all the help.

I also have found an Item, The same db I had a problem with visibility. Also would not update in the drawing because I was redefining it. Forgot that Autocad Added the "sync. Att." command.

did it and poof all is well. except that it reset all of the atts. to the default input.