View Full Version : Railing and Baluster frustration!
Shaun v Rooyen
2006-02-07, 12:39 PM
Why on earth is there a setting in the railings edit dia that allows "balusters per tread"
I want "Treads per Baluster"
Is it not easier to setup balusters on lets say every third tread, as well as an offset from the tread edge (the offset is so that the contractor doesn't go and set it too close to the edge and chip the concrete or timber edge).
I find myself having to rather build families to accomplish what should just happen with 2 or 3 parameters.
Wes Macaulay
2006-02-07, 01:31 PM
What I do in your case is break the railing sketch so that at each segment I get a post. Set the railing props to have a "corner" post at each segment end. And then of course you don't need any balusters in the pattern.
Shaun v Rooyen
2006-02-07, 01:54 PM
Ja, Wes.
Hey, how you doin'?
I started doing it like that, then built the family!
But come on man, its a work around to a fairly simple solution. Two little parameters.
One click and its multistory, all with one balustrade.
The issue is, that its seven flights, with 15 little railings and 15 pink little lines per flight, 15 little railings in the schedule per level, now multiply that by 7 flights and by 5 staircases. Thats just bloat! and time consuming.
The fact of the matter is it's now taken me 2 days to sort something out that could've been what....... 2 hours.
Hope you understand my frustration!!!!
Thanks for the reply!
Wes Macaulay
2006-02-07, 01:58 PM
Ah, you're right mate. They OUGHT to have a treads per baluster option. Shall I put it on the wishlist? ;-)
Ah, you're right mate. They OUGHT to have a treads per baluster option. Shall I put it on the wishlist? ;-)
Absolutely and I'm sure that Zeds will agree that we would all be grateful for it.
Rhythmick
2006-02-07, 03:36 PM
I consider Zeds example a post and rail system. Perhaps treads per intermediate post. The ballusters per tread makes more sense to me. Splitting the sketch line takes very little time and works well for custom or equal post placement.
Edit: As far as a wishlist, Intermittent posts would be a nice addition, they could have an option of equal spacing between corners posts within a distance apart range or a set spacing distance. Along with the treads per post.
Steve Hutana
2006-02-08, 12:32 AM
Can I add to this baluster "frust list"
Improved Baluster/railing interface. Presently its like trying to customise your own Yucca in the Revit plant generator!
Shaun v Rooyen
2006-02-08, 08:03 AM
I consider Zeds example a post and rail system. Perhaps treads per intermediate post. The ballusters per tread makes more sense to me. Splitting the sketch line takes very little time and works well for custom or equal post placement.
Edit: As far as a wishlist, Intermittent posts would be a nice addition, they could have an option of equal spacing between corners posts within a distance apart range or a set spacing distance. Along with the treads per post.
Yeh Mike
You are Right the actual terminology of it all sucks,
Balusters per treads (makes sense).
Treads between Posts/Stanchions.
I think that should clear it all up.
Melarch
2006-02-08, 04:59 PM
I recently ran up against some of these same terminology issues (balusters/tread) and such other features/tools/controls in the stair and railing routine. It is very confusing and more so working out specific relationships on custom shape and size stair treads and risers can be a nightmare.
Creating a custom railing should only be required when the components of the railing/balusters/posts and newels are non-standard shapes or materials requiring a special design.
This specific stair used standard newel posts and pickets, but the spacing required using the baluster to create each individual picket in order to get them placed/located on each tread and the starting, intermediate and ending posts required the same customized duplication and locating.
Thank Autodesk Revit for providing these alternative controls, but it would be nice if the check box for stair balusters to tread had a positioning feature control like the center, start and end of each tread with a offset dimension control to move them within each tread.
Mel Persin, AIA
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