accurender 4

[jwilhelm]

Here is an interesting link to a beta version
of Accurender 4, some highlights of things to come to REVIT I suspect
http://www.accurender.com/whatisnew.htm

[beegee]

More likely Viz-Render is to come.

[robmorfin]

I don't think accurender will be updated anymore, here is what I was told by Accurender support: http://www.zoogdesign.com/forums/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3307&highlight=

[MartyC]

Hello

This has to be the most consistently speculated topic on the whole forum. Not once has anyone actually provided a factual and definite confirmation of anything that may change/develop in regard Accurender's inclusion in Revit. I am surprised how many people state emphatically that Viz is to be included as a replacement, as if there is some direct pipeline for this information to the Revit development team and the forward strategy planners at Autodesk.

If someone here does have the accurate and direct, first-hand information, please share it, it would be wonderful to know what is to come.

As far as Revit's Accurender, I am at a bit of a loss as to where it is specifically less of a performer than stand-alone Accurender. From what I can deduce, the interface and functionality has been developed or enhanced to interface with Revit in a specific and simple manner, much simpler than the interface with AutoCad with all its whacky layers etc etc. (consider 'tagging molding and trim' - sounds dumb, in Revit click join geometry and then click objects wherever you like) It appears to me that the Revit version of Accurender has a higher developed interface, correct me if I am wrong.

Revits' Accurender is pretty simple to operate really, not particularly well supported by manuals and tutoriasls, but straight forward with a bit of practice. I am doing some pretty damn cool renderings of my projects, and I dont think I am a rendering genius, and I only started doing renderings after purchasing Revit. Quite honestly though folks, if one needs a rendering beyond the capabilities of Revit's Accurender or ones own capabilities, one would pass the file on to a dedicated presentation rendering company wouldnt one?

Not being a Vis-a-holic I hope Accurender 4 finds its way into Revit, but until then I will keep on doing some pretty cool renderings myself with what I have.

And as for the comment from the support guy at McNeel not knowing what the hell Revit was in Robs thread, he should possibly read their own website, or Accustudio's website etc. If he is that poorly informed, he should probably find another job. I think McNeel's are probably fairly familiar with Revit. I think they probably get a few bucks from Revit for the use of the product...........

Lets have a bit of reality here eh!

CheersM

[beegee]

This has to be the most consistently speculated topic on the whole forum. Not once has anyone actually provided a factual and definite confirmation of anything that may change/develop in regard Accurender's inclusion in Revit. I am surprised how many people state emphatically that Viz is to be included as a replacement, as if there is some direct pipeline for this information to the Revit development team and the forward strategy planners at Autodesk.

Hi Marty,

I think you need to look through the smoke to see the fire. As stated in another topic today, Autodesk Revit are not and will never be, in a position to confirm or deny this sort of speculation. But that doesn't stop us from having fun guessing.


As far as Revit's Accurender, I am at a bit of a loss as to where it is specifically less of a performer than stand-alone Accurender. From what I can deduce, the interface and functionality has been developed or enhanced to interface with Revit in a specific and simple manner, much simpler than the interface with AutoCad with all its whacky layers etc etc. (consider 'tagging molding and trim' - sounds dumb, in Revit click join geometry and then click objects wherever you like) It appears to me that the Revit version of Accurender has a higher developed interface, correct me if I am wrong.


I agree that Revit Accurender is much maligned and quite capable of producing good renderings. From what I have seen, standalone Accurender is much more powerful ( see the list of features I posted recently ) , produces even better photorealistic renderings, but is more difficult to use. Viz Render and Viz are in a similar postion to Revit Accurender and Accurender with respect to production and ease of use. I can't comment on the usuability of standalone Accurender v Viz, or the relative merits of each. But at the end of the day, both are just tools to allow us to communicate better with our clients.
I recently saw a set of very detailed DA plans done by another Architect, using Triforma. I had been asked to review them, because both the client and the Town Planners were having difficulty visualising the proposal. There was no 3D view in the whole package and the elevations were difficult for a lay person to pickup the planes of the buildings. An Accurender or Viz simple 3D shaded view would have saved all parties a lot of heartache in this case. And thats what Revit is all about - better communication / visualisation / understanding. It doesn't really matter whether thats achieved through Viz or Accurender.

I think I'm saying the same thing as you. :oops:

[PeterJ]

I think I'm saying the same thing as you. :oops:

I will be too.....

I think it is a questionable notion that for the larger percentage of Revit users a high end out of the box rendering solution would be a high-priority add-on. Accurender as embedded gives us a good tool and has been improved with that addition of walk throughs etc to a point where most users can do more than they would have been able to do previously.

There are some who do need to produce extremely lifelike renders in house but for them, as for me, the additional cost that having such a tool implemented in Revit would add to their 10 standard seats cannot be that attractive. Surely for them, as for most of us, the number of photo-real renders produced either suggest they ship it out or buy a seat of something more specialised and leave Revit to do what it does well already.

As beegee said Revit is all about better communication/visualisation/understanding. It offers those things as it stands.

[Martin P]

If Revit is going to be developed for years to come it is a fair assumption to make that when Autodesk do eventually look at rendering - it would be most likely to be the recently revived Viz they would want to use, rather than paying for somebody else's product..... its just when the rendering will be looked at, as it is fine at the moment so its not urgent. One day it will begin to look outdated and people will want it replaced and the most likely candidate from Autodesk would be Viz to my mind

[GuyR]

At the end of the day Accurender is just a rendering engine. Just as you can plug in any number of rendering engines to MAX, it would be possible to do the same for Revit.

Apart from specific elements (material mapping etc) it is entirely possible the same GUI we use to set up rendering with Accurender could be used to render to VIZ,MAX,Universe,Accurender, Brazil etc.

The day will come when Accurender will go. But this needn't mean you can't use Accurender as your rendering engine. If they support an API that allows rendering companies access to the camera, light definitions Accurender could produce a plugin. Or if they support .3DS or some of the newer 3D formats then you will be able to export to anything.

My guess is Accurender will be replaced with a MAX/VIZ-lite version and you will get the option of upgrading to the full monty if you wish (and want to spend the $$$). My only hope is they provide a decent exporting format as well.

Guy