lower to UPPERCASE text

[raddis]

Okay, this is probably a silly question, but in ADT I have 3 or 4 routines to convert text from one case to the other.

How do I do this in Revit9?

[Michael Coviello]

You could change the properties of the text to use a font w/ ALL UPPERCASE. Any font can be duplicated and made with all caps using a font editor. There may even be some posted.
I don't know how you could achieve this for individual instances of the text other than retyping.

[Tom Dorner]

You could copy and paste the text out of Revit into Word, change case there then copy paste back into Revit. This would work best on big chucks of text, but not if you have hundreds of pieces of text. The ALL CAPS font would then be a good option.

[SCShell]

You could change the properties of the text to use a font w/ ALL UPPERCASE. Any font can be duplicated and made with all caps using a font editor. There may even be some posted.
I don't know how you could achieve this for individual instances of the text other than retyping.

Hey there,
This is the way to go in my opinion too. I just realized after reading this that I have been doing exactly that since beginning with Revit.
I have my own personal "hand" lettering font which is all Caps. Anytime I substitute standard text with my font, it all gets caps. (Even if the original is mostly lower case)
Good call Michael!
Steve

[Steve_Stafford]

Reid,

In case you haven't figured it out :smile:, the answer is, no tool inside Revit yet. Text is a feature that cries out for attention.

[mmodernc]

Especially since most CAD programs have it-this should have been in V1.
Is there a graphics override filter which allows you to select all lower case text that you can then convert? or ain't that what they's meant for? what about a grammar checker and maybe incorporate MS Word in Revit?

[greg.mcdowell]

I'm just gonna throw my hat in the ring on this one... I've got a slightly different take that I think we, as Architects, should consider.

There's a reason why we use all upper case... it's easier to reproduce a specific "style". Way back before my time (and I'm sure many if not most of you) drafters were required to mimic the lettering style of whomever was in charge... and when we first started using CAD we, somewhat naturally, kept up this same approach (you see this in all new technologies... the first attempts replicate the old).

But there's also a reason we write in mixed case... it's easier to read! Mixing case, along with punctuation, tells the reader when one thought ends and another begins. Why aren't we doing this in our drawings? We do it in our specs don't we? It's not harder to type in mixed case than it is to type in all caps (though you DO have to move your fingers a bit more to grab that shift-key <gasp>).

So, my suggestion is that we should start thinking about they why of things and if they no longer make sense then we should change... and this is just one avenue that I think we could start to head down... but, until I'm in charge of my office I guess I'LL JUST KEEP MY CAPS LOCK DOWN <vbg>

Thanks for listening to my minor rant... please continue with your regularly scheduled broadcast...

[Tom Dorner]

I'm just gonna throw my hat in the ring on this one... I've got a slightly different take that I think we, as Architects, should consider.

There's a reason why we use all upper case... it's easier to reproduce a specific "style". Way back before my time (and I'm sure many if not most of you) drafters were required to mimic the lettering style of whomever was in charge... and when we first started using CAD we, somewhat naturally, kept up this same approach (you see this in all new technologies... the first attempts replicate the old).

But there's also a reason we write in mixed case... it's easier to read! Mixing case, along with punctuation, tells the reader when one thought ends and another begins. Why aren't we doing this in our drawings? We do it in our specs don't we? It's not harder to type in mixed case than it is to type in all caps (though you DO have to move your fingers a bit more to grab that shift-key <gasp>).

So, my suggestion is that we should start thinking about they why of things and if they no longer make sense then we should change... and this is just one avenue that I think we could start to head down... but, until I'm in charge of my office I guess I'LL JUST KEEP MY CAPS LOCK DOWN <vbg>

Thanks for listening to my minor rant... please continue with your regularly scheduled broadcast...There was a post in the CAD Standards forum I chimed in on and was chided for my crazy belief that sentence case is the way to go for all the reasons you point out.

http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=35882&highlight=caps

Of course I take any criticism from CAD people with a grain of salt since they are oblivious to the fact us Reviteers are about to put them out of business (at least for architecture).

[rdaniel]

So, how do you change a font style to all Caps? Does this require a special program outside of Windows Font Editor?

[Michael Coviello]

I use a free evaluation of high logic "font creator"
open the .ttf using this program, you can cut/paste all of the lowercase and replace them with the upper case ones.
You can also make special characters if you want to.
When you are finished you can distribute to the users with INF-TOOL or do it manually

[ford347]

You could copy and paste the text out of Revit into Word, change case there then copy paste back into Revit. This would work best on big chucks of text, but not if you have hundreds of pieces of text. The ALL CAPS font would then be a good option.
You actually cannot do this, unless I'm doing something wrong of course. I know this because I just tried to do it for a bunch of my general notes and I just tried it again to no avail. Type some lower case text in Revit, I'm using Arial, then paste that into word, highlight the text, open up the font editor, change the text to 'All Caps' and paste back into Revit, it will remain lower case. I'm not sure why, but it would be nice if it worked or if I were doing something wrong as I have quite a few notes I'd like to update without re-typing! Although the new font with all caps idea is great. I'll have to look into a font editor.

Josh

[Joef]

I placed some text in Revit, copied into word, used Format - Change Case- copied to clipboard - pasted into Revit. Worked fine.

[ford347]

Maybe walk through your steps. It is not working for me. I copy from revit, paste in word, then highlight text, click format, font, then click all caps, and it changes fine in word. Then I highlight text in word, then paste into revit and it remains lower case?


Josh

[ford347]

Sweet. So I just tried again, and instead of using the font dialog to change the case, I noticed that under the format menu there is a change case option, so I used that and it worked fine. I didn't know that was there, I've just always used the font dialog. I wonder what the diff. is and why it doesn't work when pasting back into revit. Well at least I can do it!


Josh

[cganiere]

MS Word uses a formatting code to change text to all caps. Just like any other formatting code (bold, font, point size...). So when you cut & paste to other applications the text will revert to what it was before the all caps code was applied. When AutoCAD switches text to all caps or all lower case, it actually changes the ASCII to upper/lower case.

cganiere

[truevis]

Clipboard Help+Spell (http://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Mouser/clipboardhelpandspell/index.html) is a text-based clipboard utility. You copy the text to clipboard and you can set it to change it to uppercase (right-click its tray icon) and attempt to paste back.

[Adam Mac]

Yeah - there's a lot of great workarounds here......... but that's just what they are - workarounds. Could we not just have the ability to do it wthin the program itself?
Please?
;)

[rdaniel]

Yeah - there's a lot of great workarounds here......... but that's just what they are - workarounds. Could we not just have the ability to do it wthin the program itself?
Please?
;)


Amen to that!

[ajayholland]

I’m with Greg. Sentence case is easier to read.

Why should we try to make Revit mimic CAD, which in turn mimicked hand drafting? Like the symbols in a Keynote list, perhaps it is time to let go!

~AJH

[Wesley]

I'm with both Greg and Ajay on this one - and because I am the boss, all our drawings go out with sentence case. Ahh, the joy!

Wes

[patricks]

I prefer upper case for details. Why? Because we're not reading sentences with periods or question marks, we're reading notes on details that call out different materials. If you try to use sentence case, then there is confusion about what words should be capitalized and what shouldn't. Should certain names of materials be capitalized? Material brand names? The first letter of the first word of each note only?

I can't stand reading a paragraph of text that is all caps, but for detail noting, I still think all caps is best.